Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Will]

The kid feels like he's one step away from his soul leaving his body and going home.

It's more like one wrong step from someone else and they're about to feel him testing his abilities.

 

[staindgrey]

Japanese is just so awesome to listen to as someone who understands none of it.

I've fallen in love with future funk. Especially when they use a Japanese rap. You just listen to the flow and rhyming with NO knowledge whatsoever of the meaning. It's all just sounds.

 

[osby]

Why was that Corrin so bad.

He got 3-stocked twice, I think.

The player was just a kid. The boy playing Captain Falcon is just freakishly good.

 

[Will]

Marth's JP voice sounds like it got rerecorded lines, so maybe that's why they decided to dub him this game.

also lol the shield break to home-run bat

 

[Noipoi]

Coat Kid is so uncomfortable because that's not his body.
He's a Smash Bros God inhabiting a child shaped vessel.

 

[Iridium]

Before aMSa there was V3ctorman
Even then there's still players like nebbii (Avalancher, 2nd best Dutch player), Peanutphobia and Plata
Just because aMSa is the cream of the crop when it comes to Yoshi mains doesn't detract from any of these players.

And the only move I would consider pretty much useless on Melee Yoshi is Side B, which is nothing we Yoshi mains are not used to. What's holding him back is lack of recovery and out-of-shield options. He has very good combo game, air game and ground game otherwise, and his Egg Throw is a great combo extender.

You're aware of Neon, Yoshidora, Rotsuku, Aiba and Nimomiya for Japanese Smash 4 Yoshi mains, right? They're really good, even if we don't see them too much.

 

[Idon]

Marth's JP voice sounds like it got rerecorded lines, so maybe that's why they decided to dub him this game.

also lol the shield break to home-run bat

Yeah, he did. Sakurai mentioned in an interview how he really liked Roy's rerecorded lines and regrets still using Marth's Melee voicelines in 4.

 

[osby]

Greninja three-stocked Marth. Again.

I mean, chill kids, this is just a game, have some mercy.

 

[Zinith]

You're aware of Neon, Yoshidora, Rotsuku, Aiba and Nimomiya for Japanese Smash 4 Yoshi mains, right? They're really good, even if we don't see them too much.

I've heard of some of those players, yes

 

[Royalty1702]

Greninja three-stocked Marth. Again.

I mean, chill kids, this is just a game, have some mercy.

Where is this happening?

 

[Will]

Jeez, that Marth pulled the upset of the century.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, he did. Sakurai mentioned in an interview how he really liked Roy's rerecorded lines and regrets still using Marth's Melee voicelines in 4.

This makes me wish some characters like Mario or Luigi get new voices. A lot of characters seem to have either their voices redone or fixed up in tiny places.
It feels weird hearing Brawl Mario when it's essentially Odyssey Mario in Smash Ultimate.

 

[osby]

Where is this happening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ItpCHMYpzo

 

[Iridium]

Another 3-stock. Okay...

 

[Dyllybirdy]

The kid feels like he's one step away from his soul leaving his body and going home.

But what if it already has?

To be serious, though, I feel really bad for the poor kid...

 

[Noipoi]

These kids are savages.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Before aMSa there was V3ctorman
Even then there's still players like nebbii (Avalancher, 2nd best Dutch player), Peanutphobia and Plata
Just because aMSa is the cream of the crop when it comes to Yoshi mains doesn't detract from any of these players.

And the only move I would consider pretty much useless on Melee Yoshi is Side B, which is nothing we Yoshi mains are not used to. What's holding him back is lack of recovery and out-of-shield options. He has very good combo game, air game and ground game otherwise, and his Egg Throw is a great combo extender.

All the players mentioned are obviously great, but I'm talking about getting results. There are players around Peanutphobia's level who play ganons and falcons, despite the fact that those two characters really aren't that good.

I honestly am also just very quick to call a character bad, admittedly. I think that if they can't win a tournament, they aren't good. And if their main representation is through one player, then they're being carried. Though I do see your point, and I am by no means saying you're wrong. Fact of the matter is, the only mid tier I could potentially see winning a major is pikachu. aMSa might get top 8, but unless he switches to fox, I don't think he's gonna be able to make it through a single tourney against leffen, mango, m2k, and especially hbox. He can get the win on them every now and then, but Yoshi simply can't compare to top tiers.

 

[Will]

Does this Marth not know how to use other dancing blades or is he just in spam heaven?

 

[Deleted member]

It feels ****ing weird that we can now swim in Great Bay now. I'm so used to just sinking down like it was regular.

 

[MainJPW]

Yeah, he did. Sakurai mentioned in an interview how he really liked Roy's rerecorded lines and regrets still using Marth's Melee voicelines in 4.

I wish he would regret reusing Mario and Lucas’s Brawl lines.

 

[ES. Dinah]

So with regard to KOS-MOS's status as a fighter I just want to point out that Hitagi says all of her information besides Steve was false now and as far as I know she was the only one who hinted at a Namco rep. KOS-MOS's status is a bit uncertain now but I do believe spirits have to mean something. The game is out there now and people have early copies and KOS-MOS as a spirit nor AT or anything else has been found. I'm thinking that spirits really do mean something in terms of confirmation for smash. Hitagi was the only one who hinted at spirits never getting playable fighters and her credibility is just zero right now cause of all the backpedaling she's done but hear me out. Why isn't KOS-MOS a spirit? Nobody has found her and maybe a spirit of her doesn't even exist. Maybe they are saving her for a fighter. Here is my reasoning: Multiple Xenoblade 2 characters have spirits and Elma has one too so wouldn't it make the most sense if KOS-MOS was a spirit if there were no plans for her as a fighter? Honestly, this is just speculation and it might not mean anything but I can see Nintendo picking KOS-MOS considering how much she was marketed with Xenoblade 2 and probably got tons of people to buy the game with her inclusion. Other reasons have been said ad nausea right now including how Sakurai feels Hehiachi's moveset would be hard to implement in smash, etc. Truly, there is no certain future for KOS-MOS right now because there is nothing "credible" that shows her inclusion is happening. Yes, there are "leaks" on 4chan about her but that's just the desperation of her fanbase trying to get her more popular I feel. But if I were to entertain this spirit idea thing then I fully believe KOS-MOS would be happening for the reasons I listed.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

