Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Luigi The President]

Was there some kind of coding thing in the game that suggested more than 5 DLC characters? I've been seeing something like that thrown around a lot recently.

Edit: I guess I mean 6 since I forgot about

There are 30 empty slots in the code.
Basically it just means if they choose to pursue DLC further they have 30 slots already to go off of.

 

[SvartWolf]

You say that, but I don't see Sephiroth chucking pebbles he you.

Besides, if you want a villain, have I got a guy to sell you:
Vayne Carudas Solidor

The only villain in the entire goddamn franchise that just straight up punches you in the face.
He's also a politician, so I guess Final Fantasy's version of Senator Armstrong.

Unpopular opinion... but FFXII gotta be one of my favorites in the series... Really liked the combat and really liked the 3 protagonist and 3 support characters plot structure.

i once tried to play dissidia in a friends psvita...

i didnt understand anything :D

Honestly if Dissidia had a fun looking gameplay i would love to give it a try.

>Joker
>Not Demi-fiend
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C'mon Svart.
Why must you do this to me?

Gomenasaiii XD

Honestly though.. ive seen curiously support for joker in smash picking up on teh strangest places ever Though XD

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

You uncultured people keep forgetting about one of the best Square villains.

Spoiler

Mitochondria Eve

 

[Saetanigera]

Blizzard Pack:
Diablo
Li Ming
Tyrael
Queen of Blades
Zeratul

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

I ****ing swear, if I have to deal with this because it was a bunch of people's first JRPG, I'll be personally blaming all of you for this mess.

Fine. We'll be able to settle it in Smash anyway.

 

[praline]

I guess if I got to choose the 5 dlc characters it’d be like 5 people that nobody outside of big nintendo fans would know lol


Also I’m really into th idea of Psaro being playable now lol

 

[A.G.L.]

It's gotta be the OG. Or plot twist, both, but those are the only 2 tracks for the stage

What if its a mixture between the two that could be really interesting. And if that happens that would be really lame ha.

Neither.
This is my favourite version of the song:

I have to admit that one does sound great, I would really miss the electric guitar version. However if this one was added I wouldn't mind it.

 

[praline]

Was there some kind of coding thing in the game that suggested more than 5 DLC characters? I've been seeing something like that thrown around a lot recently.

Edit: I guess I mean 6 since I forgot about

Allegedly there’s spots for 30 dlc characters

You uncultured people keep forgetting about one of the best Square villains.

Spoiler

View attachment 180165Mitochondria Eve

Parasite Eve representation would be pretty cool honestly

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Allegedly there’s spots for 30 dlc characters

DLC SEASON 2-6 CONFIRMED

 

[Flyboy]

You know, now that we know who the possible SE reps are, wouldn't finding out what rumor "ruffled SE's feathers" be the best way to discern which character it is? The "ruffled feather" rumor is still a thing, right?

FEATHERS ARE ON WINGS
ONE WINGED ANGEL
CONFIRMED

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Does anyone have access to the characters "sprites" for the game? I want their neutral poses for an art project I want to work on. (I want to do a Shovel Knight-esque Body Swap Mode series of drawings for Ultimate).

I know the game isn't out yet, so people probably can't actually get me them, but any ideas on how to get me my reference pics when it's released would also be welcome.

 

[Eru13]

DLC SEASON 2-6 CONFIRMED

lol, how good would that be...
But nah, most of those slots will (sadly) never get used

 

[SvartWolf]

Out of curiosity if Sephiroth is in. What version of One Winged Angel will they use? My personal favorite is the Advent Children version as that electric guitar part is amazing.

The Regular Version

The Advent Children Version

Regular One winged angel is cool and all... but i really would love an actual remix of that song.... wonder if remixing FF songs is completely out of teh question?

Blizzard Pack:
Diablo
Li Ming
Tyrael
Queen of Blades
Zeratul

albeit Starcraft and Diablo are the coolers Blizzard Ips... seems to be missing a little bit of warcraft XD aaand activision would also be part of a pack (with at least crash bandicot )

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Out of curiosity how likely is it that we will find out the first DLC at The Game Awards? I know Spawn Wave has spoken of the possibility if im not mistaken. So is it possible we will know the second SE rep in just a few more days?

