Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Interesting thing that happened to distract from the fake music leak Someone posted

So backporting LVD's from Ultimate to Sm4sh (WiiU and most likely 3ds) works~

Credit to @jam1garner for converting it for sm4sh pic.twitter.com/7XAs7jPIuX

— Dmnslyr (@Demonslayerx8) November 24, 2018

 

[Flyboy]

Is there a list somewhere of potential/speculated characters that aren't Spirits?

Not that I'm convinced Spirits mean no DLC, but I'm curious (and lazy)

The big ones are Porky, Sylux, Adeleine, Funky Kong, Tibby (Rhythm Heaven), Elma's true form, Cross (Xenoblade X protagonist) and Style Savvy characters.

HOWEVER: It's been reported we do not have a full list of the Spirits. I don't know how accurate that is, but I can believe it because one of the first spirits we saw (and you can check the Style Savvy thread for proof) was the original Stylist from the Girl's Mode 1 box art. That lends credence to the idea that there may be some new spirits either coming or not shown yet somehow.

 

[Llort A. Ton]

So do we have confirmation that the

Spoiler: idk if I should spoiler this or not

Blast Corps and Jetforce Gemini code lines in Ultimate

are 100% legit?

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

I think porky and sylux are the big characters to look at that dont have spirits because of various things about them.

third party characters not so much as nintendo not including them as a spirit MIGHT be something negotiation-wise we really cant say, where as first party nintendo characters being absent is entirely on nintendo... so missing third parties probly dont mean much save for maybe heihachi since he was a mii costume and considered for playable before and now has nothing. feels like a good spirit candidate and namco working directly on smash makes them the loosest company to get stuff from but hes gone.

porky being such a big part of SMASH in the past makes his absences the most suspicious imo, not only a history with the mother series and important to both ness and lucas and a stage in smash but he's always been well repped in smash and now is gone completely from what we've seen and isnt even referenced for his status as a former boss fight... HIGHLY suspicious i'd say. Also while its seen as almost an impossibility at this point, localizing mother 3 and promoting that with a smash character would make sense with nintendo choosing the dlc.

sylux, while some of the other hunters are gone, was always a fairly likely dlc candidate with nintendo picking the chaarcters and metroid prime 4 being a BIG future title to promote and sylux supposedly having a major role in there... just adds even more to the chances of being DLC to have sylux missing from the spirits.

no idea if spirits "deconfirm" characters or what i think theres decent arguments on both sides but i still think in case it DOES deconfirm its worth looking at the characters who managed to avoid being spirits. with potentially only 5 dlc characters (6 with piranha plant and yes 30 potential spots have been found but lets stick with what we know for sure) and some likely being third party a missing major nintendo character or two when almost everyone else is a spirit is enough to possibly narrow down a dlc character or two. and if you dont think nintendo would be that obvious in giving away the dlc characters... let me introduce you to box theory.

Guess I'm back on the Porky hype train.

 

[Idon]

Fanfiction begs to differ.

Fanfiction also ships him with Vergil, his twin-blood-brother, so don't put too much stock into it.

 

[DJ3DS]

I got to play Ultimate for around 7 hours today, and will be back again tomorrow.

Spent the time alternating between ROB and K Rool. The game is fantastic!

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

They're lying, they already said they aren't getting the game several times.

Actually, after Incineroar and PP, I did say I would get it for them. So while yes, I wasnt gonna get the game originaly, those two characters changed my mind

 

[Polan]

all this leaking and hacking happening before release....you know sakurai is absolutely going to murder some beloved character and make them a mii costume. can't wait.

 

[Deleted member]

denial isn't just a river

You can, here and now, cure my denial by providing a direct quote that explicitly says that spirits showing a character means the character will never see an upgrade to be a fighter. You'd make me a smarter man.

 

[Deleted member]

all this leaking and hacking happening before release....you know sakurai is absolutely going to murder some beloved character and make them a mii costume. can't wait.

Not Crash and Sylux please.

 

[Deleted member]

Some people want to be surprised by bosses and other things.

