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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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NintenZ

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Oh wow speak of the devil I found this thread that I made in my latest hunt
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/422619382
My gruncle works for Nintendo and he told me Boshi is gonna be in the Samsh Bros game. He's an Echo of Yoshi.

Believe me guys this is real.

I totally didn't make this. Nope. Definitely not.
I actually believe this leak, it’s really convincing, professional, and actually thought provoking, and I recommend everyone and their mother give it the time of day. It makes the ESRB Leak look like it was fake and is truly the pinnacle of perfection.

okay but seriously guys we really need to stop giving into these fake 4Chan leaks because this is getting ridiculous.
 

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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:

Mario:
Yoshi:
Wario:
Donkey Kong:
Zelda:
Metroid:
Fire Emblem:
Kirby:
Star Fox:
Pokémon:
F-Zero:
Earthbound:
Pikmin:
Kid Icarus:
Animal Crossing:
Punch Out!:
Xenoblade:
Splatoon:
Retro:
Other:
SEGA:
Capcom:
Namco:
Square Enix:
Konami:

For me I’d do this:
Mario: Captain Toad
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Tetra
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Lyndis
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Slippy or Krystal
Pokémon: Zoroark
F-Zero: Jody Summer
Earthbound: Kumatora
Pikmin: Alph
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook or Isabelle
Punch Out!: Doc Lois
Xenoblade: Fiora
Splatoon: Octolings
Retro: Takamaru
Other: Chorus Kids
SEGA: Arle Nadja
Capcom: Chun-Li
Namco: Lloyd
Square Enix: Geno
Konami: Bomberman
Mario: Captain Toad
Yoshi: BOSHI!!!
Wario: 9-Volt
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool
Zelda: Skull Kid
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Hector
Kirby: Bandanna Dee
Star Fox: Slippy
Pokémon: Sceptile
F-Zero: Pico
Earthbound: Ninten
Pikmin: Brittany
Kid Icarus: Hades
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Punch Out!: Soda Popinski
Xenoblade: Elma
Splatoon: Octoling
Retro: Mach Rider
Other: Isaac
SEGA: Alex Kidd
Capcom: Leon Kennedy
Namco: Lloyd
Square Enix: Eight
Konami: Simon

Zinith, what are your thoughts on this?
It says Boshi, so it must be true!!!
 

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Yeah, um about that. I wouldn't recommend scrolling down past the first few pictures...
Too late.

It wasn’t too bad because I’m used to what the internet has to dish out in all honesty. Compared to that it’s tame.
 

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So I made a thread for this question but it looks like nobody replied and I can’t trash it (on mobile at least). But does anyone have any idea on how we might be able to get 8 player smash to work with just one system? I was thinking of something along the lines of 4 pro controllers + 4 GameCube controllers, or potentially (according to some) a set of two GameCube adapters work with the system so that would allow for 7 GameCube controllers and one pro controller for functionality. I know most games that people have used only cap at about 4 per system, though I expect Smash to be different cuz Smash. The FAQ that Nintendo states about wireless controllers specifically capping at 8 (in reference to the joycons as they work individually but count together) so technically should be capped at 4 with pro controllers. Any thoughts and advice on this topic would be much appreciated since I’d really like to get a full setup ready to go for parties and events to include as many players as possible that everyone who wants to play can have fun.
 

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Including deconfirmed because this was originally created on a doscord server and it had a notification on the fact that they're aloud.
Mario: Mouser (perfect Bomberman Echo)
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: K Rool
The Legend of Zelda: Groose
Metroid: Kraid
Kirby: Marx OFC
Star Fox: Peppy
Pokémon: Krookodile (prefer Incineroar but Krookodile is just too darn badass)
F-Zero: Pico (i like turtles)
EarthBound: Kumatora
Pikmin: Louie
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: K K Slider
Punch-Out!!: Doc Louis
Xenoblade: Elma
Splatoon: DJ Octavio
Retro: Foreman Spike
Other: Fossil Fighter
Sega: Fang the Sniper (seriously)
Capcom: Bass
Namco: Agumon
Square Enix: Geno (yes i'm putting him here)
Konami: Bomberman
 
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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:

Mario:
Yoshi:
Wario:
Donkey Kong:
Zelda:
Metroid:
Fire Emblem:
Kirby:
Star Fox:
Pokémon:
F-Zero:
Earthbound:
Pikmin:
Kid Icarus:
Animal Crossing:
Punch Out!:
Xenoblade:
Splatoon:
Retro:
Other:
SEGA:
Capcom:
Namco:
Square Enix:
Konami:
I'll take most wanted over most likely any day.