If we don't get that second Nintendo direct this month like he predicted, you may want to temper your faith and expectations.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Ah, man I really want Geno playable, but I also really want to listen to One Winged Angel on a FF stage

That would be absolutely

 

[T3Z3R1]

Evidence! Where's the damn evidence!?

not sure, but he just admitted and he didn't prove some evidence on how did he do it.

he's still asshole, I see.

 

[LetterO]

So Geno now suddenly has a good chance again? I'm happy but damn he keeps flip flopping to likely to not likely back to likely.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

If we don't get that second Nintendo direct this month like he predicted, you may want to temper your faith and expectations.

Gah, I had completely forgotten about that second direct. Doesn't seem like it is happening though.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

There are 30 empty slots in the code.
Basically it just means if they choose to pursue DLC further they have 30 slots already to go off of.

Allegedly there’s spots for 30 dlc characters


Parasite Eve representation would be pretty cool honestly

Hot damn!

One can dream that it actually goes on that long. I somehow doubt it will though. Still, it's good to be prepared just in case.

 

[praline]

Hot damn!

One can dream that it actually goes on that long. I somehow doubt it will though. Still, it's good to be prepared just in case.

Honestly I don’t expect 30 every happening. At most, and this being the best case scenario, we would get 3 seasons of 5 characters.

Likeliest being 2 seasons.

 

[KMDP]

Out of curiosity if Sephiroth is in. What version of One Winged Angel will they use? My personal favorite is the Advent Children version as that electric guitar part is amazing.

The Regular Version

The Advent Children Version

See this post I made a little bit ago.

I imagine that if Sephiroth was the SE character, the songs he'd bring would be One-Winged Angel and Birth of a God.

Possibly the two One-Winged Angel variants (AC and CC) if Sakurai really wants to stretch it.

 

[Dee Dude]

Sephiroth ain’t happening imo,

1. FF itself only has two ripped songs, unless Square is trolling us by giving a buck load of more content with him which I highly.

2.He would the the first 3rd Party villian adder which would be kinda weird for get one before etc.

Not surprising there, turned out that MTP admitted to create the grinch leak

Found on random stream that prob got reported by him

Didn’t that jerk say he didn’t make it? Unless he lied about that.

Guess I shouldn’t too shocked, this is the same idiot that bought a thousand amiibos just to spite her fans. (ironically giving Nintendo money making them push her more)

Going through all that trouble completely separating the characters, drawing the newcomers by scratch, framing two companies and ruining a man’s name for a sick prank would just prove he’s a psychopath.

 

[WolfCypher]

Do you agree with their list?

Eh...

Personally, my favorite 5 trailers/reveals of all Smash time have been

Spoiler

Honorable Mention

Rosalina Trailer (4)
This is technically my favorite trailer of all time, just due to how adorable Kirby and the Luma are, and Donkey Kong (his facial expressions) poking Kirby. But as far as hype goes, I was happy Rosalina made it in, but that fact didn't set my world on fire...

Five

Cloud (4)
Not since the world-changing, mind-blowing reveal of Snake in Brawl was I ever taken by as much of a surprise of a character reveal as Cloud's. The only reason this doesn't rank higher, to be honest, is because I had quit Smash 4 before Cloud's announcement, so it was a cool moment, but it felt flat, knowing personally I was not coming back to this installment of Smash, so...

Four

Greninja & Charizard reveal (4)
I'm being honest here; Smash 4's "hype train" did nothing for me. I enjoyed almost all the trailers, but felt very little enthusiasm for any of the characters themselves. Even the Smash 4 website was a downer compared to the substantial Brawl Dojo before. So when the 50 Facts Extravaganza ended with a trailer, I, like many, thought the mystery character being teased was going to be Mewtwo. I was blown away when it was Greninja instead (one of my fave 6th Genners). I never even considered it could be a playable rep for Smash 4. This was honestly the single, only trailer that got me excited for Smash 4.

