Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Smash could definitely get a reveal, even if it isn’t gameplay. With it being the night before it releases in North America, I would expect maybe a launch trailer, but then absolutely hint at a new DLC character.

For those of you who remember the Negan reveal for Tekken, think of something like that but with Smash.

A nice launch trailer, but maybe the flaming Smash logo zooms out a little bit, and then you just see:

- some guy with the keyblade
- some red sword and a welsh dude saying, “Let’s show then a thing or three!”
- Sephiroth walking out of flames, heading toward the Smash logo

Anything like that COULD happen, but it would stand out as different from any Smash reveal in its history. It’s typical of other fighting games though, so I wouldn’t entirely rule it out.

My prediction is that if there IS a DLC reveal, it will be a 3rd party character that a lot of people would know.

Then again, I do feel that a Metroid Prime reveal of some sort would be fitting, but I also feel like Nintendo would save that...Bayonetta 3 could also work. I mean, I don’t think it’s entirely out of the question that there’s more than one reveal. I just don’t know how likely it would be.

This style would definitely make sense. I don’t think a gameplay reveal is out fo the question though. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sakurai also stated back in smash 4 that hey hadn’t worked on DLC prior to the game releasing, but then only half a year or so later we got Mewtwo. If sakurai’s statement about fighers taking, at minimum, 8 months of dev time to make is true then they must have worked on Mewtwo prior to the game releasing. Furthermore, if a square character is revealed at TGA, then negotiations must have started months in adavance, which would also long up with Vergeben’s leak timeframe. Around June is when I’m guessing. If this is the case, then it would make sense if they got a head-start on the character, enough to give them a gameplay trailer. Those are just my two-cents anyway.

 

[GoeGoe]

Nintendo applied for three new trademarks, Wii, Fossil Fighters and The Last Story.
Anyone thinks a rep from those games will be one of those 5 DLCs?

 

[Deleted member]

From what I remember Marvel had wanted the entire Fantastic Four playable along with Human Torch giving issues so Super Skrull was just a much better option at that point

Yes.

And while Super Skrull is cool too, i feel like Sakurai would be able to make the Fantastic Four playable and even in a way that many people would find cool.

If i learned something after seeing how he worked with Megaman and Simon Belmont, is the fact that he knows how to make the mechanics and attributes of many franchises work great in Smash.

If done right, he could make wonderul stuff with the first family.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

What about something that appeals to the straight female audience? Fair is fair.

Sure! Any ideas?

 

[Iridium]

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— Glacey (@_glacey) December 1, 2018

It feels pretty much impossible to say MK is worse at this point. I want to try this out myself.

To see if this really works, of course.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

If Smash bros Ultimate gets a mobile game tie in, it's still gonna be better than Sega Heroes

 

[Deleted member]

Sure! Any ideas?

Metroid, Doom 2016, Smash Ultimate, Megaman 11, Sonic Mania, Spider-Man PS4, God Of War, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta and literally every other wonderful and fantastic game that exists.

There you go.

 

[Kuon]

Pretty much. Big bouncing boobs in 3D is basically the series' mission statement.

And having their clothes fall off as they get hurt

 

[RyuhoFox]

Sure! Any ideas?

Senran got ya covered there too. Introducing Murasame.

And having their clothes fall off as they get hurt

Yes that is super important

 

[Kuon]

I am fine with anyone. except Madden Player as an Activision rep.

I would find Crash the coolest pick for me, but everyone else would be dope too.

lol I don't think we have to worry about a Madden player. Not that Activision would be likely to get a rep anyway

 

[Deleted member]

If Smash bros Ultimate gets a mobile game tie in, it's still gonna be better than Sega Heroes

What’s the point of SEGA Heroes when SEGA has the cool iniciative of SEGA Forever on phones already?

Why play a phone crossover with microtransactions, when you have a collection of the wonderful games the characters come from on the same platform already and for free?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So, I don’t think this is anything... but...
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Disney struck a WoL video. There’s a day 1 patch. Game Awards is one day before release. Could this be Sora? (Again, I don’t think so, but a lot of my friends are losing their minds over this, so I thought I would pitch this onto here).

