Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

It was from a Japanese text leak on 2ch with some Joker and Persona details that also mentioned ArcSys is developing a Granblue fighting game. That fighting game was then announced five days later. It was an interesting coincidence considering it isn't a new runor but other people in the US scene have said Erdrick is at least on the table.

It's nothing confirmed but it's neat.

Technically, it’s called 5chan now, formerly known as Futaba Channel.

 

[Gentlepanda]

What I will say, half-baked development model or not, is that it'd be quite odd for someone to go out of their way to make something like this 'leak' - Joker isn't a secret, so they gain absolutely nothing from it. After the Grinch leak, I certainly don't doubt the, er... commitment of some people, but I don't think it would be a reach for it to be real (nor would we really lose/gain anything either way, so the argument is really pointless).

 

[Deleted member]

Here's one issue we should think about, though.

How many basic-human-proportions characters does Nintendo want to fill this five character pass with? If we assume that Erdrick is in, that means 2/5 are already basic human/"anime" style characters. And I feel like Nintendo-- and Sakurai-- would want to vary the choices a little more aesthetically.

Granted, Smash For DLC was , and five of those are basic anime-ish humanoids, but those were decided separately. When looking at all five of the fighters pass characters collectively, I feel like they'd want them to be differentiated a bit more. Could be wrong.

I don't think nintendo cares about "problems" like "too much anime" like the Smash fanbase does when there's so much potential money is on the table

 

[staindgrey]

I wonder how many Smash fans actually hate anime?

I don't hate anime, but I very much dislike typical anime tropes. I like the anime that differentiates itself in its visuals and doesn't look like every other one made this decade.

Plus the obsession with schoolgirls deters me from most of the ones that focus on them. I basically only watch anime when it's heavily recommended to me and I can pronounce the title.

 

[Robertman2]

You know the more Maximilian Dood talks about his wack Sub-Zero in Smash theory, the more I gotta wonder if he knows something

 

[Robertman2]

I don't hate anime, but I very much dislike typical anime tropes. I like the anime that differentiates itself in its visuals and doesn't look like every other one made this decade.

Plus the obsession with schoolgirls deters me from most of the ones that focus on them. I basically only watch anime when it's heavily recommended to me and I can pronounce the title.

all anime should be jojo

fix the double post pls mods

 

[Deleted member]

If anyone is curious, Cr1tiKal gave Smash Ultimate a 90% out of a 100% on the Moist Meter.

So we can now say that this game is certified moist.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

You know the more Maximilian Dood talks about his wack Sub-Zero in Smash theory, the more I gotta wonder if he knows something

He’s just another Shulk echo

 

[staindgrey]

I don't think nintendo cares about "problems" like "too much anime" like the Smash fanbase does when there's so much potential money is on the table

Well, to be clear, I don't mean in the "too much anime" way like we do on these forums. I mean more from a business perspective. Diversifying your season pass so that you can hopefully appeal to as many different tastes as possible and so they don't look repetitive when listing them all together in a group image. This could be one of the factors in narrowing it down to the final five.

It also could not. We don't know.

 

[Deleted member]

all anime should be jojo

I’d rather my anime not be riddled with plot holes thank you very much.


/s a bit

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I don't hate anime, but I very much dislike typical anime tropes. I like the anime that differentiates itself in its visuals and doesn't look like every other one made this decade.

Plus the obsession with schoolgirls deters me from most of the ones that focus on them. I basically only watch anime when it's heavily recommended to me and I can pronounce the title.

the same face syndrome in love live is truly the worst thing ever

 

[ClaTheBae]

I wonder how many Smash fans actually hate anime?

Every single one of us has gathered and agreed to collectively hate the entire medium. Sorry man

 

[MBRedboy31]

What I will say, half-baked development model or not, is that it'd be quite odd for someone to go out of their way to make something like this 'leak' - Joker isn't a secret, so they gain absolutely nothing from it. After the Grinch leak, I certainly don't doubt the, er... commitment of some people, but I don't think it would be a reach for it to be real (nor would we really lose/gain anything either way, so the argument is really pointless).

They do gain the satisfaction of getting people on the internet to discuss their image, regardless of whether or not it’s real. Given that we’re talking about it, it’s already working.

I don't think nintendo cares about "problems" like "too much anime" like the Smash fanbase does when there's so much potential money is on the table

Theoretically, diversity would encourage more people with different preferences in character design to buy at least some of the DLC.