Three

Simon reveal (Ultimate)
I've admitted that I honestly didn't realize (despite HOW OBVIOUS IT WAS FIVE SECONDS IN) that this was a Castlevania trailer until right when Death showed up. So what shouldn't have been a surprise, was to me. Anyway I thought the trailer was very good, Simon and Richter looked awesome (their models) and looked fun to play, and it just kept going, and going. Everything looked good, and it made me change mind on the subject of Castlevania content; once upon a time, I was indifferent to the idea of Simon (or anything Castlevania) being repped in Smash, after this trailer, I was on board. And after finally seeing actual, full gameplay of Simon/Richter, I plan on playing him/them.

Two

King K. Rool reveal (Ultimate)
This trailer did not catch me off-guard. Literally, at the end of Sakurai's direct, when the screen started shaking and you could hear stomping in the background, I knew this was going to be K. Rool's debut. And when they started to show Nintendo heroes vs. their villains/rivals, it became painstakingly obvious (if I was too stupid to see the Castlevania referrences at the start of the Simon reveal, I felt the same for others [no offense] if by this point, no one thought maybe KKR...) Despite not being surprised at all, this trailer was just too fun and too energetic not to make it my 2nd favorite trailer ever. And I'm biased; King K. Rool was my Ridley. I wanted him since Brawl, and after this long, he's here! And his trailer did not disappointed. Even if I didn't care for this character, like I said, this trailer was just too awesome in quality to not me a fave of mine.

One

Super Smash Bros. Brawl Debut Trailer (Brawl)
Smash 64 didn't have any pre-hype. It just kinda happened, and came out. Melee had me excited, but it was also so close to the Gamecube's pre-release and release, that most of my excitement for Melee was probably blurred with my hype for the next big Nintendo system. Smash 4's debut trailer left me wondering "that's it???", and Ultimate's trailer I enjoyed, but only AFTER it ened (I was just soooooo stressed watching it, hoping Wolf and the Ice Climbers would show up or not, wondering who ELSE got cut, how much or how little would we be able to have confirmed in this first trailer, was King K. Rool showing up). After EVERYONE IS HERE dropped halfway through, I was able to give off a relieved sigh, and just enjoyed the damn thing.

But Brawl's debut trailer was special, and nothing Smash has surpassed it yet. For me anyway. I had wanted Pit in Melee, and it didn't happen. Not only was he the 2nd newcomer confirmed, they gave him an incredible redesign. He can split his bow into dual blades! He has lightning fast arrows you can bend and steer and control after firing them! I wanted another Kirby rep in Melee, and it didn't happen. Then Meta-Knight was the first newcomer confirmed. I wanted Super Moves to make it into a Smash game. Final Smashes were confirmed in this trailer.

And the biggest holy **** bombshell was the unexpected, unteased reveal of Snake in Smash. When people fantasied 3rd-party characters, no one imagined Snake. No one could have seen someone like Snake, a grizzled realistically proportioned human with guns from a serious (mostly) franchise about war, violence, cloning, and government conspiracies, with very limited history with Nintendo, in a party fighter with cartoony mascots like Mario and Pikachu. Sonic? Of course. That was everyone's number one pipedream, and he would have fit in the cast perfectly. So Snake came out of absolutely no where, and we will never get a heart-stopping surprise like that, ever again. In fact, this actually made Sonic's eventual reveal seem paltry by comparison; you can't capture that lightning in a bottle twice, and like I said, Sonic felt like a no-brainer (doubly so after Snake pretty much "opened the floodgates"...if Snake of all characters got into Smash, SURELY Sonic had to be next, so it felt less like a shocker, and more like an inevitability. Snake stole the "Sonic" Thunder...) Cloud would echo this, but even he and his reveal couldn't match Snake's.

This is my absolute favorite Trailer/Reveal in Smash history.

 

[Graizen]

Bruh Tekken is huge money. Why not go with their best selling franchise

Becouse Tekken never made more money than Digimon, search it

 

[Luigi The President]

Do you agree with their list?

Eh...