People REALLY seem to forget how easy it is for people to flag videos, with companies content ID-ing videos they don't even own. Disney did that before iirc, Nintendo panickingly just searched for "Super Smash Bros Ultimate" video during the purge and we'll see it again in the future

 

[Flyboy]

For the first Marvel character, i am between these three options:

-Iron Man: one of the most popular characters created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, with a potential for a moveset and cool alternate costumes.

-The Fantastic Four: If done right, the moveset could mix each member into one character (maybe using the Thing as the main base, and the other three as special moves), making a distinctive and unique moveset. These characters made Marvel what it is today, and Stan Lee wanted to see them first getting in the MCU from all the Fox properties before passing away. Sakurai could also pull a Megaman on them, which would help a lot.

-Spider-Man: the biggest character made by the company, created by Stan Lee and used in 95% of Marvel’s media as a whole. One of the most likely.

I want to quickly talk about the X-Men: while the team was created by Stan Lee, Wolverine itself wasn’t. I wouldn’t put him as the first Marvel rep and more so after Stan Lee’s death. If Marvel gets a rep in Smash, the first should be one created by Stan Lee, as a small tribute to him. Wolverine can join after that, of course.

If they made a PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale 2 I would bet money on Spider-Man being one of the first characters announced and I would eat it up.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Nintendo applied for three new trademarks, Wii, Fossil Fighters and The Last Story.
Anyone thinks a rep from those games will be one of those 5 DLCs?

Probably not... they're likely just renewing their copyright on those properties like they did with Golden Sun and Rhythm Heaven...

 

[Kuon]

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Senran got ya covered there too. Introducing Murasame.



Yes that is super important

Oh yeah, I remember him! I think he's Ikaruga's brother. I remember she fought him in the anime

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

What’s the point of SEGA Heroes when SEGA has the cool iniciative of SEGA Forever on phones already?

Why play a phone crossover with microtransactions, when you have a collection of the wonderful games the characters come from on the same platform already and for free?

Sega forever isn't even that good...

 

[osby]

Yes.

And while Super Skrull is cool too, i feel like Sakurai would be able to make the Fantastic Four playable and even in a way that many people would find cool.

If i learned something after seeing how he worked with Megaman and Simon Belmont, is the fact that he knows how to make the mechanics and attributes of many franchises work great in Smash.

If done right, he could make wonderul stuff with the first family.

But Mega Man and Simon come from platforming games, like Smash. Adding characters from comic books is entirely different.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I’m wondering, how many fighting games have done an ‘everyone is here’ thing?

The answer is, "Not enough of them."

 

[LetterO]

Nintendo revealed both the Bayonetta ports + Bayonetta 3, AND the Champion DLC. You all be acting like it's only gonna be one or the other with the Game Awards when we could very well get a DLC reveal AND Prime 4 news.

 

[Deleted member]

Any great and fantastic game can be played by anyone.
Nothing should target a specific public.

And Senran Kagura, from what i heard, is a game that plays well, just with a peculiar style.

Seriously, anyone can play the games they want to. Senran Kagura probably isn’t the exception.

Sega forever isn't even that good...

Better than SEGA Heroes for sure, tbh.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Sure! Any ideas?

Well, shirtless hunks in every game is a good start.

 

[beans]

If they made a PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale 2 I would bet money on Spider-Man being one of the first characters announced and I would eat it up.

I would love if they tried that again, but actualy developed it in-house and got some recognizable third party IPs deeply associated with Sony, like DMC (do not confuse with DmC) and Crash Bandicoot.

 

[Deleted member]

I’m thinking MP4 is likely to show up at TGA anyway, alongside a prime trilogy port.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Any great and fantastic game can be played by anyone.
Nothing should target a specific public.

And Senran Kagura, from what i heard, is a game that plays well, just with a peculiar style.

Seriously, anyone can play the games they want to. Senran Kagura probably isn’t the exception.


Better than SEGA Heroes for sure, tbh.

You seriously cannot compare a crossover bejeweled clone to a bunch of retro games.

 

[Deleted member]

“Metal Gear Solid is a franchise that uses historical elements a lot in the plot. It must be targeting the market of history educators!”

“Spyro uses stuff from medieval tales and folklore. It must be marketed towards people who are into the medieval stuff!”

“Mario Odyssey is about exploration and travelling the world. It must be pandering to explorers and tourist!”

And i could go on.