Then again, though, is minimal diversity actually better as it would get the people with that one preference to buy all of the DLC instead of just one or two characters? I would assume Nintendo has done their research on which one sells better.

 

[staindgrey]

I’d rather my anime not be riddled with plot holes thank you very much.


/s a bit

Aw, but plotholes are so fun!

It's why I ****ing love rewatching Gundam Wing. Like, I've watched the show to completion probably 7 or 8 times in my life and I still get surprised when something happens and my response is, "wait, what."

 

[Deleted member]

Well, to be clear, I don't mean in the "too much anime" way like we do on these forums. I mean more from a business perspective. Diversifying your season pass so that you can hopefully appeal to as many different tastes as possible and so they don't look repetitive when listing them all together in a group image. This could be one of the factors in narrowing it down to the final five.

It also could not. We don't know.

I guess? I mean if you truly do have heavy hitters like Joker and a DQ rep, I don't think that diversifying it matters.

...granted, most of the heavy hitters like Geno, banjo, or Steve aren't anime figures and it would be plenty diverse as well.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't hate anime, but I very much dislike typical anime tropes. I like the anime that differentiates itself in its visuals and doesn't look like every other one made this decade.

Plus the obsession with schoolgirls deters me from most of the ones that focus on them. I basically only watch anime when it's heavily recommended to me and I can pronounce the title.

I'd wonder why anyone would watch anime with schoolgirls in the first place...

 

[FalcoXP]

I don't hate anime, but I very much dislike typical anime tropes. I like the anime that differentiates itself in its visuals and doesn't look like every other one made this decade.

Plus the obsession with schoolgirls deters me from most of the ones that focus on them. I basically only watch anime when it's heavily recommended to me and I can pronounce the title.

Same. That's why I ended liking Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, started watching it for the memes and lulz, and now im a jojofan.

 

[staindgrey]

I guess? I mean if you truly do have heavy hitters like Joker and a DQ rep, I don't think that diversifying it matters.

...granted, most of the heavy hitters like Geno, banjo, or Steve aren't anime figures and it would be plenty diverse as well.

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.

Let's say Nintendo has ten top choices on the table, and they've got to narrow it down to five. And seven of them have the same proportions, then a few of those have similar looks to characters they already have in the base game (like Erdrick). The three who don't, like, say, Banjo or Steve, have an aesthetic advantage that could be what breaks the tie.

It's all just a hypothesis though. I'm a marketer so I think about these things.

 

[Deleted member]

Aw, but plotholes are so fun!

It's why I ****ing love rewatching Gundam Wing. Like, I've watched the show to completion probably 7 or 8 times in my life and I still get surprised when something happens and my response is, "wait, what."

I’m mostly joking. With regards to Jojo, for me it does get a bit annoying when in part 3 one of the characters is revived after dying and then in part 4 they explicitly say that someone can’t be reveieved if they’ve died. Most plot holes don’t bug me though, and like you said they can be fun sometimes.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd wonder why anyone would watch anime with schoolgirls in the first place...

Nichijou is pretty fun and out of the box for a slice of life schoolgirl anime

 

[staindgrey]

I'd wonder why anyone would watch anime with schoolgirls in the first place...

If you google "Japanese schoolgirl" you'll be enlightened.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Nichijou is pretty fun and out of the box for a slice of life schoolgirl anime

The ****ing scene with the octopus hot dog was amazing

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Nichijou is pretty fun and out of the box for a slice of life schoolgirl anime

sorry, i like my Nichibros (Daily Lives of High School Boys)

 

[Luigi The President]

What I will say, half-baked development model or not, is that it'd be quite odd for someone to go out of their way to make something like this 'leak' - Joker isn't a secret, so they gain absolutely nothing from it. After the Grinch leak, I certainly don't doubt the, er... commitment of some people, but I don't think it would be a reach for it to be real (nor would we really lose/gain anything either way, so the argument is really pointless).

What leak?

 

[MBRedboy31]

If you google "Japanese schoolgirl" you'll be enlightened.

I wonder what percentage of people who bought Smash Ultimate did so because Inkling’s purple alt exists

 

[Alternis]

Today I learned that you can't set the Smash 64 menu theme as a song to be used on the menu.

Seriously, why put the song in the game if you can't use it on the menu or a stage? It's really disappointing.

