Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pyra]

Samus can't fly and if Ridley wants to go forward with up b, he dips downwards meaning if you can't B reverse consistently, you're dipping under the stage and dying a lot

probably why samus keeps kicking his ass tbh
learn to fly dipwad ridley

If you have no fear you should consider holding your head

Pffft. This proooobably seems crazy... Crazy...

But that's just a theory.
A GRAVEYARD theory.
Thanks for watching.

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley's looking pretty bad. Eh, I'm a casual so I won't ca-
*Ridley up b is in fact still only 4 directions*
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Did people really think that was a glitch in the E3 build?

Samus can't fly and if Ridley wants to go forward with up b, he dips downwards meaning if you can't B reverse consistently, you're dipping under the stage and dying a lot

The height loss is minimal but I do agree it's really stupid the forward version is angled dowm while the backwards is angled up.
But I'm expecting Ridley to turn out better than people see him. His specials are just really strong, he has the best command grab in the game that just gives you stage control instantly, a beefed up version of Mario's Fireballs which means it's great for edgegurading and a move that deals 50% damage that is gonna ne scary once people find setups for it.

 

[Moydow]

wait

> Maya Fey's voice actor is singing the game's theme tune
> Maya is a spirit medium
> Ultimate introduces a game mode called "Spirits"

Phoenix Wright/Maya Fey DLC confirmed, get hype ****ers

I'm probably 75 pages late for this but who cares, I'm not reading the whole thread just to see if someone beat me to my ****post

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Did people really think that was a glitch in the E3 build?

The height loss is minimal but I do agree it's really stupid the forward version is angled dowm while the backwards is angled up.
But I'm expecting Ridley to turn out better than people see him. His specials are just really strong, he has the best command grab in the game that just gives you stage control instantly, a beefed up version of Mario's Fireballs which means it's great for edgegurading and a move that deals 50% damage that is gonna ne scary once people find setups for it.

THERE WAS HOPE DAMMIT

Honestly, people playing Ridley don't have the best impressions right now as his combos stop working at mid percentages and he's apparently lighter than Lucario. His Nair is godlike though

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Imagine your castle not being a stage in Smash.

This post was made by Dracula Gang.

 

[Pyra]

Every time I see or hear about Inklings it makes me more hype and currently I'm at rather unhealthy levels of hype

 

[praline]

THERE WAS HOPE DAMMIT

Honestly, people playing Ridley don't have the best impressions right now as his combos stop working at mid percentages and he's apparently lighter than Lucario. His Nair is godlike though

Ridley is lighter than Lucario? What.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ridley is lighter than Lucario? What.

tbf it was a common balance suggestion as Ridley is a crawny ************

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Do we have a list of weight for Ultimate yet? I am a real sucker for a list of numbers.

 

[Zinith]

Wait, Ridley is both lightweight AND combo food?

Oh boy, Yoshi sends his condolences...

 

[Pyra]

Ridley is lighter than Lucario? What.

He's large when you look at him but he's also kinda scrawny. Well, not just KINDA scrawny. He's so thin that I don't think any amount of muscle he does have would make him heavy unless it happened to be ultra dense

Look at dat rib cage

I'd say it's also cause he flies with those thin wings and that but Charazard is staring at me angrily while typing this.

He's made out of space pirate dragon too, someone do a material analysis of that

 

[praline]

He's large when you look at him but he's also kinda scrawny. Well, not just KINDA scrawny. He's so thin that I don't think any amount of muscle he does have would make him heavy unless it happened to be ultra dense

Look at dat rib cage

I'd say it's also cause he flies with those thin wings and that but Charazard is staring at me angrily while typing this.

He's made out of space pirate dragon too, someone do a material analysis of that

Yeah I forgot about that lol

 

[dezeray112]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

I'll start (only doing the ones I have answers for though) :
- City Trial (Air Ride)
- Minish Woods
- A Dr. Mario stage (Duh)
- Saturn Valley
- Tazmily Village
- Phendrana Drifts (so we'd have a non-lava Metroid stage)
- Central Highway
- Mother Base
- Scrap Brain Zone
- A ROB "Stack-Up" stage (just so he could have his own stage)

Sounds like fun! Anyways here is my list:

- Bowser's Castle - Super Mario 64
- Sacred Grove - Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
- Final Battle Vs Champion - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
- Escape from the City - Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
- Wir Fliegen - Xenoblade Chronicles X
- Volcanic Rim Stage - Street Fighter IV
- Acid Man Theme - Megaman 11
- J-E-N-O-V-A - Final Fantasy VII
- Lightning Theme - F-Zero Climax

 

[Deleted member]

he's apparently lighter than Lucario.

he's WHAT

Sounds like fun! Anyways here is my list:

- Bowser's Castle - Super Mario 64
- Sacred Grove - Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
- Final Battle Vs Champion - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
- Escape from the City - Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
- Wir Fliegen - Xenoblade Chronicles X
- Volcanic Rim Stage - Street Fighter IV
- Acid Man Theme - Megaman 11
- J-E-N-O-V-A - Final Fantasy VII
- Lightning Theme - F-Zero Climax

I've also always wanted to fight on top of music tracks

 

[Deleted member]

Scrooge McDuck is the absolute best Disney rep they could have tbh. One of his victory animations better be him swimming in the money bin.

Mickey or riot

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

I'll start (only doing the ones I have answers for though) :
- City Trial (Air Ride)
- Minish Woods
- A Dr. Mario stage (Duh)
- Saturn Valley
- Tazmily Village
- Phendrana Drifts (so we'd have a non-lava Metroid stage)
- Central Highway
- Mother Base
- Scrap Brain Zone
- A ROB "Stack-Up" stage (just so he could have his own stage)

- Shiver Star Factory (Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards)
- Old Man's Hideout (The Legend of Zelda)
- Mario Clash (Mario Clash)
- Aether Paradise (Pokemon Sun & Moon)
-Metal Man's Stage (Mega Man 2)
-City Escape (Sonic Adventure 2)
-Any Wario Land Stage (Wario Land)
-Arrum Base (Kid Icarus: Uprising)

 

[Dyllybirdy]

- Old Man's Hideout (The Legend of Zelda)

Wow, well that's a very odd choice.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

I'll start (only doing the ones I have answers for though) :
- City Trial (Air Ride)
- Minish Woods
- A Dr. Mario stage (Duh)
- Saturn Valley
- Tazmily Village
- Phendrana Drifts (so we'd have a non-lava Metroid stage)
- Central Highway
- Mother Base
- Scrap Brain Zone
- A ROB "Stack-Up" stage (just so he could have his own stage)

Piranha Plant Pipeway (MK7)
Phendrana Drifts, Torvus Bog, Skytown
Phaaze
Bowser’s Castle (obvious but come on)
The Dragon’s Table
Crisis City, City Escape, World Adventure (Unleashed travelling stage), Death Egg, Radical Highway, Aquarium Park, Eggmanland, etc.
Mor Ardain, Mechonis Field

THERE WAS HOPE DAMMIT

Honestly, people playing Ridley don't have the best impressions right now as his combos stop working at mid percentages and he's apparently lighter than Lucario. His Nair is godlike though

Somehow I knew this would happen. I can understand why they’d make him light, given that he’s actually scrawny and not actually large like the Kremling King, but you can’t make a character light AND give them a large hurtbox at the same time.

Honestly what worries me more is Ridley getting edgeguarded hard by the Sword Gang (especially Marth) given his meh recovery despite him having WINGS TO FLY WITH.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh I see this bandwagon about stages
The opening act from Bayonetta 2
Kefka's Tower
Any of the factory levels from Returns
Jambastion
Bowser's Castle
Tower of Duma, the final map version of Echoes
Central Highway
Alola Region, a traveling stages across the islands
BSL
Mystery Manor
The Rectum in MGS2 (Where you fight 3 Metal Gear Rays)
City Escape

 

[Flyboy]

Another acceptable Sonic stage would be Studiopolis Zone.

If Eggman was added I'd love the Flying Battery or Sonic 3's Death Egg.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Wow, well that's a very odd choice.

We don't really have a stage based on the original Zelda yet

One of the gimmicks would be the Old Man giving away an elusive sword, saying "It's dangerous to go alone"
You better be the first to grab it...

