Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Arcanir]

Sylux to me feels to me like putting the cart before the horse. It has existed previously and even had a playable appearance (which is admittedly rare in the franchise), but when you get down to it they are essentially a nothing character relying almost completely on promises that have not delivered yet. Outside of that Hunters appearance where it was one character among many, the only thing its done is stalk Samus in one cameo and steal a Metroid in another, that's it, and since there's no payoff to any of that yet it feels like it's just all buildup with nothing to show for it.

That's why despite being a Metroid fan Sylux barely excite me when discussion is on him. Right now it's all focused on 'it's going to be important we promise!', and that's not interesting when it comes to Smash. It's hard to care about something that's going to be important over something that is currently important. For example, with Dixie Kong she never felt like the conversation is warped around a character's reliance on an upcoming game that's just a title at the moment, instead you have people talking about a character that has long since established herself and people want her for what she's done and what she can do. Sylux I feel needs to be a more concrete character like that, or at least prove itself to bring something to the table despite its lack of characterization at the current time, because as of right now its presence hinges too much on possibilities rather then certainties.

 

[ChronoKatie]

I think at this stage, my top 5 most wanted would be Crono, Sora, Skull kid, Sylux and Banjo. Anyone else?

 

[Sestetz]

GIVE. ME. METAL. FACE.

Fixed that for you

If only

 

[zeldasmash]

Y'know what screw Smash.
THIS is the best thing we'll see at TGA

So yeah, I asked @RiversCuomo if he would be down to introduce the first-ever live performance of Devil Trigger. And he said yeah, that sounds pretty cool. So see you on Thursday! pic.twitter.com/IKWlZ7iXfZ

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) December 3, 2018

The darkest of night falls around my soul
And the hunter within loses control ​

Yeah, this alone is enough reason to watch.

 

[Idon]

AH- HEH- HEH- HEH- HEH- HEM.

Yeah, if Sakurai could just...
like...

take every character in Hyrule Warriors and turn them into Smash characters, that'd be great.

 

[Deleted member]

GIVE. ME. METAL. FACE.

Fixed that for you

his stage entrance is just him ****ing goring fiora and throwing her aside to a group of mechon who eat her for the duration of the battle

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Y'know what screw Smash.
THIS is the best thing we'll see at TGA

So yeah, I asked @RiversCuomo if he would be down to introduce the first-ever live performance of Devil Trigger. And he said yeah, that sounds pretty cool. So see you on Thursday! pic.twitter.com/IKWlZ7iXfZ

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) December 3, 2018

The darkest of night falls around my soul
And the hunter within loses control ​

No offense, but who's that?

 

[Bionichute]

my biggest want for dlc is no thrid party chracters but that's not gonna happen and after that is waddle dee which also isn't going to happen

so after that my biggest want is no generic avatar characters like villager

which won't happen either

 

[staindgrey]

wait hold the phone does fe warriors have clones in it

its even worse than i thought oh my god

Yes. But that's not the worst of it.

It employs a weapon triangle that's actually much more important than in FE itself. You can't send your guys to areas where they're weak or they will die when left alone. Yet the only lance users available in the base game are all three Pegasus Knights, meaning if they even come within eyesight of a group of archers they'll die. If a map has both swords and archers in the same area (happens a lot) you have to forego the advantage or risk a sudden ****up because the AI decided to wander.

This is remedied of course. Through DLC. Where they have two lance cavalry. For some reason.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

If only

When Metal Face joins the battle, Alfonso is in charge of the plains
Alfonso: "Leave it to me!"

 

[Bionichute]

Yes. But that's not the worst of it.

It employs a weapon triangle that's actually much more important than in FE itself. You can't send your guys to areas where they're weak or they will die when left alone. Yet the only lance users available in the base game are all three Pegasus Knights, meaning if they even come within eyesight of a group of archers they'll die. If a map has both swords and archers in the same area (happens a lot) you have to forego the advantage or risk a sudden ****up because the AI decided to wander.

This is remedied of course. Through DLC. Where they have two lance cavalry. For some reason.

this game sounds like a trainwreck glad i just stuck with hyrule warriors

 

[Idon]

No offense, but who's that?

Lead Vocalist, guitarist, and songwriter of the Amercan band "Weezer."
Here's their, beeeeeeeeeest cover.

I don't give a **** about their music. but LIVE DEVIL TRIGGER THOUGH

 

[TheCJBrine]

Skull Kid is the best Zelda character and Tingle is...uh...top 10.

I will die on this hill.

 

[monadoboy]

My thing-I-wish-for-from-the-Game-Awards-even-though-it-won't-happen-shutup-let-me-dream is more (and better) DLC for Fire Emblem Warriors.

And I will quote this post if we actually get it.

That, or HW 2, would be amazing, but

I really, really want Xeno Warriors

 

[ClaTheBae]

No offense, but who's that?

Most famous member of Weezer. He's their lead vocalist and guitarist.

How do people not know this.

 

[staindgrey]

this game sounds like a trainwreck glad i just stuck with hyrule warriors

Honestly it's still very fun to play. It's specifically the Fates-heavy cast and story, then the stuff I just mentioned, that are problems. It's actually much more tactical and fulfilling than Hyrule Warriors in terms of gameplay, IMO.

But, in terms of fan service and extra content, Hyrule Warriors is so much better. Not even a competition.

 

[Untouch]

the problem with zelda is that, outside of the big 3, there arent many reoccuring characters

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

My thing-I-wish-for-from-the-Game-Awards-even-though-it-won't-happen-shutup-let-me-dream is more (and better) DLC for Fire Emblem Warriors.

