Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Luigi The President]

Just got up, any sort of recap post?

Yeah, like many others, I'm gonna dip out of this thread until the game launches. I'll stick around the individual character forums as more information comes out, but I'd rather not know everything about the game before I turn it on.

It's been real, @Noipoi osby @TyrantLizardKing @Opossum @Indecisive Fisher Luigi The President @Luigifan18 @Gothitelle @Tougon @CaptainAmerica KMDP Idon @NineS @SvartWolf Flyboy @Mc.Rad @praline and @anyoneelseicantthinkofrightnow.

Jill for DLC.

Miss u buddy...come back soon

 

[Deleted member]

No, he really isn't.

Yes he is.

 

[KidCham]

what if Porky doesn't have a spirit because he is in his capsule ? and it's just a joke

Spirits are made by Galleem, Porky became a spirit while being in his capsule

there is no reason Porky would have been made a spirit if he is in his absolute safe capsule, i think it's according to the canon porky to assume that
It's just normal to not see Porky as a Spirit, he couldn't be made a spirit
And also, he already have his stage and musics

So what his DLC would bring ? Nothing

 

[Gentlepanda]

EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS

turns out this is actually Galeem's theme, and the final boss is straight out of Persona 4 Dancing All Night

 

[A.G.L.]

A.G.L. kept saying this, but I really didn't expect Square to be that stingy about their stuff.
Who skips a Smash opportunity? :/

I did a little more research on Square's content when it comes to their characters appearing in other games. They follow a pattern so far, that I had not really realized until I looked into it some more.

First Cloud in Super Smash Brothers Wii U, he was a DLC character. Cloud came with, two costumes, a stage, two songs, Chocobo Mii outfit & a Geno Mii outfit.

Next is Noctis with the Assasins Creed festival, vs. the small appearance Final Fantasy 15 had in Assassins Creed Origins. In the Assassins Festival Ubisoft clearly gave away a lot, they gave costumes, hidden blade mechanics and even added a whole mission to Square. Then you go to Assassins Creed Origins and all you get is a small appearance by Ardyn and you get Noctis's Engine Blade. Its clear here that Ubisoft gave more to Square, than Square gave to Ubisoft.

Now onto Noctis in Tekken 7, surprisingly Noctis only comes with two songs. He comes with Apocalyptis Noctis and Stand your Ground. Much like in Cloud's situation Square again is being very stingy with their music. The only other content that Noctis came with is his stage and when you bowl in Tekken 7, Gladio Prompto and Ignis are cheering you on. No other character in Tekken when they bowl has other characters cheering them on, so that is a nice touch. We see here Square is using Tekken to promote Final Fantasy 15 and the fact they had DLC passes going on for FF15.

In Monster Hunter World, again Square only allowed to pieces of music in their crossover. Those songs are Kulu Ya Ku theme also known as the Chocobo theme, and Torn from the Heavens (Behemoth Battle Theme). In addition to two songs, Square also let Capcom have a Behemoth boss fight. And armor from Behemoth and Moogle armor. So in another unsurprising move, Square only gives the bare minimum when it comes to their music and their things. Also Square used Monster Hunter World to promote FF14 Heavensward expansion to Final Fantasy 14.

2B in Soul Calibur 6 is hard to say how much music she will come with as she hasn't been released. However if we follow Square's pattern its most likely she will only come with two music tracks. And again we see Square characters as always being DLC and not part of the main game.

Following all of this information we have been given we can sort of determine Square's guest character pattern. And how much content they will give in terms of future Square characters appearing in games that aren't owned or developed by Square.

1) Square only gives two pieces of music each time, when it comes to characters being in games that aren't theirs.

2) Square will give some of their content to the other game company, but very little.

3) Square will use this opportunity to promote their own games, by cross promoting

4) Square's characters are always DLC and they are not part of the main storyline of that game.

5) The characters from Square used in other games that are not owned by Square. Always represent the company, and are still relevant.