 

[Deleted member]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

I'll start (only doing the ones I have answers for though) :
- City Trial (Air Ride)
- Minish Woods
- A Dr. Mario stage (Duh)
- Saturn Valley
- Tazmily Village
- Phendrana Drifts (so we'd have a non-lava Metroid stage)
- Central Highway
- Mother Base
- Scrap Brain Zone
- A ROB "Stack-Up" stage (just so he could have his own stage)

- Mt. Dedede
- Flat Zone 3 (seriously, there are so many unrepresented Game and Watch games)
- Bowser's Castle
- Crafted World
- Same as you
- Miitopia Stage
- Battle Royal Dome
- BRING BACK POKE FLOATS
- BRING BACK PAC-MAZE
- BRING BACK RAINBOW ROAD

 

[Moydow]

Too lazy to think about other series so I'll just do a Fire Emblem stage: The bridge over the Great River of Thracia

Every 10 seconds Reinhardt appears, yells "MAGIC IS EVERYTHING", and instantly KOs a random player with two blasts of Dire Thunder

also Saias and his 10 authority stars mean you can't do anything to stop Reinhardt, only accept that magic truly is everything as you get zapped to death over and over again

 

[Pyra]

Every 10 seconds Reinhardt appears, yells "MAGIC IS EVERYTHING"

Tell you what, I've been playing a whole lot of Overwatch recently and this was significantly more entertaining to me than you probably intended.

 

[Deleted member]

- Mt. Dedede
- Flat Zone 3 (seriously, there are so many unrepresented Game and Watch games)
- Bowser's Castle
- Crafted World
- Stack-Up Stage
- Miitopia Stage
- Battle Royal Dome
- BRING BACK POKE FLOATS
- BRING BACK PAC-MAZE
- BRING BACK RAINBOW ROAD

ADDING MORE BECAUSE I FORGOT SOME
- BRING BACK WOOLLY WORLD
- Any area from Sonic Colors
- Dr. Mario Stage
- Striker Arena
- Give us a Poke Floats 2 while you're at it
- A Gangplank Galleon Stage

 

[Moydow]

Tell you what, I've been playing a whole lot of Overwatch recently and this was significantly more entertaining to me than you probably intended.

Meanwhile I've never played Overwatch and always forget it also has a character called Reinhardt. I swear that guy exists solely to ruin (or in this case augment, I guess) my Fire Emblem ****posts.

 

[GoeGoe]

Scrooge McDuck is the absolute best Disney rep they could have tbh. One of his victory animations better be him swimming in the money bin.

Although Smash is game originated charcaters specific, I don't mind this exception at all X)

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Tell you what, I've been playing a whole lot of Overwatch recently and this was significantly more entertaining to me than you probably intended.

CATCHPHARSE. How many people here even play Overwatch I wonder.

 

[Flyboy]

CATCHPHARSE. How many people here even play Overwatch I wonder.

I used to. I fell off around the original Junkenstein's Revenge because it lost a lot of its magic for me. It doesn't help the big reason I enjoyed it - lore - has been, uh, weak. But man, the beta and that first year? Amazing.

I absolutely love Tracer though still. Great character. Loved her from the moment she showed up in the announcement trailer.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

CATCHPHARSE. How many people here even play Overwatch I wonder.

I've never had any interest in playing it...

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

I'll start (only doing the ones I have answers for though) :
- City Trial (Air Ride)
- Minish Woods
- A Dr. Mario stage (Duh)
- Saturn Valley
- Tazmily Village
- Phendrana Drifts (so we'd have a non-lava Metroid stage)
- Central Highway
- Mother Base
- Scrap Brain Zone
- A ROB "Stack-Up" stage (just so he could have his own stage)

Krazy Kremland
Bowser's castle
Pac Maze
Wario Land stage
Studiopolis
Macbeth
New York(Ken's 3rd Strike stage)

 

[Pyra]

I used to. I fell off around the original Junkenstein's Revenge because it lost a lot of its magic for me. It doesn't help the big reason I enjoyed it - lore - has been, uh, weak. But man, the beta and that first year? Amazing.

I absolutely love Tracer though still. Great character. Loved her from the moment she showed up in the announcement trailer.

I've never had any interest in playing it...

I play it in bursts and it ruins my life every time.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

It doesn't help the big reason I enjoyed it - lore - has been, uh, weak.

Hahaha, very true. It was so weak that the subreddit started making some silly ****post about it.

