Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Hazardless stages are the best kind

NO

 

[Impa4Smash]

I wish I had your optimism here.

Maybe I’m wrong but it just feels like a cycle with Nintendo. Release online game, has **** online, they learn something, implement what they learn for that game, better online.

And repeat for every game with online.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I thought Smash 4's online was fine, aside from the lag.

 

[Impa4Smash]

NO

Compelling arguement, but I still disagree

 

[Deleted member]

I thought Smash 4's online was fine, aside from the lag.

For Glory worked well.

The problem was with For Fun.

 

[Opossum]

I wanted the monsters in Dracula’s Castle as hazards.

But the stage ended up being a hazardless one...

That's a good thing imo. Hazards often ruin the fun.

I'm happy with Dracula's Castle as it is.

 

[Gentlepanda]

we live in enlightened times

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

For Glory worked well.

The problem was with For Fun.

For Fun was a bit hectic.

 

[Deleted member]

That's a good thing imo. Hazards often ruin the fun.

I'm happy with Dracula's Castle as it is.

It isn’t a good thing.

But i can see why you are happy.

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe I’m wrong but it just feels like a cycle with Nintendo. Release online game, has **** online, they learn something, implement what they learn for that game, better online.

And repeat for every game with online.

It could happen, but based on other things Nintendo has done it seems like they don’t like changing the online at its core. The online for this game is pretty fundamentally bad. Although maybe they could implement some sort of option to decide how close you want your opponent’s rules to be to yours. Though at this point, despite how not great they were, id just take For Glory and For Fun back.

 

[Deleted member]

we live in enlightened times

Make Woodman.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

It could happen, but based on other things Nintendo has done it seems like they don’t like changing the online at its core. The online for this game is pretty fundamentally bad. Although maybe they could implement some sort of option to decide how close you want your opponent’s rules to be to yours. Though at this point, despite how not great they were, id just take For Glory and For Fun back.

What's bad about it? Looked fine in the direct.

 

[Opossum]

we live in enlightened times

Given the pose, I sure hope you named her Knee-a.

 

[kirbsmash]

It could happen, but based on other things Nintendo has done it seems like they don’t like changing the online at its core. The online for this game is pretty fundamentally bad. Although maybe they could implement some sort of option to decide how close you want your opponent’s rules to be to yours. Though at this point, despite how not great they were, id just take For Glory and For Fun back.

Who did you main the most?

 

[Impa4Smash]

It could happen, but based on other things Nintendo has done it seems like they don’t like changing the online at its core. The online for this game is pretty fundamentally bad. Although maybe they could implement some sort of option to decide how close you want your opponent’s rules to be to yours. Though at this point, despite how not great they were, id just take For Glory and For Fun back.

For Glory and For Fun would be amazing. They’ll have to change it though if they want it to continue to succeed. Good online is vital to games like Smash for longevity

 

[Pokechu]

Because of the incessant need people had for her to be playable just because she was popular despite the fact being an Assist was literally perfect for her character because it is who she is.
All the arrogance about how much of a "lock" she was and how anyone with opposing viewpoints were ridiculed on top of all the really...really questionable hypotheticals in regards to her moveset bred out of desperation to show how much "unique potential" she had didn't help matters for me.

Only reason I begrudgingly accepted Isabelle was because Incineroar was supposed to come later.
But she is a literal ***** to fight against due to the very half-***** tools given to make her "different" from Villager, so now I'm legitimately wishing she stayed an Assist...

To be fair, a lot of characters in Smash you could say an unplayable role fits them, or that they don't belong on the battlefield. Peach always gets kidnapped, now we have Piranha Plant too (who is generic). Ice Climbers are two kids in parkas, and Villager is just some kid with his toys LOL (and R.O.B. is an actual toy!)

While none of them have Isabelle's pacifist nature (save for Peach maybe), a character's personality shouldn't prevent them from being playable. Isabelle is a rising star in her series, she's popular, and she's fun to see fight. If Isabelle is blocked from fighting just because "it's not who she is!" then that just limits the creativity of picks.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just realized I never tried Mewtwo or Greninja, some of my mains from 4 and want to boot up the game right now for that. But it's 2AM lol

 

[Dyllybirdy]

we live in enlightened times

Oh dear god, poor Nia!

 

[PsySmasher]

I thought Smash 4's online was fine, aside from the lag.

Same here.
So now I'm wondering why they changed it, especially to a matchmaking system that constantly gives you rulesets that you don't want to play with.
And on top of that, you have to pay for this online, unlike Smash 4.

 

[Deleted member]

**** legal stages.
They ruin the fun even when the competitive scen has battlefield and final destination mode.

They ruined Dracula’s Castle by making it hazardless.

 

[Deleted member]

What's bad about it? Looked fine in the direct.