 

[kirbsmash]

What if Ryu had a love child he never talks about because he's too focused on fighting?

If Porky is in how many people will be thrilled and or upset?

so he's Goku then? (I know he loves hiskids but he's dead] Also, Ryu don't really care about that

 

[Chrono.]

So where’s the list of all the spirits at? Did my boy get disconfirmed?

Deathborn isn't a Spirit.

 

[Deleted member]

Just got up, any sort of recap post?


Miss u buddy...come back soon

All spirits leaked. Some bosses leaked. Intro leaked. All cutscenes leaked. All mii costumes leaked. All guidances leaked.

 

[osby]

All spirits leaked. Some bosses leaked. Intro leaked. All cutscenes leaked. All mini costumes leaked. All guidances leaked.

So nothing a piece of gum can't fix.

 

[Luigi The President]

All spirits leaked. Some bosses leaked. Intro leaked. All cutscenes leaked. All mii costumes leaked. All guidances leaked.

**** fam I may have to dig into them Mii Costumes...where?

 

[Pakky]

Sora gets in right, but you only get half of the character model and two songs neither of them are 'Simple and Clean' how do you respond?

 

[Pyra]

All spirits leaked. Some bosses leaked. Intro leaked. All cutscenes leaked. All mii costumes leaked. All guidances leaked.

Someone call Phil Swift already for ****'s sake

 

[Flyboy]

turns out this is actually Galeem's theme, and the final boss is straight out of Persona 4 Dancing All Night.

The reason we haven't seen the Stylist is because Galeem is the Stylist.

(okay, I know you were joking but that song actually leads to some pretty interesting findings.)

 

[Idon]

>Me trying to navigate Smashboards without getting WoL cutscenes spoiled for me.

 

[Darkbeard]

Blast Corps and.. get this, Jet Force Gimini are present.. this = Rare.
Rare = Banjo, Blast Corps or JFG
Rejoice Banjo fans

Edit: Anyone wish it's Juno instead?

Wait, what's this about Jet Force Gemini?

 

[Deleted member]

**** fam I may have to dig into them Mii Costumes...where?

If you’re curious, geno isn’t a mii costume. All third party costumes have been cut. I’ll get the link in a momnet

 

[Luigi The President]

If you’re curious, geno isn’t a mii costume. All third party costumes have been cut. I’ll get the link in a momnet

Nah I knew that. I got the list just now, don't worry

 

[LetterO]

Not gonna lie a fighters pass with

-Adeline
-Sylux
-Porky
-Tibby
-Cross

would rock.

 

[Zeox]

If Porky is in how many people will be thrilled and or upset?

Well, as you can see for my profile pic, I would clearly dislike of this "Porky" person to be in Smash.

 

[FreeFox]

All spirits leaked. Some bosses leaked. Intro leaked. All cutscenes leaked. All mii costumes leaked. All guidances leaked.

Everything but the order of the characters in WoL.

I think images of one of the bosses, havent still been made but we know he exists.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Gotta say, I still think Sylux has nothing going on for him unless MP4 markets him out of the wazoo.

Porky just seems like people going for more villains. He's cool and all but I kinda doubt most people want him for him.

 

[osby]

>Me trying to navigate Smashboards without getting WoL cutscenes spoiled for me.
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Same. But at least people are kind enough to tag spoilers in a SPOILER thread.

 

[Luigi The President]

Spoiler: Specific Spirits

So two RARE Spirits got in?
And Ryce says Verge may be wrong about Minecraft rep?
Hm!

 

[Flyboy]

Not gonna lie a fighters pass with

-Adeline
-Sylux
-Porky
-Tibby
-Cross

would rock.

I dig that a whole bunch. I'm not even on the Sylux train but considering the amount of music and stages we would get and how unique they'd all be, that would be awesome.

But my heart would weep for no Stylist.

 

[kirbsmash]

Well, as you can see for my profile pic, I would clearly dislike of this "Porky" person to be in Smash.