Personally, my favorite 5 trailers/reveals of all Smash time have been

Spoiler

Honorable Mention
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Rosalina Trailer (4)
This is technically my favorite trailer of all time, just due to how adorable Kirby and the Luma are, and Donkey Kong (his facial expressions) poking Kirby. But as far as hype goes, I was happy Rosalina made it in, but that fact didn't set my world on fire...

Five
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Cloud (4)
Not since the world-changing, mind-blowing reveal of Snake in Brawl was I ever taken by as much of a surprise of a character reveal as Cloud's. The only reason this doesn't rank higher, to be honest, is because I had quit Smash 4 before Cloud's announcement, so it was a cool moment, but it felt flat, knowing personally I was not coming back to this installment of Smash, so...

Four
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Greninja & Charizard reveal (4)
I'm being honest here; Smash 4's "hype train" did nothing for me. I enjoyed almost all the trailers, but felt very little enthusiasm for any of the characters themselves. Even the Smash 4 website was a downer compared to the substantial Brawl Dojo before. So when the 50 Facts Extravaganza ended with a trailer, I, like many, thought the mystery character being teased was going to be Mewtwo. I was blown away when it was Greninja instead (one of my fave 6th Genners). I never even considered it could be a playable rep for Smash 4. This was honestly the single, only trailer that got me excited for Smash 4.

Three
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Simon reveal (Ultimate)
I've admitted that I honestly didn't realize (despite HOW OBVIOUS IT WAS FIVE SECONDS IN) that this was a Castlevania trailer until right when Death showed up. So what shouldn't have been a surprise, was to me. Anyway I thought the trailer was very good, Simon and Richter looked awesome (their models) and looked fun to play, and it just kept going, and going. Everything looked good, and it made me change mind on the subject of Castlevania content; once upon a time, I was indifferent to the idea of Simon (or anything Castlevania) being repped in Smash, after this trailer, I was on board. And after finally seeing actual, full gameplay of Simon/Richter, I plan on playing him/them.

Two
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King K. Rool reveal (Ultimate)
This trailer did not catch me off-guard. Literally, at the end of Sakurai's direct, when the screen started shaking and you could hear stomping in the background, I knew this was going to be K. Rool's debut. And when they started to show Nintendo heroes vs. their villains/rivals, it became painstakingly obvious (if I was too stupid to see the Castlevania referrences at the start of the Simon reveal, I felt the same for others [no offense] if by this point, no one thought maybe KKR...) Despite not being surprised at all, this trailer was just too fun and too energetic not to make it my 2nd favorite trailer ever. And I'm biased; King K. Rool was my Ridley. I wanted him since Brawl, and after this long, he's here! And his trailer did not disappointed. Even if I didn't care for this character, like I said, this trailer was just too awesome in quality to not me a fave of mine.

One
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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Debut Trailer (Brawl)
Smash 64 didn't have any pre-hype. It just kinda happened, and came out. Melee had me excited, but it was also so close to the Gamecube's pre-release and release, that most of my excitement for Melee was probably blurred with my hype for the next big Nintendo system. Smash 4's debut trailer left me wondering "that's it???", and Ultimate's trailer I enjoyed, but only AFTER it ened (I was just soooooo stressed watching it, hoping Wolf and the Ice Climbers would show up or not, wondering who ELSE got cut, how much or how little would we be able to have confirmed in this first trailer, was King K. Rool showing up). After EVERYONE IS HERE dropped halfway through, I was able to give off a relieved sigh, and just enjoyed the damn thing.

But Brawl's debut trailer was special, and nothing Smash has surpassed it yet. For me anyway. I had wanted Pit in Melee, and it didn't happen. Not only was he the 2nd newcomer confirmed, they gave him an incredible redesign. He can split his bow into dual blades! He has lightning fast arrows you can bend and steer and control after firing them! I wanted another Kirby rep in Melee, and it didn't happen. Then Meta-Knight was the first newcomer confirmed. I wanted Super Moves to make it into a Smash game. Final Smashes were confirmed in this trailer.

