Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Polan]

Ah Steve. We barely knew ya.

Steve is the character, Banjo is the Mii costume.

"Never leak my game again"

 

[Idon]

Yay, misinformation!

This is the type of **** that makes me really hope that Sakurai and his team start making patch notes for this game.
We do not need another episode of "Hey, guys, it feels like this character got buffed! :D"

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Btw guys, idk how to break this to you, but the Style Savvy spirit is actually on the list.

Afaik, the player character in the first Style Savvy doesn't actually have a name, you're just an employee at the store.

The spirits in this section are listed in chronological order. Raymond Bryce is from Disaster: Day of Crisis, which came out in September 2008, and the first Style Savvy game came out in October 2008. The next spirit I believe is probably from the DS game Beetle King, which came out in 2009. So yeah, this is probably the Style Savvy spirit that people thought was missing.

 

[Iridium]

Steve is the character, Banjo is the Mii costume.

"Never leak my game again"

The Mii Costume then comes with actual voice clips of the duo...

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Steve is the character, Banjo is the Mii costume.

"Never leak my game again"

I dunno they're both quite beloved. Perhaps both would be the mii costumes and Master Chief would be the fighter.

 

[PsySmasher]

Do we know if there’s any type of Boss Rush mode in the game? That’s where could see some of the unusual bosses pop up.

 

[LetterO]

I don't know anything that's been leaked after the Spirits and Mii Costumes (could someone fill me in on that?), however I made a list of all the strange things with Spirits.

-Trace and Kanden from Metroid Prime Hunters have spirits, but not the other hunters, and not Sylux either
-Tibby from RH Megamix isn't a Spirit despite being the main character of his game. Neither is Marshal from RH Fever despite being the same
-Cross from Xenoblade X isn't a Spirit either
-No Piranha Plant Spirit
-No Adeline

 

[Deleted member]

Yay, misinformation!

This is the type of **** that makes me really hope that Sakurai and his team start making patch notes for this game.
We do not need another episode of "Hey, guys, it feels like this character got buffed! :D"

"Guys I think Pac-Man's grab is faster" every single ****ing patch like clockwork.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Hmm, in regards to the Spirits list, does that include Fighter spirits?

 

[Deleted member]

I don't know anything that's been leaked after the Spirits and Mii Costumes (could someone fill me in on that?), however I made a list of all the strange things with Spirits.

-Trace and Kanden from Metroid Prime Hunters have spirits, but not the other hunters, and not Sylux either
-Tibby from RH Megamix isn't a Spirit despite being the main character of his game. Neither is Marshal from RH Fever despite being the same
-Cross from Xenoblade X isn't a Spirit either
-No Piranha Plant Spirit
-No Adeline

Afaik, Palutena’s guidance and some more footage is all that was leaked.

 

[Zeox]

I don't know anything that's been leaked after the Spirits and Mii Costumes (could someone fill me in on that?), however I made a list of all the strange things with Spirits.

-Trace and Kanden from Metroid Prime Hunters have spirits, but not the other hunters, and not Sylux either
-Tibby from RH Megamix isn't a Spirit despite being the main character of his game. Neither is Marshal from RH Fever despite being the same
-Cross from Xenoblade X isn't a Spirit either
-No Piranha Plant Spirit
-No Adeline

Well, Adeleine has never been in any smash in any form, so that's not a surprise.

 

[Iridium]

Hmm, in regards to the Spirits list, does that include Fighter spirits?

Yeah, it includes them.

 

[beans]

The Cloud thing was fake.

Still, we only have four SE spirits: Geno, Mallow and two Clouds.
Compare that to Konami, who bathed in the **** it caused for the last years, and Square isnt the one who looks better.

 

[KMDP]

Time to kick back and reminisce about Smash 4 Meta Knight.

"Reminisce", you say?
Let's listen to some screams.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I don't know anything that's been leaked after the Spirits and Mii Costumes (could someone fill me in on that?), however I made a list of all the strange things with Spirits.