Ah, sarcasm. I love it

 

[Izanagi97]

I did a little more research on Square's content when it comes to their characters appearing in other games. They follow a pattern so far, that I had not really realized until I looked into it some more.

First Cloud in Super Smash Brothers Wii U, he was a DLC character. Cloud came with, two costumes, a stage, two songs, Chocobo Mii outfit & a Geno Mii outfit.

Next is Noctis with the Assasins Creed festival, vs. the small appearance Final Fantasy 15 had in Assassins Creed Origins. In the Assassins Festival Ubisoft clearly gave away a lot, they gave costumes, hidden blade mechanics and even added a whole mission to Square. Then you go to Assassins Creed Origins and all you get is a small appearance by Ardyn and you get Noctis's Engine Blade. Its clear here that Ubisoft gave more to Square, than Square gave to Ubisoft.

Now onto Noctis in Tekken 7, surprisingly Noctis only comes with two songs. He comes with Apocalyptis Noctis and Stand your Ground. Much like in Cloud's situation Square again is being very stingy with their music. The only other content that Noctis came with is his stage and when you bowl in Tekken 7, Gladio Prompto and Ignis are cheering you on. No other character in Tekken when they bowl has other characters cheering them on, so that is a nice touch. We see here Square is using Tekken to promote Final Fantasy 15 and the fact they had DLC passes going on for FF15.

In Monster Hunter World, again Square only allowed to pieces of music in their crossover. Those songs are Kulu Ya Ku theme also known as the Chocobo theme, and Torn from the Heavens (Behemoth Battle Theme). In addition to two songs, Square also let Capcom have a Behemoth boss fight. And armor from Behemoth and Moogle armor. So in another unsurprising move, Square only gives the bare minimum when it comes to their music and their things. Also Square used Monster Hunter World to promote FF14 Heavensward expansion to Final Fantasy 14.

2B in Soul Calibur 6 is hard to say how much music she will come with as she hasn't been released. However if we follow Square's pattern its most likely she will only come with two music tracks. And again we see Square characters as always being DLC and not part of the main game.

Following all of this information we have been given we can sort of determine Square's guest character pattern. And how much content they will give in terms of future Square characters appearing in games that aren't owned or developed by Square.

1) Square only gives two pieces of music each time, when it comes to characters being in games that aren't theirs.

2) Square will give some of their content to the other game company, but very little.

3) Square will use this opportunity to promote their own games, by cross promoting

4) Square's characters are always DLC and they are not part of the main storyline of that game.

5) The characters from Square used in other games that are not owned by Square. Always represent the company, and are still relevant.

So basically all take and hardly any give?

 

[CroonerMike]

O Look , another post on 4Chan about agumon in Smash
and it was NOT ME thar created it!
And 100% of the people posting there are positive and WANT agumon in Smash
What a Big surprise!

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/440320116

"But SmashBoards-Senpai , you said that Graizen was the only one , w-whats h-happening?"

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“L-look, s-see I told you g-guys” *wipes tears from eyes*

 

[KMDP]

turns out this is actually Galeem's theme, and the final boss is straight out of Persona 4 Dancing All Night

We need all the dancing characters we can get.

We already have

Our DLC characters will be: Yu Narukami, Crash Bandicoot, Azura. Shantae and Goro Majima.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, as you can see for my profile pic, I would clearly dislike of this "Porky" person to be in Smash.

Yeah.
It looks depressed towards life.

As if he had terrible parents.

 

[Camc10]

Spoiler: Specific Spirits

So two RARE Spirits got in?
And Ryce says Verge may be wrong about Minecraft rep?
Hm!

No Spirits as far as we know, but data for 2 rare games are in.

Also, here's a question. What do you get from playing with Amiibo?

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

What if Ryu had a love child he never talks about because he's too focused on fighting?

If Porky is in how many people will be thrilled and or upset?

