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http://sourcegaming.info/2016/02/23/nintendo-dream-interview-with-sakurai-part-2/
Actually, it's not so much an acknowledgement of the backlash as it seems like he already thought that it had too many characters even before Corrin's addition. It obviously didn't stop him from adding Corrin in the end, but he's obviously not oblivious to how extreme its representation is.
You forgot my boy Magnus with his magnum...blade.
Yeah, Sakurai won't just stop putting Fire Emblem... BUT... He'll be more careful selecting the next characters... They really need to stand out to be considered... At least that is my interpretation based in Sakurai's comments.
The approach that Smash 4 had to newcomers kinda feels similar to the approach Gen VII had to new Pokemon. If you look at Gen VII's Pokemon, you'll notice that nearly every evolutionary line either has a unique ability or a signature move.
Doh. Totally forgot she was an AT. And I even read the damn list. Reading comprehension is hard
I disagree, personally I'm really glad they brought Roy back. Roy is really fun to play in Smash 4. The fact that they gave him more uniqueness really helped make him feel better as a character.
I personally prefer Lucina to Roy as a character, but if they could bring back only one, I'd say Roy all the way. Roy may be a clone, but he operates differently, i.e., you can't use the same strategy to fight an opponent as you would Marth. Lucina on the other hand functions just like Marth, save for the tipper, which means my playstyle with her is identical to Marth's.
Not sure the "no new game" completely offs the chances of a character getting in. Who knows, maybe we will get a surprise revival after an unexpected inclusion in Smash (COUGH Kid Icarus COUGH).
What backlash? Corrin obviously had no impact on the sales of the game and plenty of people bought him because he was DLC. There was no protests, no attempt to stop people from buying it, nothing. We may have gotten angry about it for like a day but it doesn’t change the fact that most people bought him anyway.
Unfortunately the common theme has been that either the character is relevant (as in had a recent release), or it's a retro character from way back in the day, Pit was classified as the latter when he was included in Brawl. I'd really love to see someone who's caught in between get in though, like K. Rool, Isaac, or even Starfy like you brought up.
I know it's a long shot, but I want to hope. Besides, maybe Nintendo does have a surprise game in the boxes that just waits to be revealed at E3.
I personally believe Sakurai will be more careful to selecting Fire Emblem Characters, and focusing in getting some interesting traits of them, instead of just filling an "obligatory spot"
I'm hoping Lucina gets cut because having four characters who share the same character archetype and all but one having the same hair color is boring as hell and in the context of Smash she has the least personality of the four. Yeah people talk about how popular she is but it doesn't change the fact that for anybody who isn't a big Fire Emblem fan, Lucina is horribly redundant. Besides Chrom and Alm are popular too but I don't exactly hear anybody here suggesting that those two be added as clones.
Maybe backlash was a strong word, and like I clarified it wasn't really a response to that either way, it was just the best word I could find to describe the fan reaction given that English isn't my native language.
I cam see Isabelle as a semi-clone or having her own unique moves. Let's see how E-3 fares before we can jump on the clone/semi-clone stuff
Actually a few AT didn't return. My gal Barbara *points to avatar* didn't get to jam out on the battlefield. But atleast she was a Mii Hat.
Four characters? Ike is nothing like Marth, Roy, or Lucina, chargeable neutral special and counter aside.
Now hold on a second. This doesn't necessarily mean a Gen VIII Pokemon is what they talked about. It's possible they talked about a Gen VII rep.8th gen
8th gen
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told ya so nerds
I am expecting a few cuts, but I don't know who those characters could be. As for additions, I feel like that all falls on whether or not FE16 gets representation.
Although a lot of us like to complain about the tribalism of Smash character fan bases, speculation for this game has been based a lot more on logos and ethos rather than the pathos of pre-Brawl and pre-Smash 4 and the move to accept recency as the primary criteria for selecting characters has played the biggest role in that, especially since we got Bayonetta as the Ballot character who like K. Rool, Isaac, Banjo, and others had a recent Wii U appearance. Since it's clear that what we say now won't affect the base roster and that Sakurai rejected one of the most popular Nintendo request in Ridley, the shift in the character scene switched from the pathos-influenced "Let's get our favorite characters in!" to the logos and ethos-influenced "Based on who has appeared recently or who hasn't appeared since the Famicom/NES, who is the most likely?" After this game, especially if there's no ballot character outside the Inklings - who would have gotten in regardless - I don't think character advocacy will be much of a thing anymore and this will result in a significant decline in how many people decides to talk and speculate about prospective characters. Think about it, if all we can get for newcomers in future installments are characters from recent games, why bother supporting your long since dead favorite character? I know I wouldn't be here if there weren't several newcomers I wanted that I thought had a shot.
Actually I'm curious, is Sakurai statement noting that Geno was a popular request a hint that he did well in the Ballot? We know Sakurai wanted him for Brawl but I wonder if like supposedly King K. Rool, Geno's Mii Costume was in response to the Ballot. It does, after all, have unique assets to it.
I see. I would have used something like "many fans were disappointed" or "upset" that Sakurai added Corrin.
Of course it's not guaranteed but if we're looking at prominent games of the last and current generation, xenoblade stands out, I'd be shocked if someone from xenoblade doesn't get in since Nintendo are clearly trying to promote it as one of it's big new franchises and there's multiple standout characters that would be easy to implement and fit into smash
Use that logic on Zelda and then realize how messed up that is. Zelda is way more important than FE
It could be worse, he could just not be in it at all.You take that back right now mister.
Takamaru, Isabelle and possibly Dillon would be my choices.
And in the case of K. Rool, he's basically most likely to return to DKC, seeing as a new game has been heavily hinted and the CEO of Retro Studios support his return.
*shrugs* Possibly.
Character wise, Ike falls into the same Fire Emblem hero archtype that Roy, Marth, and Lucina fall into as well as sharing the same typical Fire Emblem Lord hair color as the latter two. That Ike is distinguished from the others by being a muscular, slow-hard hitting type gives him a niche on the roster, not Roy or Lucina. If anything Ike's presense on the roster hurts Lucina somewhat since you have three similar blue haired looking people on the roster competing for attention on the character screen instead of just two even if one of them obviously fights differently.
and * in Melee and Brawl respectively.Considering that Sakurai had planned on including Lucas for two games despite how niche the Mother franchise is, him not bothering to include the flavor of the month for another represented series sounds really out of character, especially given how recently he had done it with Corrin so its something he still takes into account.
Is any game that came to the Wii U going to be considered prominent? I mean most barely got to a million. The Wii U tanked. Why would you want a Smash game to highlight to everyone all the games they didn't want to buy in the first place?
Because they're all getting Switch ports. :V
I mean I guess but the roster was probably decided somewhere in 2016, the wii u and 3ds games of that time are kinda all they have to pull from. And I doubt sakurai would want to create a whole roster out of characters that don't technically exist yet outside of a pokemon rep and possibly a fire emblem one
I'm hoping nobody gets cut. Lucina is a popular Nintendo character. I remember when people loved Super Smash Bros for having the characters they love.
Yes that still happens.