And the biggest holy **** bombshell was the unexpected, unteased reveal of Snake in Smash. When people fantasied 3rd-party characters, no one imagined Snake. No one could have seen someone like Snake, a grizzled realistically proportioned human with guns from a serious (mostly) franchise about war, violence, cloning, and government conspiracies, with very limited history with Nintendo, in a party fighter with cartoony mascots like Mario and Pikachu. Sonic? Of course. That was everyone's number one pipedream, and he would have fit in the cast perfectly. So Snake came out of absolutely no where, and we will never get a heart-stopping surprise like that, ever again. In fact, this actually made Sonic's eventual reveal seem paltry by comparison; you can't capture that lightning in a bottle twice, and like I said, Sonic felt like a no-brainer (doubly so after Snake pretty much "opened the floodgates"...if Snake of all characters got into Smash, SURELY Sonic had to be next, so it felt less like a shocker, and more like an inevitability. Snake stole the "Sonic" Thunder...) Cloud would echo this, but even he and his reveal couldn't match Snake's.

This is my absolute favorite Trailer/Reveal in Smash history.

Would you mind naming the list Mojo gave so we can rank it much easier?

 

[A.G.L.]

See this post I made a little bit ago.

That Crisis Core version is interesting, I hadn't really payed attention to it until you pointed it out. If they do add a Crisis Core variant of One Winged Angel then I really hope they add a remix of The Price Of Freedom, as that song would be amazing.

 

[LetterO]

Do you agree with their list?

Eh...

Personally, my favorite 5 trailers/reveals of all Smash time have been

Spoiler

Honorable Mention
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Rosalina Trailer (4)
This is technically my favorite trailer of all time, just due to how adorable Kirby and the Luma are, and Donkey Kong (his facial expressions) poking Kirby. But as far as hype goes, I was happy Rosalina made it in, but that fact didn't set my world on fire...

Five
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Cloud (4)
Not since the world-changing, mind-blowing reveal of Snake in Brawl was I ever taken by as much of a surprise of a character reveal as Cloud's. The only reason this doesn't rank higher, to be honest, is because I had quit Smash 4 before Cloud's announcement, so it was a cool moment, but it felt flat, knowing personally I was not coming back to this installment of Smash, so...

Four
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Greninja & Charizard reveal (4)
I'm being honest here; Smash 4's "hype train" did nothing for me. I enjoyed almost all the trailers, but felt very little enthusiasm for any of the characters themselves. Even the Smash 4 website was a downer compared to the substantial Brawl Dojo before. So when the 50 Facts Extravaganza ended with a trailer, I, like many, thought the mystery character being teased was going to be Mewtwo. I was blown away when it was Greninja instead (one of my fave 6th Genners). I never even considered it could be a playable rep for Smash 4. This was honestly the single, only trailer that got me excited for Smash 4.

Three
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Simon reveal (Ultimate)
I've admitted that I honestly didn't realize (despite HOW OBVIOUS IT WAS FIVE SECONDS IN) that this was a Castlevania trailer until right when Death showed up. So what shouldn't have been a surprise, was to me. Anyway I thought the trailer was very good, Simon and Richter looked awesome (their models) and looked fun to play, and it just kept going, and going. Everything looked good, and it made me change mind on the subject of Castlevania content; once upon a time, I was indifferent to the idea of Simon (or anything Castlevania) being repped in Smash, after this trailer, I was on board. And after finally seeing actual, full gameplay of Simon/Richter, I plan on playing him/them.

Two
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King K. Rool reveal (Ultimate)
This trailer did not catch me off-guard. Literally, at the end of Sakurai's direct, when the screen started shaking and you could hear stomping in the background, I knew this was going to be K. Rool's debut. And when they started to show Nintendo heroes vs. their villains/rivals, it became painstakingly obvious (if I was too stupid to see the Castlevania referrences at the start of the Simon reveal, I felt the same for others [no offense] if by this point, no one thought maybe KKR...) Despite not being surprised at all, this trailer was just too fun and too energetic not to make it my 2nd favorite trailer ever. And I'm biased; King K. Rool was my Ridley. I wanted him since Brawl, and after this long, he's here! And his trailer did not disappointed. Even if I didn't care for this character, like I said, this trailer was just too awesome in quality to not me a fave of mine.