He's been my most wanted since Brawl. I would lose my mind. Close to Etika-level reaction.

 

[Gentlepanda]

We need all the dancing characters we can get.

We already have

Our DLC characters will be: Yu Narukami, Crash Bandicoot, Azura. Shantae and Goro Majima.

Galeem is doomed.

 

[kirbsmash]

No Spirits as far as we know, but data for 2 rare games are in.

Also, here's a question. What do you get from playing with Amiibo?

buffed up computers.

 

[GoeGoe]

"Reminisce", you say?
Let's listen to some screams.

Thank you
Lul. Math and Tit OMG

Wait, what's this about Jet Force Gemini?

Spirits (datamined).

 

[osby]

We need all the dancing characters we can get.

We already have

Our DLC characters will be: Yu Narukami, Crash Bandicoot, Azura. Shantae and Goro Majima.

*pushes up nerd glasses* Actually, now that three Persona games have dancing spin-offs...

 

[A.G.L.]

Sora gets in right, but you only get half of the character model and two songs neither of them are 'Simple and Clean' how do you respond?

Yeah that is a problem and if we add how stingy Square is when lending out their things. If we got Sora we would most likely get, two songs, a stage, a mii costume and of course Sora. However Im not sure Square would hire Haley Joel Osmond to voice him, so we might get another Cloud situation. In where Sora would only speak in Japanese. Its hard to say what we would or would not get as Square is very stingy when it comes to cooperating with other gaming companies.

 

[Ivander]

In Monster Hunter World, again Square only allowed to pieces of music in their crossover. Those songs are Kulu Ya Ku theme also known as the Chocobo theme, and Torn from the Heavens (Behemoth Battle Theme). In addition to two songs, Square also let Capcom have a Behemoth boss fight. And armor from Behemoth and Moogle armor. So in another unsurprising move, Square only gives the bare minimum when it comes to their music and their things. Also Square used Monster Hunter World to promote FF14 Heavensward expansion to Final Fantasy 14

The two music deal is not true with Monster Hunter World. Besides the Chocobo Theme and Torn from the Heavens, Behemoth also came with Thunderer as the first music used when you fight it for the first time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyfTDbc57E0
https://youtu.be/Nbr4woGgRX8?t=56
So no, it's not always two music tracks only.

By the way, Cactuar is also in Monster Hunter World, as a environmental creature that you can hit to activate it's 1000 Needles attack.

 

[Flyboy]

Gotta say, I still think Sylux has nothing going on for him unless MP4 markets him out of the wazoo.

Porky just seems like people going for more villains. He's cool and all but I kinda doubt most people want him for him.

I don't want Sylux and feel like with Ridley and Damus we are good on Metroid reps for now unless Sylux turns out to be a really cool and interesting villain. Porky would be very cool but he's hardly on my list. I do absolutely adore Mother though so Heavily Armed Porky would be sick, especially with a Devil Machine stage. It's more looking at the list and considering that even if they aren't my "most-wanted" they still have a lot to offer in terms of stages, tracks, and movesets.

Out of all the significant missing spirits Style Savvy is the main one I want the most.

And Funky Kong. We gotta get Funky.

 

[blackghost]

these dlc lists im seeing are extremely underwhelming. smash ultimate has taken everything from previous games (excpet brawls over-the-top cutscenes) and enhanced it.
i find it hard to believe that smash ultimate dlc would be limited to to Nintendo only characters and characters that have barely been used in their own games as well.

Shoutouts to A.G.L. for a great post about how SE works and not just fearmongering.

 

[Deleted member]

these dlc lists im seeing are extremely underwhelming. smash ultimate has taken everything from previous games (excpet brawls over-the-top cutscenes) and enhanced it.
i find it hard to believe that smash ultimate dlc would be limited to to Nintendo only characters and characters that have barely been used in their own games as well.

Shoutouts to A.G.L. for a great post about how SE works and not just fearmongering.

Are you saying that Crash and Banjo are underwhelming!?