 

[Iridium]

I love how that hardcover Ultimate guide literally has more pages than any novel I've had to read in school so far. If I can only read this if I can't get a Switch in time, then so be it.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Oh yeah, I remember him! I think he's Ikaruga's brother. I remember she fought him in the anime

Yep. He's even playable in Senran Kagura 2. Only time in the series you can play as a male character iirc.

 

[Deleted member]

I love how that hardcover Ultimate guide literally has more pages that any novel I've had to read in school so far. If I can only read this if I can't get a Switch, then so be it.

Sakurai: Putting more effort than the Education System 24/7.

 

[Deleted member]

You seriously cannot compare a crossover bejeweled clone to a bunch of retro games.

As a marketing decission, yes.
SEGA Heroes is pointless and lackluster even when compared to stuff like Fire Emblem Heroes or Final Fantasy Record Keeper.

 

[Kuon]

Yep. He's even playable in Senran Kagura 2. Only time in the series you can play as a male character iirc.

The one on the 3DS? I played that one but didn't know you could play as him

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

Nintendo revealed both the Bayonetta ports + Bayonetta 3, AND the Champion DLC. You all be acting like it's only gonna be one or the other with the Game Awards when we could very well get a DLC reveal AND Prime 4 news.

I know, why some people are acting like showing something from Nintendo is unprecedented is really beyond me. I have a feeling that they could show three things again for The Game Awards again this year. They’ve been doing it ever since the TGAs started and has become such bigger thing now.

Nintendo always seem to have something shown off there, it’s very likely for us to get Metroid, Bayonetta, and Smash Ultimate DLC. It’s practically a repeat of last years Game Awards for them. I get not wanting to set up expectations and everything, but I don’t see how it’s that unlikely.

 

[Iridium]

Sakurai: Putting more effort than the Education System 24/7.

Really though. I have no idea how much character info and artwork managed to get crammed in about 463 pages.

Well, it could be more than just that, but I don't even know what's in it.

 

[RyuhoFox]

The one on the 3DS? I played that one but didn't know you could play as him

Yep that one. He is either a free unlock with save data from the previous game or DLC from what I remember.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

The one on the 3DS? I played that one but didn't know you could play as him

Wait, Deep Crimson, is on 3DS? How have I not heard of this before?

 

[hazza5557]

Todd Howard jokes are funny because he's a weird little man and encourages this perception of him. The FO76 stuff was bad but I don't have enough of a connection to anything Bethesda does to feel strong emotion out of it. Todd is just...a character.

Okay, hypothetical time. If the fighters pack were five characters from a single series, what series' would you be fine with that happening to, and who would your choices be?

I'd be fine with a Fire Emblem pack as discussed earlier in the thread but one that comes to mind is a Street Fighter pack. Chun-Li, Dan, M. Bison, Vega, and Sakura would be worth it for me. Full bias.

Mario, Sonic, Kirby, Pokemon, Zelda or Street Fighter are probably the only ones with 5 realisable characters left.
Mario: Waluigi, Toad, King Boo, Kamek and Birdo
Sonic: Tails, Shadow, Knuckles, Eggman and Amy
Pokemon: Decidueye, Gen 8 starter, Eevee, Gardevoir and Lycanroc
Zelda: Impa, Skull Kid, Midna, Tingle and Urbosa
Street Fighter: Chun Li, Akuma, M Bison, Zangief and Cammy

Donkey Kong and Kirby might have 5 at a stretch as well.

 

[Fenriraga]

So now that Ultimate is in the open, are we gonna get more character emotes?

Because I need Female /Green in my life.

 

[Iridium]

So now that Ultimate is in the open, are we gonna get more character emotes?

Because I need Female /Green in my life.

As much as I prefer male Corrin, the female Corrin icon should be here soon. It couldn't hurt to use the individual Ivysaur/Charizard/Squirtle and Mii Gunner/Brawler/Swordfighter ones either.
At least we know they exist.

 

[osby]

So now that Ultimate is in the open, are we gonna get more character emotes?

Because I need Female /Green in my life.

I hope we get all Villagers and Inklings. They are obviously different characters.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Because I need Female /Green in my life.

Yup, and that's all I need in life...

 

[Deleted member]

I want the Meta Ridley, Leaf and Violent Ken emotes.

And i would like to hear your thoughts on this:

If Nintendo made a deal with LEGO to release a Blind Bag series of Collectable Minifigures themed about Smash Ultimate, would you try to get every figure?