One
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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Debut Trailer (Brawl)
Smash 64 didn't have any pre-hype. It just kinda happened, and came out. Melee had me excited, but it was also so close to the Gamecube's pre-release and release, that most of my excitement for Melee was probably blurred with my hype for the next big Nintendo system. Smash 4's debut trailer left me wondering "that's it???", and Ultimate's trailer I enjoyed, but only AFTER it ened (I was just soooooo stressed watching it, hoping Wolf and the Ice Climbers would show up or not, wondering who ELSE got cut, how much or how little would we be able to have confirmed in this first trailer, was King K. Rool showing up). After EVERYONE IS HERE dropped halfway through, I was able to give off a relieved sigh, and just enjoyed the damn thing.

But Brawl's debut trailer was special, and nothing Smash has surpassed it yet. For me anyway. I had wanted Pit in Melee, and it didn't happen. Not only was he the 2nd newcomer confirmed, they gave him an incredible redesign. He can split his bow into dual blades! He has lightning fast arrows you can bend and steer and control after firing them! I wanted another Kirby rep in Melee, and it didn't happen. Then Meta-Knight was the first newcomer confirmed. I wanted Super Moves to make it into a Smash game. Final Smashes were confirmed in this trailer.

And the biggest holy **** bombshell was the unexpected, unteased reveal of Snake in Smash. When people fantasied 3rd-party characters, no one imagined Snake. No one could have seen someone like Snake, a grizzled realistically proportioned human with guns from a serious (mostly) franchise about war, violence, cloning, and government conspiracies, with very limited history with Nintendo, in a party fighter with cartoony mascots like Mario and Pikachu. Sonic? Of course. That was everyone's number one pipedream, and he would have fit in the cast perfectly. So Snake came out of absolutely no where, and we will never get a heart-stopping surprise like that, ever again. In fact, this actually made Sonic's eventual reveal seem paltry by comparison; you can't capture that lightning in a bottle twice, and like I said, Sonic felt like a no-brainer (doubly so after Snake pretty much "opened the floodgates"...if Snake of all characters got into Smash, SURELY Sonic had to be next, so it felt less like a shocker, and more like an inevitability. Snake stole the "Sonic" Thunder...) Cloud would echo this, but even he and his reveal couldn't match Snake's.

This is my absolute favorite Trailer/Reveal in Smash history.

I like how Isabelle is above Duck Hunt even though everyone saw her from a mile away.

 

[praline]

Do you agree with their list?

Eh...

Personally, my favorite 5 trailers/reveals of all Smash time have been

Spoiler

Honorable Mention
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View attachment 180151
Rosalina Trailer (4)
This is technically my favorite trailer of all time, just due to how adorable Kirby and the Luma are, and Donkey Kong (his facial expressions) poking Kirby. But as far as hype goes, I was happy Rosalina made it in, but that fact didn't set my world on fire...

Five
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Cloud (4)
Not since the world-changing, mind-blowing reveal of Snake in Brawl was I ever taken by as much of a surprise of a character reveal as Cloud's. The only reason this doesn't rank higher, to be honest, is because I had quit Smash 4 before Cloud's announcement, so it was a cool moment, but it felt flat, knowing personally I was not coming back to this installment of Smash, so...

Four
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Greninja & Charizard reveal (4)
I'm being honest here; Smash 4's "hype train" did nothing for me. I enjoyed almost all the trailers, but felt very little enthusiasm for any of the characters themselves. Even the Smash 4 website was a downer compared to the substantial Brawl Dojo before. So when the 50 Facts Extravaganza ended with a trailer, I, like many, thought the mystery character being teased was going to be Mewtwo. I was blown away when it was Greninja instead (one of my fave 6th Genners). I never even considered it could be a playable rep for Smash 4. This was honestly the single, only trailer that got me excited for Smash 4.