And I will quote this post if we actually get it.

We're going to get Fire Emblem Warriors 2 at Fire Emblem Expo in May.

And I will quote this post if we actually get it.

Honestly it's still very fun to play. It's specifically the Fates-heavy cast and story, then the stuff I just mentioned, that are problems. It's actually much more tactical and fulfilling than Hyrule Warriors in terms of gameplay, IMO.

But, in terms of fan service and extra content, Hyrule Warriors is so much better. Not even a competition.

I agree with this. Fire Emblem Warriors was fun to play, it's just that it was plagued with roster issues, and that wasn't even solely Koei Techmo's fault as Nintendo forced them to include some characters (Lyn specifically, there could've been others). If they make a second one and add on to the roster with more Shadow Dragon, Radiant Dawn/PoR or Shadows of Valentia, and Blazing Sword with Eirika and Ephraim being there similar to how Celica and Lyn were in the first one, it'll be an amazing game.

 

[Deleted member]

I’d rather all echoes be unique in a perfect world cause very character can be distinct, but I know echoes are ways to get in character s that would never be in otherwise. Like, I saw a really cool unique black shadow idea months ago, but I accept that an echo is the only way he’s getting in and it’s a perfectly fine role.

(Also I’m going to sleep so I can’t respind)

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Rule of Quads

Geno
Banjo and Kazooie
Heihachi Mishima or Jin Kazama

Dang it. Too early

 

[Deleted member]

I remember Fire Emblem Warriors. It was okay.

It'd be 10x better if it had Ike and Hector, but nope.

 

[Blargg888]

Aw man, all the cool Squad Strike videos got pulled from YouTube.

Man, I cannot wait for Sauad Strike. Honestly one of the coolest things added to Ultimate, IMO.

 

[Bionichute]

Most famous member of Weezer. He's their lead vocalist and guitarist.

How do people not know this.

because i only listen to kirby music and tokusatsu theme songs

 

[Deleted member]

When Metal Face joins the battle, Alfonso is in charge of the plains
Alfonso: "Leave it to me!"

Shulk: "You will know the pain and suffering you caused the Emperor and Fiora!"
Alfonso: "Leave it to me, Monado Boy!"

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Delete Please

 

[Saetanigera]

Here's the true list of DLC Characters:
First they add Tracer.
Then they will add Widowmaker as the second DLC Character.
Then Bastion, but he will get nerfed.
Then Winston.
And lastly Genji.

Seperate those out over the next 3 smash games and we have a deal.

 

[ClaTheBae]

are people posting that GARBAGE Weezer cover of Africa?

On MY Smashboards?

 

[DarthEnderX]

The darkest of night falls around my soul
And the hunter within loses control ​

Gotta let it out, gotta let it out.

 

[Deleted member]

That, or HW 2, would be amazing, but

I really, really want Xeno Warriors

I'd be down with it. I like Xenoblade, so chopping through hordes of enemies as Shulk, Elma, or Rex would be fun.

Besides, I believe the Xenoblade community would treat their Warriors game 50x better than Fire Emblem did lol.

 

[What Ganon's Up To]

Most famous member of Weezer. He's their lead vocalist and guitarist.

How do people not know this.

Weezer are arguably way past their best work and not that relevant to a younger audience these days.

I'm sure Rivers himself has secret access to the Fountain of Youth or something though, he still has that nerdy college kid look!

 

[Idon]

are people posting that GARBAGE Weezer cover of Africa?

On MY Smashboards?

That's WHY I'm posting it.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd be down with it. I like Xenoblade, so chopping through hordes of enemies as Shulk, Elma, or Rex would be fun.

Besides, I believe the Xenoblade community would treat their Warriors game 50x better than Fire Emblem did lol.

What did the FE community do?

 

[Bionichute]

What did the FE community do?

say game bad i guess

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

What did the FE community do?

They got reasonably mad at the lack of Ike and Roy...

 

[monadoboy]

this game sounds like a trainwreck glad i just stuck with hyrule warriors

It's really good, imo. I enjoyed it as much as HW
The clones are a result of characters being more class based than weapon based like in HW.
The game has some heavy improvements over HW, like dashing after dodging which makes going back to HW a pain, and the support system makes using many characters much more rewarding.
Oh, and costumes are a billion times better than in HW, as they're actual costumes rather than a vast majority of them being simple palette swaps

The fan service, while great, doesn't match HW, but Hyrule Warriors was just insanely good in that department.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I want a Mushroom Kingdom Warriors game, and it let's you play as Paper Mario, Dimentio, Count Bleck, Tippi...

...Goomba, Chain Chomp, King Boo...

...and the mascot of Plant Gang himself.

 

[Deleted member]

They got reasonably mad at the lack of Ike and Roy...

Why was Ike not in the big Warrior crossover? Isn't he like a major character?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Super Smash Warriors

 

[Bionichute]

Why was Ike not in the big Warrior crossover? Isn't he like a major character?

the game only covered like 3 games plus its ocs, people got kind of angry over that

 

[Deleted member]

What did the FE community do?

Oh nothing, aside from go ape-**** at the fact that the cast primarily consisted of Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates characters, and the only two OG characters where Lyn and Celica. I admit I was disappointed at the lack of Ike and Hector in the game, but some of those people got really pissy about it, especially the people over at Serenes Forest. Everytime a thread with new info came up, it turned into a warzone. It was hilarious lol.