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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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GoeGoe

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So I thought we Goemon fans are beyond disappointment, we got so used to being disappointed it doesn't affect us really.. and then someone had to suggest Mii
So with Spirits being revealed tomorrow. Who you guys hoping for bosses?
Definitely none other than.. Dr. Wily

Goemon bosses are just too much for Smash.. as most won't understand what are they XD
 
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Link disguised as Shantae! :chuckle: Make sense after all he's the real 'belle' of the roster:



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I can't keep up either, the hype is real!
I don't know...

I'm not feeling very well today, and I don't think that Direct will help for a while, even when I see it later.
 

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given how well sakurai seems to know his fans, i think he knows that incineroar and ken being the last 2 fighters would really crush expectations, so if it is misinformation (i definitely think it is) sakurai definitely knows that incineroar and ken couldnt outweigh the grinch leak, save for a small subset of fans
Don't forget, however, that Ken and Incineroar DO have fans. Some very vocal ones on this forum, even.

And also don't forget that the final reveals for Brawl and Smash 4 were Olimar and Shulk, respectively. These were in the same games where Snake, Sonic, Lucario (Brawl), Pac-Man, Mega Man and Villager (For) starred as newcomers. They haven't exactly saved the best for last in any of their previous games.
 
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That was Vergben #3. He has some... issues (let's not even talk about Vergeben #5).
Honestly, he's a prima donna who thinks he's a rock star because a few of his suggestions got true. And, a lot of these leakers have been running scared ever since the Grinch Leak happened (I'm still supporting the Banner, and will believe it will come to fruition). Speaking of which... here's another in its favor (though this is just me randomly guessing)... since the Direct is tomorrow, does this mean that Nintendo started commissioning companies to create merchandise of the completed roster ahead of time, knowing it was going to be revealed in full eventually so they could start hyping everybody before December's release?
 

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So with Spirits being revealed tomorrow. Who you guys hoping for bosses?

For me its

-Deathborn
-Dr. Eggman
-Exor
-General Scales w/ King RedEye
-Hades
-Kanden, Noxus, Spire, Sylux, Trace and Weavel
-King Boo
-Marx
-Metal Gear REX
-Necrozama
Broodles
Tiki Tong or Lord Fredrick
Gaurdian or Ganon Blight
Giant Chicken form Mother Brain
Raphael Raven
Magalor
Andross
Necrozma
Gygas or Porky
Medeus
Hades
Dr. Egg man & Dr. Wily team battle
Plasm Wraith
King Hippo
Metal Face
Ifrit (I love Ifrit so much)
Jubileas
DJ Octavio

Bring on all the bosses!
 

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Not making a direct-based bingo card. Just one on characters I think are most likely.
View attachment 174175
Of course, this is a bit of an old bingo card in case Isabelle doesn't give it away.
Anyone with PS skills wanna try to replace Don-Chan with my girl Elma? Too tired to be at a computer rn
 

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Don't forget, however, that Ken and Incineroar DO have fans. Some very vocal ones on this forum, even.

And also don't forget that the final reveals for Brawl and Smash 4 were Olimar and Shulk, respectively. These were in the same games where Snake, Sonic, Lucario (Brawl), Pac-Man, Mega Man and Villager (For) starred as newcomers. They haven't exactly saved the best for last in any of their previous games.
i mean, this is super smash brothers *ultimate*. i disagree with shulk not being hype, but even then, why wouldnt sakurai want to go out with the best for last for the ultimate smash brothers game?
 

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I wonder how many people forget that Undertale mentioned memes/jokes at the time. No surprise its sequel did too.

Not that I wouldn't love content from such a cool game, but it means nothing.
I'd have this opinion too, especially with how much Toby likes to make jokes and play around with fans.

But with Shovel Knight in as an AT I don't think Undertale content is an impossibility. Granted Yacht Club is already very close with Nintendo, more so than Toby for sure, but Toby and Nintendo have also had their positive interactions in the past.

I wouldn't be too shocked if it happened is all I'm saying.
 

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Alright, in going trick or treating soon, might not be back in the thread until tomorrow a few hours before the sun known as the direct. See ya guys.


(God no matter how hard I try I cant leave, I need to know if the grinch leak is alive and this is the best place. So I'll be back)
 

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THINGS. JUST. GOT. INTERESTING.

I NEVER knew about this! I can't believe that they used Rayman as a fake name to fake out leakers back in the Smash 4 days.

Man, yeah I can't not see them baiting out insiders at that point.
Oh they've definitely baited out insiders. That's the sort of thing that Nintendo would probably do. The question is how much of that bait ever got outside of Nintendo? It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo attempted to catfish people they suspected to be leakers, posing as randos online to see if they'll leak.
 

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Guys I just saw master chief.