Mario: Waluigi
Yoshi: Baby Mario
Wario: Mona
Donkey Kong: K. Rool
Zelda: Urbosa
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Anna
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Pigma
Pokémon: Meowth
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh
Earthbound: Masked Man
Pikmin: Louie/President
Kid Icarus: Magnus
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Punch Out!: Mike Tyson
Xenoblade: Metal Face
Splatoon: ??? Octolings I suppose, though based solely on character Annie and Moe?
Retro: Lip
Other: Sami (Advance Wars)
SEGA: Aiai
Capcom: Amaterasu
Namco: KOS-MOS
Square Enix: Sephiroth
Konami: Frogger

Also this was on my backburner but if we're talking reboot rosters? I've got one, though it wasn't suited for Melee's 20-some character roster. There's some regrettable cuts to some of my fav characters like Falcon and Ness, but I tried to focus the scope to the best representation of Nintendo's current all stars (more or less)

Third Roster.png

Basically there's a max for three characters per franchise (counting Mario spinoffs as their own franchise) to represent as necessary the scope of a series. FE or Xeno might not be as big as Mario or Pokemon, but they definitely need the use of all three spots to showcase the series properly. FE's the toughest series to pick reps for, Marth is a gimme and Lyn and Azura were added for moveset diversity and to represent the three 'eras' of FE history. Pokemon Trainer uses Blaziken, Greninja, and Decidueye to give diversity to the Pokemon reps. Star Fox and Metroid each have two reps since they haven't been nearly as big now as they have in the past, and two reps are adequate for giving scope for the series. Little Mac and Takamaru I see as both heroes of Nintendo's retro history as well as being neat Japan vs. Western concepts for games. Baby Mario is a third spinoff rep because he functionally can represent the sports/kart games, the RPGs, and the Yoshi series (though Yoshi does that fine on his own). I definitely think a reboot would keep the original 12 characters in reality, since they're synonymous with Smash a fair bit, but this is a decent representation for a modern Smash reboot imo. But I am probably wrong!
 

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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:

Mario:
Yoshi:
Wario:
Donkey Kong:
Zelda:
Metroid:
Fire Emblem:
Kirby:
Star Fox:
Pokémon:
F-Zero:
Earthbound:
Pikmin:
Kid Icarus:
Animal Crossing:
Punch Out!:
Xenoblade:
Splatoon:
Retro:
Other:
SEGA:
Capcom:
Namco:
Square Enix:
Konami:
Mario: Geno
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: K. Rool
Zelda: Skull Kid
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Chrom
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Panther Leon
Pokémon: Incineroar
F-Zero: Black Shadow
Earthbound: Ninten
Pikmin: Louie
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Punch Out!: Doc Louis
Xenoblade: Rex and Pyra
Splatoon: Octolings (Agent 8)
Retro: Lip
Other: Isaac
SEGA: Shadow
Capcom: Monster Hunter
Namco: Lloyd Irving
Square Enix: Sora (technically Disney, but Normura's approval counts enough)
Konami: Simon Belmont
 

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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:
Mario: [Abstain]
Yoshi: [Abstain]
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Vaati
Metroid: [Abstain]
Fire Emblem: Lyndis
Kirby: [Abstain]
Star Fox: Krystal
Pokémon: Incineroar
F-Zero: [Abstain]
Earthbound: [Abstain]
Pikmin: [Abstain]
Kid Icarus: Medusa
Animal Crossing: [Abstain]
Punch Out!: [Abstain]
Xenoblade:[Abstain]
Splatoon: [Abstain]
Retro: [Abstain]
Other: Isaac
SEGA: Tails
Capcom: Phoenix Wright
Namco: Agumon
Square Enix: Tifa
Konami: Raiden

Man, I must really want this "[Abstain]" guy, huh?
 