Then those people shouldn't be in a thread with "SPOILERS" plastered over the title

 

[RawstyleEevee]

Somewhat. No Cross and no True Form Elma.

People in the Elma thread did find, that the X spirits don't get acknowledged that they are from X. (they are just listed as Xenoblade, while the XB2 spirits say they are coming from XB2

Normally I wouldn't worry about it, but even way more niché games got this privilege for their franchises, so I feel X is getting shafted for no reason. (That its a basebreaker doesn't count, if stuff like Code Name Steam and Other M gets a free pass)

 

[Idon]

Leaked Spirits List is out.
Lyn is a spirit
And so is Lyn (Blade Lord)

 

[Graizen]

So do we have confirmation that the

Spoiler: idk if I should spoiler this or not

Blast Corps and Jetforce Gemini code lines in Ultimate

are 100% legit?

Yes they are.

 

[NintenZ]

Are there any screenshots or textures of the leaked bosses?

 

[Teeb147]

I'd say that even, maybe, the entire contents of Ultimate will have been leaked before the game actually gets released...

That's likely.
The ones with the physical copies might not leak tho.
And they still havent managed to hack very far into it for some things so ya never know. But yeah

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Ugh, so hard to stay away... I want to be spoiled on music, but not on WoL.

Still, based on some of the things I've seen...

• MY BOI ARCANINE IS A SPIRIT!!!!!! So excited, I'll equip that on everyone. Hoping this is gonna have a battle attached to it...do I smell Incineroar?
• Holy **** so much great music. I need to get a full list of this ASAP. I see the SmashWiki is getting this up, but it still looks incomplete.
• If spirits do disconfirm, there aren't many characters left...but a certain dragonslayer is still in the running please...
• All 3rd party Mii costumes are out? So, Tails is the one Sonic character who got downgraded between titles. Not ok, make him playable now!
• And the big one - rumors of 30?!?! placeholders?

So in re: to this last thing - I'm not expecting 30 DLC character (but how awesome would that be). But if it were just the 5 from the pack + PP, why are there not just 5 placeholders? I feel we're likely to get another DLC set coming at some point, or maybe some random echoes dropped outside of the packs. Here's hoping... I'd love to see a looooooooooooong support period.

Also, reagrding the lack of 3rd party Mii costumes - that really sounds like some more are inbound as DLC. Hopefully we can also get some playable character costumes as well, but I'm not really feeling any hits to that...

Can someone link me to a full list of songs if it exists?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I am curious…… why do you feel like that?

Well, IDK if I will get yelled at for this by everyone but hear me out

I just dont like the fact we have 13 days to go and someone has already hacked it. Its not even out, at least give it some time to come out of the womb before you start doing that. Im all for spoilers, well, music spoilers in general. But not for hacking the game 13 days ahead of release

 

[kirbsmash]

Nah, I'm good.

*orders BayoJeanne from outside like a cultured person*

Give me an side of M!Robin/Chrom please?

 

[monadoboy]

The big ones are Porky, Sylux, Tibby (Rhythm Heaven), Cross (Xenoblade X protagonist) and Style Savvy characters.

HOWEVER: It's been reported we do not have a full list of the Spirits. I don't know how accurate that is, but I can believe it because one of the first spirits we saw (and you can check the Style Savvy thread for proof) was the original Stylist from the Girl's Mode 1 box art. That lends credence to the idea that there may be some new spirits either coming or not shown yet somehow.

Interesting.

I'd actually love if those were the DLC...
And maybe they did remove Spirits when they decided on the DLC, so the Stylist was removed.

 

[Deleted member]

Then those people shouldn't be in a thread with "SPOILERS" plastered over the title

I agree. That’s probably why most of the people who cared about spoilers said ‘Ok, things are getting leaked that I don’t wanna be spoiled on so I’m out’ when things started dropping.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Leaked Spirits List is out.
Lyn is a spirit
And so is Lyn (Blade Lord)

But she is already an AT I don't see the problem

 

[osby]

all this leaking and hacking happening before release....you know sakurai is absolutely going to murder some beloved character and make them a mii costume. can't wait.