Spoiler: ****post

Micheal Chu has emerged from the deep depths of blizzard HQ in order to deliver lore, as Jeff coaxes him out with the bread crumbs in his open palms. Everyone in the office lets out a choking gasp, as the spectacle of a lore delivery is something of legend around the office. Children are born, grow old, and pass away in the time between lore mentionings, so they are something to be cherished. Today, Micheal Chu has unexpectedly emerged from the trapdoor in the middle of the office. His pants are old, and tattered, and the dva shirt hanging loosely off his body is faded, and dirty. The once vibrant, pink punchy colors have gone almost gray. He makes his way across the carpeted floor, keeping low to the ground, his legs bent, and his nails scraping the ground as he drags them.

He gets to the middle of the office. He sloppily eats the crumbs, then goes back to sniff Jeff’s palm, making sure he got all of them. Everyone in the office can feel the swarm of butterflies ready to erupt from their stomach, a cocoon of excitement. Will we hear something about Zennyatta? Or Lucio? Maybe he will reverse the retcon on DVA, or even move the story forward!

Chu opens his mouth, and lets out a raspy breath. “Torb... Torbjorn... can switch out his arms... for different ones...” Jeff steps forward, revealing the shackle he kept hidden behind his back. This time he would keep Chu in the office, and lore would be plentiful.

But Chu is cunning. He lets out a sharp Hisssss and scrambles for the trapdoor in the carpet, like a frightened dog. The sound of his nails scraping the floor is punctuated by the deep booming voice of Jeff “you’re not getting away this time!”

Chu was moving fast. He yelled “speed boost! Lets move it people!” As he ran. Just as Jeff was about to grab his thin ankles, he tumbled to the trapdoor and yanked it open, sliding into the hole in the ground like a well lubed rodent. Jeff screamed down into the hole. Promises of bread crumbs, and belly rubs, and scratches behind the ear, but all that answered back was

“THERES ALWAYS LORE NEXT YEAR!”

I've never had any interest in playing it...

That's fair. Not everyone is a big PC/shooter fan. Would recommend it, but Ultimate is coming out so...

I play it in bursts and it ruins my life every time.

What are you talking about, having 5 insta-lock DPS on your team isn't that bad, it is actually meta.

 

[Pyra]

What are you talking about, having 5 insta-lock DPS on your team isn't that bad, it is actually meta.

I don't particularly care about winning or losing cause my team makes their own decisions, I care about how much in their own ass a lot of the playerbase is.

But that's the case for everything.


*stares at Smash Bros*

 

[Flyboy]

For all my complicated feelings about Overwatch I can't deny that Tracer would be a hoot and a half to play in Smash.

 

[Zinith]

Haven't played Overwatch. Is there any reptile characters to play?

I know Paladins does...

 

[AIM0001]

This is a fun question, though I'll only add ones I have any real experience with:

: Bowser's Castle
: Hyrule Castle
: Any level based on the factory theme
: Jambandra Base
: Aether Foundation
: Phendrana Drifts
: Chaos Vortex
: Spawning Grounds
: Tantal


: Icicle Mountain

Bowser Castle
Gangplank Galleon/Croc Ship from DKC2
Pac-Maze 2
Lorule (A tour around Lorule leading to Lorule castle.)
Luigi’s Mansion 2 (Featuring a cameo by Professor E Gad and King Boo if he’s not going to be in as DLC.)
Anything from Star Allies!
Wario Ware stage (Something that travels to Jimmy T., 9 Volt, and Ashley’s Castle.)
Moonside or Cave Of The Past oooor Runaway Five Tour bus stage that travels to different area from Mother 2.)
Studiopolis
Central Highway or Wily Castle 2 without Yellow Devil!
Mario Party stage (Like how hasn’t this happend yet?)
Rainbow Road Ultimate (A better Rainbow Road stage than the 3DS one with fantastic visuals and colors everywhere!)
Area Omega from Star Fox Zero.

 

[Deleted member]

For all my complicated feelings about Overwatch I can't deny that Tracer would be a hoot and a half to play in Smash.

Ikr?! She'd be a much better idea for a Modern Western rep than... (shudders) Steve...

 

[Pyra]

Haven't played Overwatch. Is there any reptile characters to play?

I know Paladins does...

Not yet.

There's a gorilla and a hamster though.

And two of the characters have magic dragon tattoos.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Haven't played Overwatch. Is there any reptile characters to play?

I know Paladins does...

Symmetra has a Dragon skin, but not true reptile. We do have a hamster.