Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[SnakeFighter64]

DLC boss idea.

The early Nintendo arcade game Space Firebird.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

Sure, the important thing is we got promotions. That's what everyone was asking for.

I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not, but that was from game to game. Not in the same game in which they are also an Assist Trophy.

 

[Will]

So the first major was in Seattle?

A place where I'm going in 2 days and I missed it?!!!

Listen dog I don't think you had much of a chance of winning in the first place.

DLC boss idea.

The early Nintendo arcade game Space Firebird.

I doubt they would add to World of Light outside of just random spots to unlock them.

 

[Wademan94]

But she's a spirit...

...why you gotta do this to me man?

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

name one reason why they should bother

Chrom was never an Assist Trophy, just an element of a Final Smash.

I mean, I guess it could happen. I just don’t see the point. Why not make them playable in the first place?

 

[Zinith]

You're coming here?

Zinith, dear, as a Washingtonian, don't, it's miserable, cold and wet.

Dude...

I was born and raised there...

 

[osby]

I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not, but that was from game to game. Not in the same game in which they are also an Assist Trophy.

I'm joking. It's funny how some people act like Assist Trophies are in a special place that just needs a way of "promotion" via DLC, just because a character they like is in it.

 

[Deleted member]

Except it's a stage based off of an arcade game based off a bad TV show over 30 years ago.

Fully aware it predates Undertale, lol.

Was simply making a lame joke.

In all seriousness, I'm probably with the rest here and think 75m is probably the worst stage.

 

[Will]

I just don’t see the point. Why not make them playable in the first place?

You know what the purpose of Assist trophies are, right?

Would you rather have no Isaac, or some Isaac? If you say no Isaac, you're lying.

 

[Shroob]

Dude...

I was born and raised there...

I'm sorry you were born in such an awful state, my friend,

 

[Zinith]

I'm sorry you were born in such an awful state, my friend,

I'd take it over where I currently live (Nevada)...

 

[Deleted member]

You know what the purpose of Assist trophies are, right?

Would you rather have no Isaac, or some Isaac? If you say no Isaac, you're lying.

Yeah, to NOT be playable.

 

[Idon]

However, my question is, do you think we’ll get a second Fighter Pass that is more Nintendo centric, and if so who do you think would be the 5?

LYNDI-

No Assist Trophy characters please.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

...why you gotta do this to me man?

That's all I got.

 

[Will]

Yeah, to NOT be playable.

Because they couldn't do it in time, but they have enough time to do something like Assist trophies.

LYNDI-

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HECTOR GANG RISE UP

 

[Will]

man i am terrible at timing my posts

 

[Wademan94]

That's all I got.

Charming.

 

[Zinith]

However, my question is, do you think we’ll get a second Fighter Pass that is more Nintendo centric, and if so who do you think would be the 5? No Assist Trophy characters please. Spirits are fine.

Interesting you said "no assist trophies" because that was what I was hoping and was 95% sure was what Poochy would end up being...

 

[Deleted member]

Still don't understand why ATs are treated like they're the very manifestation of evil itself.

At least the character is in the game at all. Plus, ATs are super complex in this game; there was a lot of love asnd care put in to 'em. They're neat, and this comes from a Waluigi supporter.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

I'm joking. It's funny how some people act like Assist Trophies are in a special place that just needs a way of "promotion" via DLC, just because a character they like is in it.

Thank you! My point exactly.

You know what the purpose of Assist trophies are, right?

Would you rather have no Isaac, or some Isaac? If you say no Isaac, you're lying.

I don’t think you understand what I was trying to say... I was saying I didn’t want anyone saying that they think an Assist Trophy was going to be part of potential DLC of a game they are already in.

Assist Trophies assist in battle...and provide representation without playability.

I couldn’t care less about Isacc. Never played Golden Sun.

 

[osby]

You know what the purpose of Assist trophies are, right?

Would you rather have no Isaac, or some Isaac? If you say no Isaac, you're lying.

You can just be a extremist that doesn't want anything in the game that isn't perfectly in-line with your ideas.

There are quite a few people want some Assist Trophies to be gone for that exact reason.

 

[Will]

I couldn’t care less about Isacc. Never played Golden Sun.

He's an example because he was literally the first person who popped in my head.

 

[Wademan94]

I’m not one of these people, but yeah, I imagine that people who play without items don’t think it’s not so bad the characters they wanted as fighters are Assist Trophies.

Interesting you said "no assist trophies" because that was what I was hoping and was 95% sure was what Poochy would end up being...

I know you keep pushing Poochy, but I’m curious as to what kind of moveset he’d have. If you have any ideas, I’m interested in hearing them.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

He's an example because he was literally the first person who popped in my head.

Okay, I see what you’re saying now. Sorry, I’m a little illiterate when it comes to picking up emotions in text post.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Dude...

I was born and raised there...

"Iiiiin Washington I was born and raised, playing Yoshi's Island is how I spent most of my days"

 

[Will]

Still don't understand why ATs are treated like they're the very manifestation of evil itself.

At least the character is in the game at all. Plus, ATs are super complex in this game; there was a lot of love asnd care put in to 'em. They're neat, and this comes from a Waluigi supporter.

B-B-B-BUT IF WALUIGI WASN'T AN ASSIST AND ALL ASSISTS WERE GONE HE WOULD BE PROGRAMMED TO BE PLAYABLE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T WASTE TIME PROGRAMMING USELESS ITEMS NOBODY PLAYS I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG

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You can just be a extremist that doesn't want anything in the game that isn't perfectly in-line with your ideas.

I'd rather be someone who begs for a low-tier main to get buffed to top tier.