Three
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Simon reveal (Ultimate)
I've admitted that I honestly didn't realize (despite HOW OBVIOUS IT WAS FIVE SECONDS IN) that this was a Castlevania trailer until right when Death showed up. So what shouldn't have been a surprise, was to me. Anyway I thought the trailer was very good, Simon and Richter looked awesome (their models) and looked fun to play, and it just kept going, and going. Everything looked good, and it made me change mind on the subject of Castlevania content; once upon a time, I was indifferent to the idea of Simon (or anything Castlevania) being repped in Smash, after this trailer, I was on board. And after finally seeing actual, full gameplay of Simon/Richter, I plan on playing him/them.

Two
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King K. Rool reveal (Ultimate)
This trailer did not catch me off-guard. Literally, at the end of Sakurai's direct, when the screen started shaking and you could hear stomping in the background, I knew this was going to be K. Rool's debut. And when they started to show Nintendo heroes vs. their villains/rivals, it became painstakingly obvious (if I was too stupid to see the Castlevania referrences at the start of the Simon reveal, I felt the same for others [no offense] if by this point, no one thought maybe KKR...) Despite not being surprised at all, this trailer was just too fun and too energetic not to make it my 2nd favorite trailer ever. And I'm biased; King K. Rool was my Ridley. I wanted him since Brawl, and after this long, he's here! And his trailer did not disappointed. Even if I didn't care for this character, like I said, this trailer was just too awesome in quality to not me a fave of mine.

One
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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Debut Trailer (Brawl)
Smash 64 didn't have any pre-hype. It just kinda happened, and came out. Melee had me excited, but it was also so close to the Gamecube's pre-release and release, that most of my excitement for Melee was probably blurred with my hype for the next big Nintendo system. Smash 4's debut trailer left me wondering "that's it???", and Ultimate's trailer I enjoyed, but only AFTER it ened (I was just soooooo stressed watching it, hoping Wolf and the Ice Climbers would show up or not, wondering who ELSE got cut, how much or how little would we be able to have confirmed in this first trailer, was King K. Rool showing up). After EVERYONE IS HERE dropped halfway through, I was able to give off a relieved sigh, and just enjoyed the damn thing.

But Brawl's debut trailer was special, and nothing Smash has surpassed it yet. For me anyway. I had wanted Pit in Melee, and it didn't happen. Not only was he the 2nd newcomer confirmed, they gave him an incredible redesign. He can split his bow into dual blades! He has lightning fast arrows you can bend and steer and control after firing them! I wanted another Kirby rep in Melee, and it didn't happen. Then Meta-Knight was the first newcomer confirmed. I wanted Super Moves to make it into a Smash game. Final Smashes were confirmed in this trailer.

And the biggest holy **** bombshell was the unexpected, unteased reveal of Snake in Smash. When people fantasied 3rd-party characters, no one imagined Snake. No one could have seen someone like Snake, a grizzled realistically proportioned human with guns from a serious (mostly) franchise about war, violence, cloning, and government conspiracies, with very limited history with Nintendo, in a party fighter with cartoony mascots like Mario and Pikachu. Sonic? Of course. That was everyone's number one pipedream, and he would have fit in the cast perfectly. So Snake came out of absolutely no where, and we will never get a heart-stopping surprise like that, ever again. In fact, this actually made Sonic's eventual reveal seem paltry by comparison; you can't capture that lightning in a bottle twice, and like I said, Sonic felt like a no-brainer (doubly so after Snake pretty much "opened the floodgates"...if Snake of all characters got into Smash, SURELY Sonic had to be next, so it felt less like a shocker, and more like an inevitability. Snake stole the "Sonic" Thunder...) Cloud would echo this, but even he and his reveal couldn't match Snake's.

This is my absolute favorite Trailer/Reveal in Smash history.