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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series
Mario: Waluigi
Yoshi: Baby Bros? I don't want any more Yoshi.
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool
Zelda: Impa
Metroid: Dark Samus? I don't want any more Metroid.
Fire Emblem: Edelgard
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal
Pokémon: Decidueye
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh? I don't want any more F-Zero.
Earthbound: Ninten
Pikmin: Louie
Kid Icarus: Hades? I don't want any more Kid Icarus.
Animal Crossing: Isabelle? I don't want any more Animal Crossing.
Punch Out!: King Hippo? I don't want any more Punch-Out!!
Xenoblade: Rex & Pyra
Splatoon: Octoling
Retro: Takamaru
Other: Isaac
SEGA: Sakura Shinguji
Capcom: Phoenix Wright
Namco: Lloyd Irving
Square Enix: Sora
Konami: Simon Belmont
 
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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:

For me I’d do this:
Mario: Captain Toad
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Tetra
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Lyndis
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Slippy or Krystal
Pokémon: Zoroark
F-Zero: Jody Summer
Earthbound: Kumatora
Pikmin: Alph
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook or Isabelle
Punch Out!: Doc Lois
Xenoblade: Fiora
Splatoon: Octolings
Retro: Takamaru
Other: Chorus Kids
SEGA: Arle Nadja
Capcom: Chun-Li
Namco: Lloyd
Square Enix: Geno
Konami: Bomberman
Mario: Captain Toad
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashely
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool
Zelda: Tetra
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Lyn
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal
Pokémon: Gardevoir
F-Zero: Black Shadow
Earthbound: Masked Man
Pikmin: Abstain.
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Punch Out!: Abstain.
Xenoblade: Elma
Splatoon: Octolings
Retro: Lip
Other: Isaac
SEGA: NiGHTS
Capcom: Chun Li
Namco: Valkyrie
Square Enix: Geno
Konami: Simon Belmont

For Konami I want Bomberman but I supported Simon Belmont a bit longer. Couldn't think of a Current Gen Pokemon so I just went with Gardevoir because its powers sound cool. Abstain from Punch Out and Pikmin since there's no character I want. For Retro I was stuck between Lip, Ayumi Tachibana, Mach Rider and Takamaru. For other, I had to choose between Isaac from GS, Wonder Red, Saki Amamiya. I don't like having to choose.
 

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I think people are seriously underestimating Angry Birds' chances:
- Has been on Nintendo consoles before
- Best selling paid mobile app
- They have a movie
- Newer designs have arms and legs making them better fit for Smash

 

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Boshi has had a decent chance since Cloud and the Geno Mii Costume happened, he’s not too likely but is a easily possible Yoshi echo.
To be honest, I was more commenting on Kamek's chances than Boshi's. I would love a new Yoshi rep, but I get why people would have hang-ups about getting one
 

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Mario: Let's not talk about it... (Sorry Sakurai!)
Yoshi: I got nothin'
Wario: YOU BETTER LEARN MY NAME BECAUSE IT'S AAASHLEEEY!
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Impa maybe? I don't know Zelda, sorry.
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: NO MORE (except tharja)
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal Slippy
Pokemon: Mimikyu, or Incineroar, or Poipole, or Noivern, or-
F-Zero: Don't know F-Zero either, sorry...
Earthbound: Kumatora (I know...)
Pikmin: Louie
Kid Icarus: Viridi (Or Medusa)
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Punch Out!: Glass Joe
Xenoblade: Elma? I dunno.
Splatoon: The Squid Kids are good enough for now
Retro: Excite Bike racer?
Other: Rayman
Capcom: Amaterasu (Or Phoenix Wright)
Namco: (I don't care just keep Digimon away from me, Pokemon forever!)
Square Enix: Geno
Konami: Simon?

Excuse my lack of gaming knowledge, i'm mostly a Pokemon guy.
 

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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:

Mario:
Yoshi:
Wario:
Donkey Kong:
Zelda:
Metroid:
Fire Emblem:
Kirby:
Star Fox:
Pokémon:
F-Zero:
Earthbound:
Pikmin:
Kid Icarus:
Animal Crossing:
Punch Out!:
Xenoblade:
Splatoon:
Retro:
Other:
SEGA:
Capcom:
Namco:
Square Enix:
Konami:

For me I’d do this:
Mario: Captain Toad
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Tetra
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Lyndis
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Slippy or Krystal
Pokémon: Zoroark
F-Zero: Jody Summer
Earthbound: Kumatora
Pikmin: Alph
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook or Isabelle
Punch Out!: Doc Lois
Xenoblade: Fiora
Splatoon: Octolings
Retro: Takamaru
Other: Chorus Kids
SEGA: Arle Nadja
Capcom: Chun-Li
Namco: Lloyd
Square Enix: Geno
Konami: Bomberman
Super Mario: Waluigi
Yoshi's Island: Shy Guy
WarioWare: Ashley
Donkey Kong Country: Dixie Kong
The Legend of Zelda: Daruk
Metroid: Anthony Higgs
Fire Emblem: Chrom, followed by Celica then Caeda then Merric then Virion...
Kirby: Bandana Waddle Dee
Star Fox: Slippy Toad
Pokémon: Decidueye if we keep it semi-realistic, otherwise Shiftry
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh
Ice Climber: Polar Bear
Game & Watch: Mrs. Game & Watch
EarthBound: Porky Minch
Pikmin: Alph as an Olimar semi-clone
R.O.B.: Professor Hector
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Wii Fit: Balance Board
Punch-Out!!: King Hippo
Xenoblade Chronicles: Elma
Duck Hunt: The tree in the background
Splatoon: Callie and Marie
Retro: Muddy Mole
Other: Henry Fleming
SEGA: Dr. Eggman
Capcom: Phoenix Wright
Bandai-Namco: Dig-Dug
Square-Enix: Lara Croft
Konami: Frogger or Simon
 

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SEGA: NiGHTS
If I can just say something about this (not trying to stamp on your hopes and dreams, just using it as a jumping off point). NiGHTS is prime Assist Trophy material, but not a potential playable character. Why? NiGHTS can fly, freely; like, totally freely (yes, albeit limited to a 2D space). His movepool is super limited, too.
I can imagine a NiGHTS assist trophy though, easily.

When NiGHTS shows up, he does his little 'dualise' dance (with accompanying tune, people who've played NiGHTS know what I'm talking about), then starts flying right. When he flies off the right side of the screen, he loops back around and comes out the left. Whenever NiGHTS gets close to a fighter (except the summoner and those on their team, if any). he will try to paraloop them. Getting paralooped is an instant KO. If you get caught directly by NiGHTS, NiGHTS will instead grab you and launch you, recoiling off at an angle. After a recoil, NiGHTS will eventually come back, and will continue flying around until his time limit is up.
 
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Is it weird that I think Boshi is more likely to be in the game than Kamek? At least Boshi could be made into a clone. I just don't see a good Kamek moveset
I mean he's got plenty of moveset potential like teleportation, creating beings from inanimate objects, pyrokinesis, generating magical blasts from his scepter, summoning enemies to fight (like Zelda's Phantom Slash) and the ability to create copies of himself. And I like magic users.

I don't know how likely Boshi is since he hasn't been in a game since...like '96?
 

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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:

Mario:
Yoshi:
Wario:
Donkey Kong:
Zelda:
Metroid:
Fire Emblem:
Kirby:
Star Fox:
Pokémon:
F-Zero:
Earthbound:
Pikmin:
Kid Icarus:
Animal Crossing:
Punch Out!:
Xenoblade:
Splatoon:
Retro:
Other:
SEGA:
Capcom:
Namco:
Square Enix:
Konami:
I can’t sleep so sure why not?


Mario: Waluigi
Yoshi: the Stork
Wario: Mona
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool
Zelda: Skull Kid / Tingle
Metroid: Anthony Higgs
Fire Emblem: Hector
Kirby: Marx
Star Fox: Slippy, but only if he has a taunt where he yells “Your carcass is mine!!”
Pokémon: Mimikyu
F-Zero: Black Shadow
Earthbound: Porky (Spider mech from Earthbound)
Pikmin: N/A
Kid Icarus: Medusa
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Punch Out!: King Hippo
Xenoblade: Elma
Splatoon: Agent 8/Octoling
Retro: Excitebiker
Other: Henry Fleming (Codename: S.T.E.A.M)
SEGA: Samba de Amigo
Capcom: M. Bison
Namco: Pooka (from Dig-Dug)
Square Enix: Geno
Konami: Simon Belmont
 

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Super Mario: Waluigi
Yoshi's Island: Shy Guy
WarioWare: Ashley
Donkey Kong Country: Dixie Kong
The Legend of Zelda: Daruk
Metroid: Anthony Higgs
Fire Emblem: Chrom, followed by Celica then Caeda then Merric then Virion...
Kirby: Bandana Waddle Dee
Star Fox: Slippy Toad
Pokémon: Decidueye if we keep it semi-realistic, otherwise Shiftry
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh
Ice Climber: Polar Bear
Game & Watch: Mrs. Game & Watch
EarthBound: Porky Minch
Pikmin: Alph as an Olimar semi-clone
R.O.B.: Professor Hector
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Isabelle
Wii Fit: Balance Board
Punch-Out!!: King Hippo
Xenoblade Chronicles: Elma
Duck Hunt: The tree in the background
Splatoon: Callie and Marie
Retro: Muddy Mole
Other: Henry Fleming
SEGA: Dr. Eggman
Capcom: Phoenix Wright
Bandai-Namco: Dig-Dug
Square-Enix: Lara Croft
Konami: Frogger or Simon
Kudos for going above and beyond by including every universe with a playable representative, including ones with limited casts. (I would totally main Balance Board)
 