-Trace and Kanden from Metroid Prime Hunters have spirits, but not the other hunters, and not Sylux either
-Tibby from RH Megamix isn't a Spirit despite being the main character of his game. Neither is Marshal from RH Fever despite being the same
-Cross from Xenoblade X isn't a Spirit either
-No Piranha Plant Spirit
-No Adeline

Rhythm Girl hasn't been spotted either...

 

[DJ3DS]

Incredible taste! My main and one of my most anticipated newcomers! How did ROB feel? Any new tech?

I'm a complete novice to the competitive scene so I don't know why I'm asking but hey, I'm just hyped.

ROB feels very fluid now - his Nair in particular is really fast. Down Throw feels like a good change and his lasers have been given a nice buff.

As far as tech, it was 4 player FFA so didn't really get time to practice e.g. glide tossing.

 

[osby]

Steve is the character, Banjo is the Mii costume.

"Never leak my game again"

I'd be hyped for that, tbh.

 

[kirbsmash]

ROB feels very fluid now - his Nair in particular is really fast. Down Throw feels like a good change and his lasers have been given a nice buff.

As far as tech, it was 4 player FFA so didn't really get time to practice e.g. glide tossing.

As for Ice Climbers?

 

[Iridium]

I'd be hyped for that, tbh.

Then a Herobrine alt is added, against everybody's wishes.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, Adeleine has never been in any smash in any form, so that's not a surprise.

When you have the more obscure Gryll as a Spirit, that's actually quite notable of an absence.

 

[MainJPW]

"Reminisce", you say?
Let's listen to some screams.

Thank you for this flattering rendition of Captain Falcon.

 

[Deleted member]

remember when we thought the grinch leak was basically confirmed

 

[Flyboy]

Man, I remember being 16 and yelling at people on an Ace Attorney fan forum.

Video games, man. Video games.

Also, just to summarize some things that may have fallen through the cracks:

1. There is a Style Savvy: Shining Star song in the game. It's a banger. Everybody clap your hands!
2. This song being in isn't unusual, as Wii U had a Style Savvy song in (which I believe is not returning). However, datamines have suggested that this song has ties to a blank stage ID, indicating it was to be attached to a stage that was cut or may be added to a stage in the future.
3. The Stylist from the Girl's Mode 1 box art was shown in the last Smash Direct as a Spirit, appearing in one of those white floating ball segments.
4. That said, when I searched for several Style Savvy names - "Style", "Savvy", Grace (major character in SS DS), Sophie (major character in Fashion Forward), and "Stylist", I was unable to find any.

This is all suspicious but here are some caveats:

1. There have been rumors there are still Spirits encrypted in the data somewhere. I have not seen anyone back this claim up but it's worth noting.
2. I also don't claim to be exhaustive in looking through the Spirits list. It's possible the Stylist is under a different name and I just haven't seen it yet.

Still, I wanted to collect this info both for this thread and the Style Savvy thread. Pretty notable omission when the series is repped through music, she has been seen, and even 1080 Snowboarding, another series with music, has a rep in Akari Hayami.

 

[Polan]

I dunno they're both quite beloved. Perhaps both would be the mii costumes and Master Chief would be the fighter.

"We have completed development on a beloved Rare character: the Pirate from Sea of Thieves. Banjo, Steve and Master Chief will be Mii costumes."

 

[Opossum]

Honestly though, I'm happy that a good amount of my favorite Fire Emblem characters have some form of content here.

Playable: Chrom, Marth
Assist: Tiki
Spirits: The above three, plus Caeda, Merric, Celica (as a joint spirit with Alm), Minerva

Add onto that that most of my other favorites are either kind of present (Hardin is heavily referenced in Nyna's spirit battle), are relatively minor over all (Virion, Lena, Julian), or are from SoV which is weirdly absent spirit-wise (Tobin, Silque, Saber, Mae), and that's pretty great coverage.

Given that, the only weird omissions for me are Frederick and Ogma, since they're fairly major characters in relatively-heavily represented games. Especially Ogma, who is absent despite Bord, Cord, and Barst, his subordinates, being there.

 

[Pyra]

Smash Bros. Anime Opening song

I'd watch it

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

>Looks at past few pages.