What were the top 10 for people that don’t wanna watch watchmojo

 

[WaxPython]

Pretty sure it's been stated that cutting trophies was not only decided early on but allowed them to have all this stuff. Tbh I'd rather have all this stuff now then wait a long time just to have trophies

PR Rubbish. No one forced them to rush development, take an extra year to develop the game and include the DLC characters for free while they're at it. Cutting trophies is just because they can't sell them as DLC or market them to kids like they can with Amiibos

 

[Luigi The President]

PR Rubbish. No one forced them to rush development, take an extra year to develop the game and include the DLC characters for free while they're at it. Cutting trophies is just because they can't sell them as DLC or market them to kids like they can with Amiibos

I don't know how to explain to you that Spirits give infinitely more single player value than trophies ever have

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Becouse Tekken never made more money than Digimon, search it

This is an unfair comparison. Digimon is multi media, Tekken is game franchise.

 

[WaxPython]

I don't know how to explain to you that Spirits give infinitely more single player value than trophies ever have

And idk how many times I have to say it but the two are not mutually exclusive you can have both...

 

[Luigi The President]

And idk how many times I have to say it but the two are not mutually exclusive you can have both...

No, you can't.
You cannot have the amount of content this game already does, Spirits included, and also have trophies.

If you want trophies, you're telling me you'd wait probably over half a year for this game to be released.
For some trophies you're gonna look at once and then probably never again. Sorry, but that's just the hard fact of the matter.

You simply can't have both and also have the amount of content this game does.

 

[WolfCypher]

What were the top 10 for people that don’t wanna watch watchmojo

10 Duck Hunt (4)
9 Pac-Man (4)
8 Isabelle
7 Mega Man (4)
6 Cloud (4)
5 King K. Rool
4 Simon
3 Snake (Brawl)
2 Ridley
1 Sonic (Brawl)

 

[Shroob]

10 Duck Hunt (4)
9 Pac-Man (4)
8 Isabelle
7 Mega Man (4)
6 Cloud (4)
5 King K. Rool
4 Simon
3 Snake (Brawl)
2 Ridley
1 Sonic (Brawl)

Cloud under K.Rool and Simon.......I don't even.

 

[praline]

10 Duck Hunt (4)
9 Pac-Man (4)
8 Isabelle
7 Mega Man (4)
6 Cloud (4)
5 King K. Rool
4 Simon
3 Snake (Brawl)
2 Ridley
1 Sonic (Brawl)

How is Cloud so low? Why is Somic so high?

 

[Luigi The President]

10 Duck Hunt (4)
9 Pac-Man (4)
8 Isabelle
7 Mega Man (4)
6 Cloud (4)
5 King K. Rool
4 Simon
3 Snake (Brawl)
2 Ridley
1 Sonic (Brawl)

Very conflicted on this...

Duck Hunt and Isabelle shouldn't even be considered for this list.
Cloud should be at 4 MINIMUM.

 

[WolfCypher]

Its WatchMojo, you never agree with them...

 

[KMDP]

That Crisis Core version is interesting, I hadn't really payed attention to it until you pointed it out. If they do add a Crisis Core variant of One Winged Angel then I really hope they add a remix of The Price Of Freedom, as that song would be amazing.

This is what I'd hope for out of a Sephiroth Pack

• Sephiroth (Character)
• Zack Fair (Echo Fighter for Cloud)
• Aerith Gainsborough (Assist Trophy)
• Planet's Core (Stage)
• Music: One Winged Angel (FF7), One Winged Angel (AC), The World's Enemy, Birth of a God, J-E-N-O-V-A, The Price of Freedom
• Chocobo Mii Costume
• Geno Mii Costume

Unfortunately, we all know we wouldn't get that much.

 

[SvartWolf]

No, you can't.
You cannot have the amount of content this game already does, Spirits included, and also have trophies.

If you want trophies, you're telling me you'd wait probably over half a year for this game to be released.
For some trophies you're gonna look at once and then probably never again. Sorry, but that's just the hard fact of the matter.

You simply can't have both and also have the amount of content this game does.

Still, it would bee nice to have some sort of equivalent of trophies for playable characters, assist trophies, bosses, and basically everything that already have a 3d model in the game.

Guilty Gear xrd did a very cool thing with its playable characters that you could unlock "trophies" of the characters in different poses and pose them on dioramas for taking screenshots. we did kinda had something similar on wiiu, but much more limited, would been cool if we had something as flexible as that Guilty Gear mode :o