Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Idon]

Don't worry when Dante from DMC comes out, you'll have a way cooler styling character to replace Bayo.

 

[osby]

So I can play as Bayonetta and whole fandom won't try to make me feel like **** for using a character I like? Wow, this really is Ultimate.

She had to pay for her SSS tier crimes.

She was S tier, though. Same with Diddy and Cloud.

 

[NineS]

She had to pay for her SSS tier crimes.

I've read some of her moves don't kill until sub-200 which is hilarious if true.

So I can play as Bayonetta and whole fandom won't try to make me feel like **** for using a character I like? Wow, this really is Ultimate.

Ridley died for our sins.

 

[Zinith]

And I'd end up playing the 15th best character if the tournament results so far are any indication...

Perfect position

 

[osby]

Ridley died for our sins.

"Hey, items and hazards are on, they are playing on a stage with Pichu-height blastzones and an experienced Bayonetta player beat a rookie Ridley player."

"...Bayo still OP confirmed guys!"

 

[StormC]

She was S tier, though. Same with Diddy and Cloud.

Maybe more S's would have made the joke more obvious.

Dante actually will be SSS tier though if he gets in.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

So I can play as Bayonetta and whole fandom won't try to make me feel like **** for using a character I like? Wow, this really is Ultimate.



She was S tier, though. Same with Diddy and Cloud.

Nerfs can be a blessing in disguise, by far the character I was most excited to play in Brawl was Meta Knight, but ironically it was actually pretty difficult maining a character so broken, so over time I ended up dropping him. Smash 4 almost gave me a new character in that regard, even if they went overboard with the nerfs at first I still appreciated it.

I find that the best spot for a character you like to end up in is low-mid A tier, the character is good enough that it'll make frequent tournament appearances and a lot of people help push its meta, but without the criticism that comes with "picking the easy option".

 

[StormC]

I'm still rocking the Buster Sword no matter what the nerfs, personally. I never mained Cloud just because he was top tier.

Though in friendlies I'll keep myself from charging Limit sometimes just because I know it pisses people off.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Lmao Philistine from No More Heroes 2 popped up on my youtube feed for the first time in 8 years or so, add Travis for Smash so we can have it even if it gets the vocals cut due to completely understandable reasons

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Wow. Waluigi isn't even a Legend. They cut him short at Ace and didn't even make the battle particularly interesting it's just ''Hey. Fight Luigi while Waluigi annoys you!"

 

[Will]

I get characters kicked out of Elite Smash like two matches as they get in. Except Snake, he's just still there for some reason.

 

[osby]

Wow. Waluigi isn't even a Legend. They cut him short at Ace and didn't even make the battle particularly interesting it's just ''Hey. Fight Luigi while Waluigi annoys you!"

Sounds very in-character of him.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Also am I the only one who has random voice clips that aren't normal since the patch?

I swear Bayonetta just spoke Japanese when I threw Snake, but maybe I'm tired and need to get my ass to bed.

It happened once before too and I know I had to be crazy because Cloud randomly spoke English.

 

[osby]

Also am I the only one who has random voice clips that aren't normal since the patch?

I swear Bayonetta just spoke Japanese when I threw Snake, but maybe I'm tired and need to get my *** to bed.

It happened once before too and I know I had to be crazy because Cloud randomly spoke English.

Bayonetta sometimes says "Juunen hayain da yo!" while forward throwing the opponent, even in English version. It's a Virtua Fighter reference.

 

[NineS]

Sounds very in-character of him.

Well, when you think of it, Waluigi's whole purpose is to attempt to one-up Luigi at whatever he does in order to prove his worth.
Not once have you seen Waluigi in a game that Luigi isn't in. Without Luigi, Waluigi would be nothing. Unlike Wario, where Wario simply hates Mario to a degree due to how he was treated as a child, Waluigi despises Luigi out of jealousy. In a similar manner to how Luigi is in Mario's shadow, Waluigi is in Luigi's shadow. Wario doesn't necessarily care for that, due to being self-absorbed and greedy, already having some fame of his own.

The battle in a way is kind of just Waluigi's entire story. Whatever Luigi does, he tries to do better than him, even though Luigi is the one people tend to shine the spotlight on more and others simply see him as a nuisance wannabe. Waluigi isn't necessarily bad at what he does, and he does try hard, but people prioritize Luigi in the end over him.

Wario was birthed out of hate or distate of his creator, symbolizing the situation he found himself in. Waluigi was birthed out of simply the need for something just a level above being a placeholder to assist Wario and mock Luigi, to the point Waluigi doesn't have anything unique to himself. His physical traits are merely Luigi's but exaggerated while taking some things from Wario. Wario's traits were Mario's morphed into a hideously distateful form out of hate, but still unique enough to make those traits his own.

To that end, I suppose there would be nothing truer to Waluigi's character than being an assist trophy and fulfill the role he was given in the first place.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Bayonetta sometimes says "Juunen hayain da yo!" while forward throwing the opponent, even in English version. It's a Virtua Fighter reference.

Oh well that's random as hell and such a small thing from her game that I completely forgot about it.

Goes to show how much detail Sakurai puts into each character though.