 

[osby]

I’m not one of these people, but yeah, I imagine that people who play without items don’t think it’s not so bad the characters they wanted as fighters are Assist Trophies.

So? You can't just shut off a significant part of the game and then blame others for it.

 

[Zinith]

I know you keep pushing Poochy, but I’m curious as to what kind of moveset he’d have. If you have any ideas, I’m interested in hearing them.

One of the reasons I joined the support was because I saw this:

Made a moveset for Poochy

Poochy Moveset

Attributes: Since Yoshi uses poochy as a mount he would have to be heavier than yoshi, maybe around Samus' weight. also I imagine he would have better ground mobility than the air, since he's seen on the ground running rather than jumping around like yoshi.

B- Lick:

Spoiler: Inspiration

This move is taken directly from one of Yoshi's custom moves in Smash 4, Poochy lunges forward and gives the opponent a big ol' lick. Altered slightly so the tongue goes in an upward motion to allow the move's hitbox to guard against aerial attacks.

Side B- Charge:

Spoiler: Inspiration

Poochy charges forward at high speeds, going into a charge that deals moderate knockback and damage when colliding with an enemy. While charging poochy receives both knockback and damage resistance (a nod toward Poochy resilience, seriously the dog can withstand acid and lava!). Lastly, after a short animation, Poochy can change directions during the charge. Performing this move in the air puts Poochy in special fall.

Up B- Bubble:

Spoiler: Inspiration

After a bit of start up, Poochy becomes encased inside a bubble (like the ones Baby mario and the rest of the mario crew in 3D world use) and starts floating in a direction of your choice. You can speed up or slow down the direction the bubble moves in, and even go a different direction if you counteract the initial momentum of the move. After the duration of the move or if the move is ended early by pressing B, the bubble will pop dealing damage and knockback to enemies in a small radius around poochy.

Down B- Poochy-Pups:

Spoiler: Inspiration

These little woolly pups function somewhere in between 's Pikmin and 's Lumas. You can call them out one by one with your Down special maxing out at 3 at a time. These little guys will follow behind Poochy and try their best to mimic big poochy's actions, preforming weak versions of his attacks. If Poochy preforms a smash attack or Special move, they will perform their weak version of the attack one after the other. If the pups are knocked away, they won't mimic your attacks until they can reach you again. Unfortunately, Poochy pups only have a set amount of HP before they unravel and you have to wait for them to recharge. You can see how many Pups you have available to call in during play by little pup icons on top of your damage indicator. Using bubble will cause the pups to get encased in a bubble and automatically float towards poochy.

But to expand on it, since Yoshi is sort of in the middle of representing Mario and his own games, Poochy would embody a more pure "Yoshi's Island" experience and incorporate elements of those games not seen in Yoshi's own arsenal (like the bubble and the Poochy Pups for instance)

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Still don't understand why ATs are treated like they're the very manifestation of evil itself.

At least the character is in the game at all. Plus, ATs are super complex in this game; there was a lot of love asnd care put in to 'em. They're neat, and this comes from a Waluigi supporter.

Mainly because they want to play the character(s) as apose to using them as randomized temporary items which not everyone uses(I dislike using items), it's nice to see them more active this time but I can highly understand why people don't like the assist trophy treatment. Just another case of how life can't give everything that's desired.

 

[Wademan94]

One of the reasons I joined the support was because I saw this:


But to expand on it, since Yoshi is sort of in the middle of representing Mario and his own games, Poochy would embody a more pure "Yoshi's Island" experience and incorporate elements of those games not seen in Yoshi's own arsenal (like the bubble and the Poochy Pups for instance)

Interesting, though I’d have to see a more fleshed out moveset to be more invested in him since this only covers his specials.

 

[LetterO]

I just noticed that K. Rool, Ridley, and Incineroar all have the exact same down smash.

 

[osby]

I just noticed that K. Rool, Ridley, and Incineroar all have the exact same down smash.

They don't use swords, so it's okay.

 

[ChronoBound]

Yeah I definitely can see this working, I mentioned this on the last page but I think another change I could see is her also having down special as well using her hair that is faster and less knockback but has more combo potential.




Her guitar could also be incorporated into her taunts and victory animations as well.

I could easily see the guitar as being part of her victory animations.

Would Funky have made a good echo fighter?

Funky is among the most likely candidates to be chosen if additional echoes were to happen (other very strong contenders are Impa, Octoling, Shadow, and Jeanne).

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

All this Poochy talk reminded me of the Woolly World stage. Still confused as to why it got cut...

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

I just want a big update that adds a new and improved Smash Run that’s multiplayer and has online connectivity.

 

[Zinith]

Interesting, though I’d have to see a more fleshed out moveset to be more invested in him since this only covers his specials.

Well one idea is that since he digs in Yoshi's Story, his down throw could bury opponents. He can grab with his tongue, forward throw could just be a launch, back throw could be a hind leg kick, and up throw could use his stubby little tail.

Dash attack could be a roll like DK.

I can think of others...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

All this Poochy talk reminded me of the Woolly World stage. Still confused as to why it got cut...

Maybe Poochy is among the planned DLC and Crafted World will be his stage.

 

[MainJPW]

I just noticed that K. Rool, Ridley, and Incineroar all have the exact same down smash.

I don’t like that Sonic and Falco both do the splits to be honest with you.

 

[CroonerMike]

That's all I got.

Where did you get the images in your sig?

 

[osby]

All this Poochy talk reminded me of the Woolly World stage. Still confused as to why it got cut...

Because cutting stages isn't an active practice. it just means they could have added limited amount of stages and Wooly World wasn't one of them.