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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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He would be cool, but then again, he could also just be another clone.
The Links have banded together to beat up the Marths in terms of sheer numbers.
Then for a Between Worlds
link-a-like
rep we could have Ravio.
He fights with only the items and doesnt use a sword, so not an anime swordsman
 

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Lol get out with Master Chief dude has 0 relevance it would be a win for Microsoft and a lose for Nintendo as he promotes NOTHING Nintendo related
Steve isn't as likely as he once was. He's not even likely at this point.
Why ISN'T Banjo alive is the question.
Because Banjo isn't alive as a franchise. The most he has is some merchandise, but that's about it.
Also don't say steve isn't likely, because now he is because you said it ;v
 

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Considering that this 1 future is the one they win in, and is the one Infinity War 2 will likely follow....
Don't give up.
I was planning on posting it if Sora got revealed, but it was too good to pass up. I've got some fresh memes ready though for when if Sora gets disconfirmed though.
 

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Because Banjo isn't alive as a franchise. The most he has is some merchandise, but that's about it.
Also don't say steve isn't likely, because now he is because you said it ;v
You realize the big DLC talk right now is about a character from a franchise that appears to be dead and who has a dead fanbase right?
This just doesn't stop Banjo, sorry.
 

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Apparently, Sandbag can grabbed now, like in Melee (I'm late):


Next to useless, but eh.
Next to useless my ass, I always disliked that I couldn’t practice throw combos on Sandbag. God bless this change.
Here's another thing to talk about:

Fatmanonice has been talking about another character (not the SE rep) that oldschool fans will appreciate but newer fans will either dislike or not know about. Here are some pertinent comments:



I'm guessing this character would be a popular pick for Brawl, Melee, or even 64 speculation. The idea that it's been off people's radars for years disconfirms the recent popular picks, and apparently people thought it would never happen so that skews it towards third parties or characters seen as unlikely compared to others. The character also apparently has a support thread from one of the speculation periods, and is unrelated to the SE rep.

Any thoughts? The only character I can personally think of would be James Bond.
Some character that will make me smile but not much else probably.
PolarPanda says the character isn't verified, but they gave us a hint.
Based on what I’m hearing, Lloyd seems to fit the bill the best. Which I’d be fine with, but KOS-MOS is a way more interesting pick and I’d be disappointed to see her lose out.
 

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Geno and Banjo still have hope.
Lloyd probably isn't the L character because his fanbase still thrives.
I don't know what a Phantom Mouse is.
There's one shill pick, and one people won't be upset about.
Lloyd's fanbase has never really been there though.

Remember all the crazy **** VashTehStampede VashTehStampede pulled during Ultimate's speculation period? It was to drum up Lloyd discussion because it never really happened. It was always "oh yeah, he's cool, but if Namco gets a second rep it'll likely be Heihachi, and that's only if they get a second rep."

Lloyd fits the criteria perfectly, and will likely be in this game.
 
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I'll go ahead and say it: no, at least not right now. There's no direct promotional characters on the table right now (IE; tied to one specific, unreleased game). Like I said, the one potential shill character is not even a bad pick. It's a "oh, cool I guess..." and not "**** SAKURAI AND HIS ENTIRE GENETIC LINEAGE!"
Can you at least spill some small thing related to charcter with L?

Like, I'm thinking that it may be lugia but it's not due to how its size look like if they were playable character.
 

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Hey all, been avoiding this place until Ultimate releases but I've been curious about this whole Polar Panda stuff. Anyone got a quick summary of their claims?

also seeing "boomer pick" as a description for a potential character is hilarious
 

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Lloyd's fanbase has never really been there though.

Remember all the crazy **** VashTehStampede VashTehStampede pulled during Ultimate's speculation period? It was to drum up Lloyd discussion because it never really happened. It was always "oh yeah, he's cool, but if Namco gets a second rep it'll likely be Heihachi, and that's only if they get a second rep."

Lloyd fits the criteria perfectly, and will likely be in this game.
Can't really agree; dude ****ing rocked that reddit poll. Lloyd was decently big during the Ultimate speculation.
I will agree though that in the end it came down to "he's cool but Heihachi's more likely"

I do think L is Lloyd, but what a weird hint.
 

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I'll go ahead and say it: no, at least not right now. There's no direct promotional characters on the table right now (IE; tied to one specific, unreleased game). Like I said, the one potential shill character is not even a bad pick. It's a "oh, cool I guess..." and not "**** SAKURAI AND HIS ENTIRE GENETIC LINEAGE!"
Can you answer me something: Is a Microsoft character in ..or better yet...is rayman in?
 

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Facts:
Lloyd starts with two Ls, giving him double the chance of making it in.
It's simple math, guys.
 
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Agree that I wouldn’t really describe Lloyd as a dead fanbase character. Sure, people though Heihachi was more likely, but Lloyd was still often brought up.
 

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Lol in what world is Lloyd a boomer pick with a dead fanbase dude's more alive than ever

Weird hint
Llyod is a boomer pick in the Smash Community if you were here lurking back in brawl, for JRPG third parties the big names were
Cloud (A.K.A mister never ever who got in first lmao) was in everyone top 10 dream characters
Geno
Crono
Llyod
And a blooming fanbase for Sora.