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I think people are seriously underestimating Angry Birds' chances:
- Has been on Nintendo consoles before
- Best selling paid mobile app
- They have a movie
- Newer designs have arms and legs making them better fit for Smash

There's no way that Angry Birds are getting into Smash Bros. over other popular characters and series. Minecraft, Halo, Monster Hunter, Kingdom Hearts, Sonic, every Nintendo series, and even more will get representation before Angry Birds.

Plus, everyone knows that Flappy Bird is the mobile representative.
 

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Kudos for going above and beyond by including every universe with a playable representative, including ones with limited casts. (I would totally main Balance Board)
Personally I'd love to try out Tree in the Background of Duck Hunt.
 

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A roster reboot? No, problem. I can’t do 24 Characters, but I can do 30.

:ultmario::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultbowser::ultyoshi::ultwario::ultdk::ultdiddy:
:ultpikachu::ultpokemontrainer::ultmewtwo::ultlink::ultzelda::ultganondorf::ultsamus::ultfalcon:
:ultkirby::ultkingdedede::ultmetaknight::ultfox::ultmarth::ultpit::ultvillager::ultness:
____:ultgnw::ultlittlemac::ultolimar::ultwiifittrainer::ultshulk::ultinkling:____

That was a lot harder than I though it’d be. I couldn’t imagine doing 24.
 
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Mario: Waluigi
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool, Dixie
Zelda: Impa
Metroid: Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Chrom
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal
Pokémon: Decidueye
Earthbound: Porky
Xenoblade: Rex & Pyra
Other: Chibi-Robo, Captain Toad, Spring Man, Crash Bandicoot, Shovel Knight
Sonic: Tails
Mega Man: Zero
Metal Gear: Raiden
Street Fighter: M. Bison
FF: Sepiroth, Lightning
Capcom: Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter
Namco: Heihachi
Konami: Simon Belmont
 

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If I can just say something about this (not trying to stamp on your hopes and dreams, just using it as a jumping off point). NiGHTS is prime Assist Trophy material, but not a potential playable character. Why? NiGHTS can fly, freely; like, totally freely (yes, albeit limited to a 2D space). His movepool is super limited, too.
I can imagine a NiGHTS assist trophy though, easily.

When NiGHTS shows up, he does his little 'dualise' dance (with accompanying tune, people who've played NiGHTS know what I'm talking about), then starts flying right. When he flies off the right side of the screen, he loops back around and comes out the left. Whenever NiGHTS gets close to a fighter (except the summoner and those on their team, if any). he will try to paraloop them. Getting paralooped is an instant KO. If you get caught directly by NiGHTS, NiGHTS will instead grab you and launch you, recoiling off at an angle. After a recoil, NiGHTS will eventually come back, and will continue flying around until his time limit is up.
Ah...maybe. I had to go and find their support thread by Pakky from a while ago.

https://smashboards.com/threads/nights-the-nightmaren-of-nightopia.411431/

They can work as an assist or a playable character I think. Eh.
 

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Let’s play a little game, choose your most wanted newcomer from each series:
Mario: Geno
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Skull Kid
Metroid: Adam Malkovich Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Any Bow user or Mounted character. NOT a sword person
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal
Pokémon: Mimikyu
F-Zero: Blood Falcon Maybe?
Mother: Kumatora
Pikmin: ... someone?
Kid Icarus: Magnus
Animal Crossing: Isabelle I guess?
Punch Out!: Doc Lewis
Xenoblade: Rex
Splatoon: Squid Sisters
Retro: Scrooge McDuck
Other: Banjo Kazooie
SEGA: NiGHTS
Capcom: Jill Valentine
Namco: Dig Dug
Square Enix: Chrono
Konami: Simon Belmont
 

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Back to King K. Rool discussion?
In Brawl, Sakurai put serious consideration into both Krystal and Wolf. Both were heavily requested characters with potential for unique movesets. In the end, he went with Wolf because he could reuse assets from Fox, whereas Krystal would have to be built from scratch.
Source?
 

