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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Ivander

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Anyway, DLC Costume wants:

Bowser - Dry Bowser
Link - BOTW Sheikah Armor(I know Sheik's design now uses the BOTW Design, but I like Link's Sheikah armor design alot and it was my MVP Armor)
Ganondorf - BOTW Gerudo Voe Armor
Toon Link - Pajamas
Samus - Fusion Suit
Fox - Alternate inspired by Fox's father James
Ness - Robot Ness/Pajamas Ness
Lucario - Shiny Lucario
Marth - FEH's Legendary Marth design
Roy - FEH's Brave Roy design
Robin - Grandmaster
Lucina - As said before, too many to count. But my most wanted would be Cipher's Exalt Lucina or Yukata Lucina.
Chrom - FECipher's Exalt Chrom design
Corrin - New Year's Corrin, applied to both Corrins.
Pit - Three Sacred Treasures, especially now that it's not his Final Smash
Shulk - Eryth/High Entia armor
Ryu - Bearded Ryu
Ken - Rathalos Armor Alt - It's Canon! https://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1578/15787979/3355390-4061121559-ffc36.jpg
Simon - Chronicles look
Richter - Dracula Chronicles X look or Symphony of the Night look.
 

Zeox

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Oh, quick thing. I hope everyone excited to play K.Rool doesn't get their hopes up from the "Good mobility" claims as he y'know. Moves slower than DK. I have no clue where people got that from tbh
I was able to main Bowser and Junior, I don't fear K. Rool.
 

Cutie Gwen

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I was able to main Bowser and Junior, I don't fear K. Rool.
It's cause I'm chatting on Discord and me and my friends are seeing MORE people say K.Rool has good mobility. Like, ok yeah he has a crazy recovery especially for the second heaviest character in the game, he has armour up the wazoo although it can break him, he kills early in general and has 2 moves that bury opponents which would leave to good as hell set ups, but he is NOT fast AT ALL. Meanwhile Bowser has armour on everything and runs like a ************
 

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I saw on reddit that someone's reporting that certain Assist Trophies and Pokeballs can't appear on some stages:

- Palkia won't spawn on Spear Pillar
- The Moon won't spawn on Great Bay
- Klap Trop won't spawn on Jungle Japes

...we have a precedent to remove Assist Trophies and Pokemon from the rotation! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
Ohhhhh ****.
HAPPENING STATUS: IT'S
 

osby

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It's not.

It's time to Chrom. It's Chrom time.
Chrom Time,
C'mon grab your supports,
We're going to very
distant outrealms. With
Chrom the Lord and
Chrom the Lord,
The fun will never
end, it's Chrom
Time!
 
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Yes, I do support Zoe for Smash.
Jab: A standard 3-hit combo: left paw strike, right paw strike, and an overhead swipe with both paws.

F-Tilt: Swings a microphone in front of her.

Up-Tilt: Spins a scarf above her, similarly to Palutena’s up-tilt.

Down-Tilt: Rolls forward. Can be used quicker in succession than Dedede’s roll, but deals less damage and slightly higher knockback.

N-Air: Kicks with her front and back paws, damaging fighters both in front of her and behind her.

F-Air: A quick 2-hit swipe of her claws.

Back-Air: Slams the microphone used in her F-Tilt into any fighters behind her. Has a very slight windbox.

Up-Air: Whips the scarf used in her Up-Tilt straight upward.

Down-Air: Charges for a moment, then swings her tail down. Has a meteor effect right when she swings.

Grab: Grabs a foe and pummels them with a coat hanger.

F-Throw: Throws the grabbed opponent forward, quickly following up with a barrage of sequins.

Back-Throw: Throws the grabbed opponent backward and kicks them away.

Up-Throw: Throws the grabbed opponent upward and slices them with her claws.

Down-Throw: Slams the grabbed opponent down, burying them.

Get-Up Attack: Fires 2 quick bursts of sequins on either side of her.

Ledge Attack: Fires a burst of sequins in front of her. Slightly stronger than her Get-Up Attack.

F-Smash: Quickly extends a microphone stand forward.

Up-Smash: Quickly extends a microphone stand upward.

Down-Smash: Swings the scarf she uses for her Up-Tilt and Up-Air in a circle around her. Has a slight windbox.

STANDARD SPECIAL: Strike a Pose!

Strikes a pose in place, damaging and launching nearby foes. If you hold the button, small shockwaves will be sent out on either side of Zoe, but this leaves her vulnerable to anyone who blocked the pose attack.

SIDE SPECIAL: Highest Note

Shoots a mid-low range, music note shaped projectile. It doesn’t deal much damage but has the second-highest knockback of any projectile, second only to Mega Man’s F-Smash.

UP SPECIAL: Spinnerrific Recovery

Zoe spins in an upward tornado motion, gaining height while also pushing opponents away. When used on the ground, this becomes a damaging move where she spins in place.

DOWN SPECIAL: Pocket Mirror

Zoe uses a pocket mirror to reflect projectiles at 1.5x the power and speed. If used when a fighter is right in front of Zoe, it does a small amount of damage but no knockback.