He seemed like the real deal and told me he’s in
 

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as we lean closer i just need to say something:

i still believe in the grinch leak
in jazz band today we played the grinch for holiday music. i think our band director knows something we dont /s

we also played spain by chic corea for the end of the year piece. that song is ****in' hard
 

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Alright, here's my Smash bingo card. Though it's a bit unconventional. I'm so confident in my prediction the whole card is a free space.
And that prediction is...

The final Smash bingo card...until dlc.png
 

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So I thought we Goemon fans are beyond disappointment, we got so used to being disappointed it doesn't affect us really.. and then someone had to suggest Mii

Definitely none other than.. Dr. Wily

Goemon bosses are just too much for Smash.. as most won't understand what are they XD
I sorta doubt it, considering we got Bismaru on the 64 days, even though the third SFC installment was never brought over.
 

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So with Spirits being revealed tomorrow. Who you guys hoping for bosses?

For me its

-Deathborn
-Dr. Eggman
-Exor
-General Scales w/ King RedEye
-Hades
-Kanden, Noxus, Spire, Sylux, Trace and Weavel
-King Boo
-Marx
-Metal Gear REX
-Necrozama
i think i would ****ing die if there was a spirits boss on top of outer haven
 

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Not making a direct-based bingo card. Just one on characters I think are most likely.

Of course, this is a bit of an old bingo card in case Isabelle doesn't give it away.
A drum is more likely than Goemon :( *sniff*
 

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Honestly, he's a prima donna who thinks he's a rock star because a few of his suggestions got true. And, a lot of these leakers have been running scared ever since the Grinch Leak happened (I'm still supporting the Banner, and will believe it will come to fruition). Speaking of which... here's another in its favor (though this is just me randomly guessing)... since the Direct is tomorrow, does this mean that Nintendo started commissioning companies to create merchandise of the completed roster ahead of time, knowing it was going to be revealed in full eventually so they could start hyping everybody before December's release?
Oh, I was just taking a cheap shot at Verge. :chuckle: I've said it since August--he's been right, but also an asshole. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

And I still think the banner's likely true--my odds are still at 75%. My guess if the banner is true--the banner was made for hangers/lighting fixtures for events after tomorrow's Smash Direct. It's why it doesn't include Incineroar--he could be revealed in the other rumored Nintendo Direct. And a lot of the consensus as well as contradiction between insiders could be a result of naming playable characters as assist trophies, so that if a leak like this were to ever happen, it would immediately cast doubt. The one thing that makes me think it could potentially not be the case now is I assume the media insiders have gotten the press materials by now. Could be wrong, I don't know the logistics of gaming media. All I know is once we see the character art, or if a non-banner character is revealed, we'll know right away whether it was true or not.
 

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From the info we have, it’s looking like a yes. And we know how much Sakurai hates leaks so it’s possible
Sakurai/Nintendo: Hey insiders, here is information about Incineroar being playable.
Insiders: Hey, thanks! *takes it and leaves*
Sakurai/Nintendo: *smirks* Heh heh, suckers.

That is what I am imagining right there.
 

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I'd have this opinion too, especially with how much Toby likes to make jokes and play around with fans.

But with Shovel Knight in as an AT I don't think Undertale content is an impossibility. Granted Yacht Club is already very close with Nintendo, more so than Toby for sure, but Toby and Nintendo have also had their positive interactions in the past.

I wouldn't be too shocked if it happened is all I'm saying.
Considering how much the game is against actual fighting, I could see Trophies being the most logical option outside of music. For IP holders, wanting their content represented a specific way is pretty important. And respectable. It's their content. They have a right to care how it's done.

Not that all do(ZUN more or less doesn't care about how Touhou is done, as long as it isn't used for money. Fanworks, art, etc.)
 

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i mean, this is super smash brothers *ultimate*. i disagree with shulk not being hype, but even then, why wouldnt sakurai want to go out with the best for last for the ultimate smash brothers game?
I'm not saying he wouldn't, I'm saying there's no precedent. Sakurai isn't the marketing team. I'm sure he gets final say on almost everything, but Nintendo's marketing team most likely decides things like Direct dates and when to send out certain information, and from a marketer's perspective, it's typically a very dumb idea to save your ace in the hole for a mere month before the game releases. This speculation cycle is different from previous ones, though, because we didn't even know about the game until six months before release, so they could be doing things differently than in games past.

Regarding Shulk, I'm aware that people who knew what Xenoblade was were excited he was in. People were also excited for Pikmin representation. But I'm comparing Shulk's reveal to goddamn Mega Man, or Pac-Man, or the Animal Crossing Villager, who had easily one of the biggest fanbases in the build up to Smash 4. Any way you slice it, they weren't saving the very best for the very last.
 
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