Unreliable is the best way to describe it. You are not going to get your preferred rules in quick play. Want 1v1? Too bad, free for all. You can try battle arenas, but then that’s just more finicky and is just a sign that the online is broken to the point where you have to switch to this. There are other problems too, like how character selection works.

 

[ZephyrZ]

What's bad about it? Looked fine in the direct.

Even if you set your preferred rules, you aren't always likely to get them. Those of us who prefer 1vs1 matches keep getting thrown into 4-player free-for-alls.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Even if you set your preferred rules, you aren't always likely to get them. Those of us who prefer 1vs1 matches keep getting thrown into 4-player free-for-alls.

Sounds rough. Then again, I'm fine with either.

 

[Deleted member]

Just play offline or with switch friends if the online mode sucks so much.

 

[Impa4Smash]

**** legal stages.
They ruin the fun even when the competitive scen has battlefield and final destination mode.

They ruined Dracula’s Castle by making it hazardless.

Well don’t play Dracula’s Castle then lol. It is what is. Sakurai probably didn’t put them because many people dislike hazards

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Well don’t play Dracula’s Castle then lol. It is what is. Sakurai probably didn’t put them because many people dislike hazards

Honestly never understood why people dislike hazards.

 

[Deleted member]

Disregarding the online talk for a moment, it’s still pretty crazy to me that John Persona5 himself is in smash now. I’m still taking that fact in.
Wait I said that I left didn’t I? ****.
Uh, you didn’t see these posts.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly never understood why people dislike hazards.

Me neither.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Disregarding the online talk for a moment, it’s still pretty crazy to me that John Persona5 himself is in smash now. I’m still taking that fact in.
Wait I said that I left didn’t I? ****.
Uh, you didn’t see these posts.

To be honest I could care less about him. Never played a Persona game in my life.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Oh dear god, poor Nia!

here i come, ready or gormotti

 

[Zinith]

I'm watching a Jacksonville tourney where the Wall is competing...

 

[Opossum]

**** legal stages.
They ruin the fun even when the competitive scen has battlefield and final destination mode.

They ruined Dracula’s Castle by making it hazardless.

I'd prefer to fight on stages with varied layouts, but I don't want to fight the stage itself to do so.

 

[Idon]

Just play offline or with switch friends if the online mode sucks so much.

What ****ty reasoning.

Have you considered that the reason why we play online is because we aren't able to have friends over whenever we want?
Do you not think that if we had friends with us right now, we would be playing with them instead of being forced to use this ****ty online?

Honestly never understood why people dislike hazards.

Because some people like to play matches where the players' skill is the primary determinant of victory rather than someone getting lucky or unlucky.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm watching a Jacksonville tourney where the Wall is competing...

*transition to a literal wall playing Smash Ultimate with telepathy*

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, a lot of characters in Smash you could say an unplayable role fits them, or that they don't belong on the battlefield. Peach always gets kidnapped, now we have Piranha Plant too (who is generic). Ice Climbers are two kids in parkas, and Villager is just some kid with his toys LOL (and R.O.B. is an actual toy!)

While none of them have Isabelle's pacifist nature (save for Peach maybe), a character's personality shouldn't prevent them from being playable. Isabelle is a rising star in her series, she's popular, and she's fun to see fight. If Isabelle is blocked from fighting just because "it's not who she is!" then that just limits the creativity of picks.

Dude. I was only asked why I was anti-Isabelle and I answered.

I don't need some debate on the way I feel and how I'm wrong. That's why I became so anti-Isabelle in the first place.

 

[Deleted member]

What ****ty reasoning.

Have you considered that the reason why we play online is because we aren't able to have friends over whenever we want?
Do you not think that if we had friends with us right now, we would be playing with them instead of being forced to use this ****ty online?

Switch friend codes.

Use them.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Honestly never understood why people dislike hazards.

Personally speaking, they ruin a stage for me. It’s an added element that takes away from the fun of the fight

 

[Iridium]

I'm watching a Jacksonville tourney where the Wall is competing...

Oh, I haven't heard of him playing in a long while. For U.S. Yoshi mains, I wonder what Raptor will do in Ultimate. Have a link?

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Dude. I was only asked why I was anti-Isabelle and I answered.

I don't need some debate on the way I feel and how I'm wrong. That's why I became so anti-Isabelle in the first place.

With all due respect, he didn't say anything rude. Just his point of view on the matter. Just like how you stated yours.

 

[Wyoming]

**** legal stages.
They ruin the fun even when the competitive scen has battlefield and final destination mode.

They ruined Dracula’s Castle by making it hazardless.

How the heck did they ruin it?
If hazards were an issue we wouldn't have gotten Great Plateau or New Donk City with stage gaps in the same game.

Sakurai made a decision to only have them cameo. It has nothing to do with stage legality, especially since Dracula's Castle isn't even a viable stage due to its shape and size.