Geno's fanbase survived.
Crono and Llyod vanished.
Llyod's fanbase got a spike and revive during the ballot like Geno and Sora
Cloud got's in.
Llyod and Geno got Mii costume'd
Geno's fanbase grew bigger and bigger
Llyod's fanbase is just...Kinda here, he's a characters people want, but not support actively
Crono took Cloud's place of "Mister never ever"
 

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Can anyone give me a summary of what we are looking at?

-A square character (one of the 6 we know about)
-2 Namco characters (?)
-Previously popular pick with L as their starting name?

So confused where this starts.
 

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Llyod is a boomer pick in the Smash Community if you were here lurking back in brawl, for JRPG third parties the big names were
Cloud (A.K.A mister never ever who got in first lmao) was in everyone top 10 dream characters
Geno
Crono
Llyod
And a blooming fanbase for Sora.

Geno's fanbase survived.
Crono and Llyod vanished.
Llyod's fanbase got a spike and revive during the ballot like Geno and Sora
Cloud got's in.
Llyod and Geno got Mii costume'd
Geno's fanbase grew bigger and bigger
Llyod's fanbase is just...Kinda here, he's a characters people want, but not support actively
Crono took Cloud's place of "Mister never ever"
This makes sense. Thanks for explaining Nekoo.
 

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>We might live in a world where the trinity of JRPG that is

Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest/ Chrono Trigger
Tales of

Are together in a game crossover about Nintendo.

Let that sink for a second of how great it would be.
Honestly if Lloyd gets in that makes me think Erdrick is more likely given that they're considered the big three JRPGs. That's too good to pass up.

Sora was shot down and the company rallied to get him in to be shut down, Normura or someone else might've caused some complications in an attempt to make a power play for Sora only to sour negotiations. Dragon Quest made it in the door and got approved, and Geno sat in the lobby until he was told to go home.
 
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Can anyone give me a summary of what we are looking at?

-A square character (one of the 6 we know about)
-2 Namco characters (?)
-Previously popular pick with L as their starting name?

So confused where this starts.
No 2 namcos really
The L is probaly a hint to any of the 4 fighters outside of the SE rep
 

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Can anyone give me a summary of what we are looking at?

-A square character (one of the 6 we know about)
-2 Namco characters (?)
-Previously popular pick with L as their starting name?

So confused where this starts.
A Square Enix character, the L character, and a shill pick no one would be upset with.
 

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No 2 namcos really
The L is probaly a hint to any of the 4 fighters outside of the SE rep
Ah okay. Ugh, why cant "Insiders" just be straight with people. This cryptic baiting is honestly worse than some fake leaks tbh.

A Square Enix character, the L character, and a shill pick no one would be upset with.
Oh the L and shill pick are separate? Thats interesting.
 
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Anyone can have a name that starts with an L if you misspell it hard enough.
 

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Honestly if Lloyd gets in that makes me think Erdrick is more likely given that they're considered the big three JRPGs. That's too good to pass up.

Sora was shot down and the company rallied to get him in to be shut down, Normura or someone else might've caused some complications in an attempt to make a power play for Sora only to sour negotiations, Dragon Quest made it in the door and got approved, and Geno sat in the lobby until he was told to go home.
That damn Erdrick boy never leaves my psyche
 
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Llyod is a boomer pick in the Smash Community if you were here lurking back in brawl, for JRPG third parties the big names were
Cloud (A.K.A mister never ever who got in first lmao) was in everyone top 10 dream characters
Geno
Crono
Llyod
And a blooming fanbase for Sora.

Geno's fanbase survived.
Crono and Llyod vanished.
Llyod's fanbase got a spike and revive during the ballot like Geno and Sora
Cloud got's in.
Llyod and Geno got Mii costume'd
Geno's fanbase grew bigger and bigger
Llyod's fanbase is just...Kinda here, he's a characters people want, but not support actively
Crono took Cloud's place of "Mister never ever"
Eh, the wording Fatmanonice used is definitely exaggerating that a bit. People have wanted Lloyd for a while, but ‘figured it’d never happen’? ‘Off the radar’? Ehhhhh
 

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>We might live in a world where the trinity of JRPG that is

Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest/ Chrono Trigger
Tales of

Are together in a game crossover about Nintendo.

Let that sink for a second of how great it would be.
okay but where's mara
 

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Facts:
Lloyd starts with two Ls, giving him double the chance of making it in.
It's simple math, guys.
You guys gotta remember that if one sword has 100 power, then Lloyd has 200 power! Therefore, Lloyd has a 200% chance of making it into the game!

This is why you work hard in school instead of going off to save two worlds.
 

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I'm looking at Lloyd's debut date, It said that he debuted in 2003, on tales of series.

Is that even considered "Boomers" pick?

It seems like more zoomer there unless some people born before 1997 has to be teen around that time. it have to be old character then. (No L BLock please.)
 

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Eh, the wording Fatmanonice used is definitely exaggerating that a bit. People have wanted Lloyd for a while, but ‘figured it’d never happen’? ‘Off the radar’? Ehhhhh
When you talk about Namco Rep, to this days and before Pac-man reveals?
Either Pac-man or Heihachi.
Llyod was always looked over and said like "Eh. Not happening, Tekken first."
 
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