Y I K E S

I think we’re uh...better off at least acknowledging that just missing from the spirit list means pretty much nothing dudes. Like yeah, IF Spirits are disconfirmations then all it tells us is who isn’t completely disconfirmed.

It doesn’t make anybody else’s chances better. It would just mean they’re eligible.

I may be misreading the posts but it seems to me that people are taking all of this to imply characters “ARE HAPPENING!!1!” when the absence of a character like Banjo as a spirit makes complete sense.

A list of characters would make sense, with the caveat that this in no way disconfirms them.

 

[MainJPW]

remember when we thought the grinch leak was basically confirmed

I thought we were all just joking around?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I don't know anything that's been leaked after the Spirits and Mii Costumes (could someone fill me in on that?), however I made a list of all the strange things with Spirits.

-Trace and Kanden from Metroid Prime Hunters have spirits, but not the other hunters, and not Sylux either
-Tibby from RH Megamix isn't a Spirit despite being the main character of his game. Neither is Marshal from RH Fever despite being the same
-Cross from Xenoblade X isn't a Spirit either
-No Piranha Plant Spirit
-No Adeline

There’s something you missed that’s even bigger

Porky is not there and all previous bosses from brawl have spirits but not porky even tabuu is a spirit

So why porky exclusion?

 

[Pyra]

remember when we thought the grinch leak was basically confirmed

it's still confirmed

 

[Pakky]

What if Ryu had a love child he never talks about because he's too focused on fighting?

If Porky is in how many people will be thrilled and or upset?

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

There’s something you missed that’s even bigger

Porky is not there and all previous bosses from brawl have spirits but not porky even tabuu

So why porky exclusion?

Porky does have a spirit, it's just not called Porky. "Absolutely Safe Capsule"

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

"We have completed development on a beloved Rare character: the Pirate from Sea of Thieves. Banjo, Steve and Master Chief will be Mii costumes."

Even though I don't like Sea of Theives, a customizable pirate does sounds hyping for a Smash game nonetheless! I'd be fine with that.

 

[Deleted member]

"We have completed development on a beloved Rare character: the Pirate from Sea of Thieves. Banjo, Steve and Master Chief will be Mii costumes."

As long as their taunts are infinitely looping sea shanties I'll take it.

 

[Dee Dude]

I’m relived the Cloud thing was fake.

I mean, I know Square is uptight but not that uptight.

 

[Deleted member]

What if Ryu had a love child he never talks about because he's too focused on fighting?

If Porky is in how many people will be thrilled and or upset?

Why did you just ask two completely unrelated questions?

 

[MainJPW]

What if Ryu had a love child he never talks about because he's too focused on fighting?

Ryu is Goku confirmed.

 

[NeonBurrito]

I can't help but feel like people are really overestimating the importance of not having spirits. I really doubt characters like Cross from Xenoblade Chronicles X, Marshall and the Tap Trial Girl from Rhythm Heaven, and Adeleine from Kirby not having spirits means that they'll be DLC; if anything, it just feels like they were out-prioritized.

If there were any notable spirit omissions, I'd say that they would be:

• Porky (secondary antagonist of Earthbound, main antagonist of MOTHER 3, very prominent in series, formerly a boss in Brawl)
• Sylux (most prominent hunter in the series, planned to be main antagonist in the upcoming Metroid Prime 4)
• Any sort of Fire Emblem Heroes character (huge money maker for Nintendo right now, has two remixes in the game, yet no spirits)

Aside from that though, I can't help but feel like any other first party spirit omissions don't really mean much. It was obvious from the get go that not every single Nintendo character in history was going to make it in.

 

[Zeox]

Porky does have a spirit, it's just not called Porky. "Absolutely Safe Capsule"

Then that's not Porky, that's just the absolutely safe capsule.
And yes, don't ask me why, but inanimate objects have spirits.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Porky does have a spirit, it's just not called Porky. "Absolutely Safe Capsule"

You can't actually see Porky in the sprite tho:

I mean technically he's in there, but it's not really a Porky spirit.