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder what percentage of people who bought Smash Ultimate did so because Inkling’s purple alt exists

Old and rusted: ****ing to inklings purple schoolgirl alt like a degenerate
New and busted: ****ing to real hot **** like richter belmont

 

[Deleted member]

Old and rusted: ****ing to inklings purple schoolgirl alt like a degenerate
New and busted: ****ing to real hot **** like richter belmont

Only if it’s his symphony of the night design.

 

[Deleted member]

Only if it’s his symphony of the night design.

good taste but not manly enough tbh

 

[ClaTheBae]

Anime is weird because a lot of them feel the same, but the ones that have balls really do end up standing out.

Oreimo, for example, betrays a lot of common beats when the MC gets a girlfriend, rejects every girl that likes him, then actually gets with [REDACTED}

Not saying it's great writing but at least it's interesting

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I already bought it. Hopefully I'll get all the packs easily.

I'm waiting until after Christmas. After the past couple days of announcements in the game space I have plenty of titles to save up for.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Here's one issue we should think about, though.

How many basic-human-proportions characters does Nintendo want to fill this five character pass with? If we assume that Erdrick is in, that means 2/5 are already basic human/"anime" style characters. And I feel like Nintendo-- and Sakurai-- would want to vary the choices a little more aesthetically.

Granted, Smash For DLC was , and five of those are basic anime-ish humanoids, but those were decided separately. When looking at all five of the fighters pass characters collectively, I feel like they'd want them to be differentiated a bit more. Could be wrong.

This is my problem with it so far.

I get that Joker/Erdrick/Cloud/Lloyd all come from different JRPG subgenres, but they all have a similar face/body/hair style that’s not my favorite. It doesn’t help that my most wanted is also human, albeit built more along Simon’s lines, so I don’t want him to get upstaged with ‘too many people’ arguments.

If we discount the three vets, every one of the previous DLC characters was human - two more realistic, and two more anime. So far, we’ve got an anime-esque one declared and two rumored, so it’s looking like another salt mine for people who aren’t a huge fan of human fighters - especially anime humans.

 

[Flyboy]

Also, whoever that person was who kept making jokes about the Water From Fluidity being in...I just got to World of Light's Pac-Maze-esque area and...it's in. As a Spirit, but still. You did it

 

[Gentlepanda]

What leak?

Spoiler

 

[PlugMeister]

I'll openly admit that I bought the Fighters Pass as soon as it was available back in November. Even if the remaining characters end up being ones I personally don't care for (and Joker certainly is one I'm glad to see on popularity alone), Smash is Smash and I know for a fact that Sakurai and his team are going to make quality content.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

>Talking about how majority of DLC characters will be anime looking characters.

This forum has gone down the deep end.

Imagine it being the case then?

-Banjo/Master Chief/Steve
-Erdrick
-Joker (Confirmed)
-Lloyd Irving
-Poochy

 

[Captain Shwampy]

This is my problem with it so far.

I get that Joker/Erdrick/Cloud/Lloyd all come from different JRPG subgenres, but they all have a similar face/body/hair style that’s not my favorite

what

 

[Deleted member]

He isn’t playable, but this somewhat eases the gnawing pain carved into my soul, feasting upon whatever remnants of sanity remain within me

Spoiler

 

[ClaTheBae]

He isn’t playable, but this somewhat eases the gnawing pain carved into my soul, feasting upon whatever remnants of sanity remain within me

Spoiler

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bisexual king

 

[Icedragonadam]

This is my problem with it so far.

I get that Joker/Erdrick/Cloud/Lloyd all come from different JRPG subgenres, but they all have a similar face/body/hair style that’s not my favorite. It doesn’t help that my most wanted is also human, albeit built more along Simon’s lines, so I don’t want him to get upstaged with ‘too many people’ arguments.

If we discount the three vets, every one of the previous DLC characters was human - two more realistic, and two more anime. So far, we’ve got an anime-esque one declared and two rumored, so it’s looking like another salt mine for people who aren’t a huge fan of human fighters - especially anime humans.

Everyone but Joker has some spiky hair sure. But all of their design styles are actually distinct from another. Especially Erdrick as he was designed by Akira Toriyama.

A portion of the Smash fanbase's obsession over "anime swordsmen" and "cartoony characters", aka just reducing characters to just "design style" is really tiring now.