 

[osby]

Well, when you think of it, Waluigi's whole purpose is to attempt to one-up Luigi at whatever he does in order to prove his worth.
Not once have you seen Waluigi in a game that Luigi isn't in. Without Luigi, Waluigi would be nothing. Unlike Wario, where Wario simply hates Mario to a degree due to how he was treated as a child, Waluigi despises Luigi out of jealousy. In a similar manner to how Luigi is in Mario's shadow, Waluigi is in Luigi's shadow. Wario doesn't necessarily care for that, due to being self-absorbed and greedy, already having some fame of his own.

The battle in a way is kind of just Waluigi's entire story. Whatever Luigi does, he tries to do better than him, even though Luigi is the one people tend to shine the spotlight on more and others simply see him as a nuisance wannabe. Waluigi isn't necessarily bad at what he does, and he does try hard, but people prioritize Luigi in the end over him.

Wario was birthed out of hate or distate of his creator, symbolizing the situation he found himself in. Waluigi was birthed out of simply the need for something just a level above being a placeholder to assist Wario and mock Luigi, to the point Waluigi doesn't have anything unique to himself. His physical traits are merely Luigi's but exaggerated while taking some things from Wario. Wario's traits were Mario's morphed into a hideously distateful form out of hate, but still unique enough to make those traits his own.

I was talking about the annoying part but this is pretty deep.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Wow. Waluigi isn't even a Legend. They cut him short at Ace and didn't even make the battle particularly interesting it's just ''Hey. Fight Luigi while Waluigi annoys you!"

I heard that Waluigi's Ace upgrades into a Legend... Several characters do that. Isaac and Lyn both do that, for example.

 

[Zinith]

Just so you know Waluigi's been around for more than half of Luigi's lifecycle (18 years out of 35).... wow, I'm getting old

 

[NineS]

I was talking about the annoying part but this is pretty deep.

I spew nonsense like this when I'm tired.

This isn't the first time.
And I seriously doubt it'll be the last.
Whenever I'm tired, and whatever I post isn't something like that, then it's usually something like this:

If Incineroar's belt is part of his body, and he can shoot fire out of his belt, then is all of the fire he uses really just the way he gets rid of waste instead of spending a while on the toilet?
Methane is pretty flammable... And I've heard some people can get it pretty explosive... Maybe Incineroar favors eating chimichangas?

 

[Will]

I heard that Waluigi's Ace upgrades into a Legend... Several characters do that. Isaac and Lyn both do that, for example.

that's if they're enchanceable though, which waluigi isnt

 

[osby]

I spew nonsense like this when I'm tired.

This isn't the first time.
And I seriously doubt it'll be the last.
Whenever I'm tired, and whatever I post isn't something like that, then it's usually something like this:

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If Incineroar's belt is part of his body, and he can shoot fire out of his belt, then is all of the fire he uses really just the way he gets rid of waste instead of spending a while on the toilet?
Methane is pretty flammable... And I've heard some people can get it pretty explosive... Maybe Incineroar favors eating chimichangas?

I've always though it had something to do with sacral chakra.

that's if they're enchanceable though, which waluigi isnt

So he's destined to stay in one position for the rest of his life?

...fitting.

 

[Will]

I thought was going to be my biggest threat, but she's not that hard to counter.

on the other hand though is a ****ing nightmare, how do i beat this chick

 

[NineS]

So he's destined to stay in one position for the rest of his life?

...fitting.

You know, it makes sense when you think about it because--

 

[Deleted member]

Joker and the Fantastic Four are a great way to start the Fighter Pass, tbh.

And the latter were leaked yesterday.

I don’t want any Bestheda content in Smash after the trash that was Fallout 76.

 

[Graizen]

Good Morning Smashers ^^

 

[Zinith]

Good Morning Smashers ^^

Morning!!!

For you at least. For me it's close to bed time...

 

[Deleted member]

**** Bestheda.

They don’t deserve stuff in Smash.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Good Morning Smashers ^^

Good morning! Or, in my case, good afternoon!

 

[osby]

Good Morning Smashers ^^

Good morning^^

It seems it's only morning in there

 

[Deleted member]

Anyone who wants Bestheda content in Smash should play Fallout 76 to reject their decission.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Anyone who wants Bestheda content in Smash should play Fallout 76 to reject their decission.

you seem oddly hung up on this today

 

[Deleted member]

you seem oddly hung up on this today

Because there are better western companies that should get reps in Smash.

Rare and Mojang are some examples.

 

[Graizen]

Good morning! Or, in my case, good afternoon!

So, Good Afternoon

Good morning^^

It seems it's only morning in there

Yes it is , here is 10:45 now

 

[Deleted member]

So, Good Afternoon



Yes it is , here is 10:45 now

It is 12:47 here.

 

[Zinith]

Yes it is , here is 10:45 now

4:47 am for me...

Yes, seriously

 

[NineS]

Because there are better western companies that should get reps in Smash.

Rare and Mojang are some examples.

So, basically...

Microsoft?

 

[Deleted member]

So, basically...

Microsoft?

Kind of, yeah.

 

[NineS]

Kind of, yeah.

Funny thing is Mojang is actually Swedish.

Wait...
What is "western" again?

 

[Deleted member]

Funny thing is Mojang is actually Swedish.

Wait...
What is "western" again?

I suppose that the term refers to companies outside of Japan or Asia.