FINAL SMASH: Down the Runway

Like other characters with cutscene Final Smashes, Zoe attempts to trap fighters with an attack and, if successful, triggers the cutscene. For Zoe, the trapping attack is a dress rack that rolls onto the stage from the foreground, and the cutscene is her dazzling the trapped fighters with her runway moves. After the cutscene ends, the trapped fighters are launched.
Damn you're really into this Zoe for Smash thing aren't you
 

Opossum

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If we get costume DLC, here's what I'd want:

- Fire Mario comeback
- Major Circuit Little Mac comeback
- Legendary Marth or Groom Marth
- Great Lord Chrom
- Actual shiny Greninja
- Santa suit for K. Rool, so he can be Kris K. Ringle
 

TheCJBrine

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
 

beans

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Do we have any reasons why shinies arent a pallete for most of the pokemon?
Incineroar has his so what is the reason?
 

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I wonder if it'll cost more or less to get the Smash 4 amiibo after the reprints start shipping again...
 

FreeFox

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So, to summarize, besides the complete list of spirit matches and all the ways to unlock characters, everything in the game has been leaked?
 
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Do we have any reasons why shinies arent a pallete for most of the pokemon?
Incineroar has his so what is the reason?
Game Freak is weird and oddly stingy with skins for some reason
 
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PsySmasher

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I don't know if it was fake or not but I saw a screenshot where it was wrote that Spirits doesn't have the possibilities to get back to life (implying that no dlc for them). Did anyone saw this screenshot ? It was like a screen of a video related to smash.
There is a reason with the context of the game that proves this reasoning to be false.. but it would be a spoiler.
 

Idon

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
Oh ****, anyone but Sephiroth.
Even if you cut that sword down to a 1/2 of it's length it's still so huge.
 

Cutie Gwen

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was ANOTHER person who photoshopped something to make it look like Verge. Someone did that recently with one of the mods here to pretend they were legit
 

beans

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
Interesting that the only FF character in the list is Sephiroth, from FF7.
He will come with his iconic battle theme, FF7 generic battle music.

Edit: aylmao Erdick
 
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JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
Oof...a shame that I don't trust leakers anymore.
 

Mega Bidoof

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So, to summarize, besides the complete list of spirit matches and all the ways to unlock characters, everything in the game has been leaked?
Do we have all the modes leaked, if there are any secret modes?

Is there a dedicated Boss Rush mode? Is All-Star back or is it scrapped?
 
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If we get costume DLC, here's what I'd want:

- Fire Mario comeback
- Major Circuit Little Mac comeback
- Legendary Marth or Groom Marth
- Great Lord Chrom
- Actual shiny Greninja
- Santa suit for K. Rool, so he can be Kris K. Ringle
This is my wishlist for that idea:
-Wedding Peach
-Samus Returns Samus
-Metroid Prime 2 Samus
-Metroid Prime 2 Dark Samus
-Super Metroid Samus
-Justin Bailey Zero Suit Samus
-Fusion Suit Samus
-Mr.L Luigi
-Chronicles Simon Belmont
-Ninten Ness
-SA2 Sonic
-Classic Pit
-Twilight Princess Link
-Yarn Yoshi
-Detective Pikachu
-Shiny Mewtwo/Armored Mewtwo
-Evil Ryu
 

FreeFox

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Do we have any reasons why shinies arent a pallete for most of the pokemon?
Incineroar has his so what is the reason?
The Pokémon Company are pretty controlling of their IP. There is a reason there are no pokemon in Mario Kart.
 

Flyboy

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Chrom Time,
C'mon grab your supports,
We're going to very
distant outrealms. With
Chrom the Lord and
Chrom the Lord,
The fun will never
end, it's Chrom
Time!
Chrom along with me
And the units and vulnaries
We can battle through the forest
And S-rank all we please
Chrom along with me
To a kingdom under a tree
Where we can gaze upon the water
Our chance no more a dream
 

beans

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Oh ****, anyone but Sephiroth.
Even if you cut that [redacted] down to a 1/2 of it's length it's still so huge.
Sephiroth has a big weapon.
It's size is awe strucking
 
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monadoboy

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
I'd be incredibly hyped for Sephiroth if it meant One Winged Angel got into the game, like it ****ing should.

Edit: oh, I class changed to Smash Lord. What promotion bonus do I get?
 
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Flyboy

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Fingers crossed for Crono but I can't deny that Sephiroth being in Smash with One Winged Angel would be ABSOLUTELY SICK
 

Jovahexeon Joranvexeon

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If the missing 4 theory is correct (I hope it is because my most wanted is one of the 4), who do you think the 5th character could be? I think Monster Hunter is very possible.
I'd reckon Phoenix Wright would be quite on the table for such, especially given the current circumstances.
 

potato69

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So, it seems that in the Geno thread we have a DM or something from Vergeben about the SE character list, so I guess he feels safer about sharing them, at least privately. No pictures were shown, but it seems to have been verified with other members there (not me, I just looked through the pages).

This is apparently all of the names Vergeben has heard:

-Erdick
-Luminary/DQ 11 protagonist
-Slime
-Sephiroth
-Crono
-Geno
-Sora

Supposedly he was out-right told that it wasn't Sora, and for Geno to not take him too seriously.

You can see it talked about in the last few or so pages of the Geno thread, I dunno.
Out of those, if we rule out Sora and Geno, I think Slime would be the best choice. I'm probably just biased, though. Crono would be sick.
Also Erdick lmao
 
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