We already lost Chrom, Samus, Link and Captain Falcon. I think we can get over any others.

 

[Zeox]

I gotta be honest, I was so sure that Porky was gonna be a boss that I was kinda happy to see him coming back... not being even a boss or a spirit kinda scares me, because if he is not a DLC that means he is less relevant for Smash than the freaking dog from mother 3 or Lucas's mom.

 

[Opossum]

So no non-original bosses have been discovered outside of Ganon and Marx, right?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Give me an side of M!Robin/Chrom please?

Good taste, order me some too

 

[Deleted member]

I gotta be honest, I was so sure that Porky was gonna be a boss that I was kinda happy to see him coming back... not being even a boss or a spirit kinda scares me, because if he is not a DLC that means he is less relevant for Smash than the freaking dog from mother 3 or Lucas's mom.

He has his own stage, so he isn’t that irrelevant.

I would love him as part of the DLC, doh.

 

[osby]

I gotta be honest, I was so sure that Porky was gonna be a boss that I was kinda happy to see him coming back... not being even a boss or a spirit kinda scares me, because if he is not a DLC that means he is less relevant for Smash than the freaking dog from mother 3 or Lucas's mom.

I hope it's not the disrespect for Boney and Lucas's mother I'm hearing.

 

[Flyboy]

I got to play Ultimate for around 7 hours today, and will be back again tomorrow.

Spent the time alternating between ROB and K Rool. The game is fantastic!

Incredible taste! My main and one of my most anticipated newcomers! How did ROB feel? Any new tech?

I'm a complete novice to the competitive scene so I don't know why I'm asking but hey, I'm just hyped.

 

[Aerospherology]

We already lost Chrom, Samus, Link and Captain Falcon. I think we can get over any others.

He's killed Link twice now.

 

[beans]

I gotta be honest, I was so sure that Porky was gonna be a boss that I was kinda happy to see him coming back... not being even a boss or a spirit kinda scares me, because if he is not a DLC that means he is less relevant for Smash than the freaking dog from mother 3 or Lucas's mom.

Ey
Dont talk **** about Boney

 

[Deleted member]

So no non-original bosses have been discovered outside of Ganon and Marx, right?

Yeah. Jury’s still out on characters like Baldur though.

 

[Deleted member]

So no non-original bosses have been discovered outside of Ganon and Marx, right?

wait hol up ganons in this game tf

 

[monadoboy]

freaking dog from mother 3

Bro how can you disrespect the best party member like that

 

[Polan]

Not Crash and Sylux please.

sometimes, painful sacrifices must be made to ensure that those that sin are punished.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

BTW, was that whole Monster Hunter music thing ever cleared up?

Are there MH tracks under "Fighter Franchise" or not?

 

[Paperchampion23]

I gotta be honest, I was so sure that Porky was gonna be a boss that I was kinda happy to see him coming back... not being even a boss or a spirit kinda scares me, because if he is not a DLC that means he is less relevant for Smash than the freaking dog from mother 3 or Lucas's mom.

In a perfect world, if Spirits inadvertently confirmed DLC, it'd be:

- Porky
- Sylux
- Rhythm Girl
- Banjo (if the Rare games being present mean anything)
- 5th character.

I'd buy it, I'd buy it several times over.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

My response to professa gaming's flimsy statement (Warning: Foul language)
https://www.twitter.com/Curiousity_Inc/status/1066410691911970817

 

[Deleted member]

sometimes, painful sacrifices must be made to ensure that those that sin are punished.

They will sacrifice themself for our safety...

They are heroes...
Even if one of the two is a galactic assasin.

 

[Deleted member]

BTW, was that whole Monster Hunter music thing ever cleared up?

Are there MH tracks under "Fighter Franchise" or not?

https://smashboards.com/threads/sma...ntial-spoilers.434391/page-8336#post-22751283

no evidence of a MH fighter