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Mario: Geno
Yoshi: Kamek
Wario: Ashley
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Zelda: Skull Kid
Metroid: Adam Malkovich Dark Samus
Fire Emblem: Any Bow user or Mounted character. NOT a sword person
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal
Pokémon: Mimikyu
F-Zero: Blood Falcon Maybe?
Mother: Kumatora
Pikmin: ... someone?
Kid Icarus: Magnus
Animal Crossing: Isabelle I guess?
Punch Out!: Doc Lewis
Xenoblade: Rex
Splatoon: Squid Sisters
Retro: Scrooge McDuck
Other: Banjo Kazooie
SEGA: NiGHTS
Capcom: Jill Valentine
Namco: Dig Dug
Square Enix: Chrono
Konami: Simon Belmont
Ashley AND Mimikyu? Were we seperated at birth? Such fine taste...
 

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Basically there's a max for three characters per franchise (counting Mario spinoffs as their own franchise) to represent as necessary the scope of a series. FE or Xeno might not be as big as Mario or Pokemon, but they definitely need the use of all three spots to showcase the series properly. FE's the toughest series to pick reps for, Marth is a gimme and Lyn and Azura were added for moveset diversity and to represent the three 'eras' of FE history. Pokemon Trainer uses Blaziken, Greninja, and Decidueye to give diversity to the Pokemon reps. Star Fox and Metroid each have two reps since they haven't been nearly as big now as they have in the past, and two reps are adequate for giving scope for the series. Little Mac and Takamaru I see as both heroes of Nintendo's retro history as well as being neat Japan vs. Western concepts for games. Baby Mario is a third spinoff rep because he functionally can represent the sports/kart games, the RPGs, and the Yoshi series (though Yoshi does that fine on his own). I definitely think a reboot would keep the original 12 characters in reality, since they're synonymous with Smash a fair bit, but this is a decent representation for a modern Smash reboot imo. But I am probably wrong!
I suggest you break your max 3 rule (which you're practically breaking already with trainer) for one choice, and that is Peach rather than Baby Mario. She's just too Iconic, represent spin-offs better (and baby Mario used for that makes him worse as a Yoshi rep). If not, maybe an actual popular character like Ashley (Warioware) as a third spinoff rep. This is unless you just really like Baby Mario
 

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Was Riki available as an AT in the demo? Or did we only see him in the trailer?
 
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Reboot you say??

:ultmario::ultbowser::ultlink::ultganondorf::ultgnw::ultinkling:
:ultdk::ultdiddy::ultpikachu::ultmewtwo::ultpokemontrainer::ultzelda:
:ultfox::ultwolf::ultkirby::ultkingdedede::ultfalcon::ultpeach:
:ultsamus::ultridley::ultmarth::ultike::ultpit::ultbayonetta:

Unlockables: :ultbayonetta::ultmewtwo::ultfalcon::ultike::ultmarth::ultwolf::ultridley::ultganondorf:

:ultbayonetta:: Play 50 matches
:ultmewtwo:: Complete classic mode with Pikachu and Pokemon Trainer
:ultfalcon:: Complete Classic mode on Hard difficulty without using a continue.
:ultmarth:: Play on [insert Fire Emblem Stage 5 times].
:ultike:: Play Marth 10 times
:ultwolf:: Complete all challenges
:ultridley:: Complete Story mode on any difficulty.
:ultganondorf:: Unlock all secret characters AND play Link 10 times.


DLC: :ultfalco::ultmetaknight::ultpalutena::ultryu::ultmegaman::ultsonic::ultluigi::ulticeclimbers:

My 24 + DLC

I added Bayonetta considering she won the ballot; I am presuming it would be in bad taste to not include the ballot winner in a reboot.

Mad hard to do when having to cut 50+% of the cast lmao.
 
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Ah...maybe. I had to go and find their support thread by Pakky from a while ago.

https://smashboards.com/threads/nights-the-nightmaren-of-nightopia.411431/

They can work as an assist or a playable character I think. Eh.
Actually, I can expand on the idea. What if when you summon NiGHTS, you temporarily become NiGHTS? Since that's part of NiGHTS' lore, albeit simplified. You can freely control NiGHTS, and do everything they can do in the games (barring explicit power ups) until the effect wears off. It would make for an interesting Assist Trophy, and fully represent NiGHTS' abilities without having to limit them.
 
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