WE WANT COAT KID

 

[Will]

Spoiler: I'm gonna roast this kid

Greninja Guy needs to brush his goddamn teeth

 

[Zinith]

All the players mentioned are obviously great, but I'm talking about getting results. There are players around Peanutphobia's level who play ganons and falcons, despite the fact that those two characters really aren't that good.

I honestly am also just very quick to call a character bad, admittedly. I think that if they can't win a tournament, they aren't good. And if their main representation is through one player, then they're being carried. Though I do see your point, and I am by no means saying you're wrong. Fact of the matter is, the only mid tier I could potentially see winning a major is pikachu. aMSa might get top 8, but unless he switches to fox, I don't think he's gonna be able to make it through a single tourney against leffen, mango, m2k, and especially hbox. He can get the win on them every now and then, but Yoshi simply can't compare to top tiers.

Saying a character can't win against top tiers is a far cry from saying a character is bad. Yoshi is in the perfect spot right now since over half of the cast fairs FAR worse than he does. He wouldn't have left low tier if it was just aMSa pulling through and his meta game was still stagnate

 

[Luigi The President]

So with regard to KOS-MOS's status as a fighter I just want to point out that Hitagi says all of her information besides Steve was false now and as far as I know she was the only one who hinted at a Namco rep. KOS-MOS's status is a bit uncertain now but I do believe spirits have to mean something. The game is out there now and people have early copies and KOS-MOS as a spirit nor AT or anything else has been found. I'm thinking that spirits really do mean something in terms of confirmation for smash. Hitagi was the only one who hinted at spirits never getting playable fighters and her credibility is just zero right now cause of all the backpedaling she's done but hear me out. Why isn't KOS-MOS a spirit? Nobody has found her and maybe a spirit of her doesn't even exist. Maybe they are saving her for a fighter. Here is my reasoning: Multiple Xenoblade 2 characters have spirits and Elma has one too so wouldn't it make the most sense if KOS-MOS was a spirit if there were no plans for her as a fighter? Honestly, this is just speculation and it might not mean anything but I can see Nintendo picking KOS-MOS considering how much she was marketed with Xenoblade 2 and probably got tons of people to buy the game with her inclusion. Other reasons have been said ad nausea right now including how Sakurai feels Hehiachi's moveset would be hard to implement in smash, etc. Truly, there is no certain future for KOS-MOS right now because there is nothing "credible" that shows her inclusion is happening. Yes, there are "leaks" on 4chan about her but that's just the desperation of her fanbase trying to get her more popular I feel. But if I were to entertain this spirit idea thing then I fully believe KOS-MOS would be happening for the reasons I listed.

Literally hundreds of spirits yet to be found hold ur horses lol

 

[Idon]

So with regard to KOS-MOS's status as a fighter I just want to point out that Hitagi says all of her information besides Steve was false now and as far as I know she was the only one who hinted at a Namco rep. KOS-MOS's status is a bit uncertain now but I do believe spirits have to mean something. The game is out there now and people have early copies and KOS-MOS as a spirit nor AT or anything else has been found. I'm thinking that spirits really do mean something in terms of confirmation for smash. Hitagi was the only one who hinted at spirits never getting playable fighters and her credibility is just zero right now cause of all the backpedaling she's done but hear me out. Why isn't KOS-MOS a spirit? Nobody has found her and maybe a spirit of her doesn't even exist. Maybe they are saving her for a fighter. Here is my reasoning: Multiple Xenoblade 2 characters have spirits and Elma has one too so wouldn't it make the most sense if KOS-MOS was a spirit if there were no plans for her as a fighter? Honestly, this is just speculation and it might not mean anything but I can see Nintendo picking KOS-MOS considering how much she was marketed with Xenoblade 2 and probably got tons of people to buy the game with her inclusion. Other reasons have been said ad nausea right now including how Sakurai feels Hehiachi's moveset would be hard to implement in smash, etc. Truly, there is no certain future for KOS-MOS right now because there is nothing "credible" that shows her inclusion is happening. Yes, there are "leaks" on 4chan about her but that's just the desperation of her fanbase trying to get her more popular I feel. But if I were to entertain this spirit idea thing then I fully believe KOS-MOS would be happening for the reasons I listed.

Man, this is a bit overwhelming to read.

 

[Will]

D-Air to Jab with Falcon true combo?

 

[Deleted member]

MEOWTH IS A POKEBALL!

GARFIELD IS IN THE GAME!!!

Let's go, this game already GOAT now.

 

[CroonerMike]

This dweeb in the hoodie lol

 

[Idon]

Shyguy really knows how to exploit his final smash, lmao.

 

[RandomAce]

Bruh, some of you guys take this **** far too seriously.

The jury is out on whether or not Spirits disconfirm characters, and while I realize fighter spirits are their own thing, I don’t quite get why any character that has a spirit...also couldn’t suddenly get a “fighter spirit” like any other fighter already on the roster. I just don’t really get why it has to be so heated.

Also, I find it ironic that there are shots being fired because some people are “Sakurai” while others who are firing those shots are literally doing the exact same thing. Come on dudes.

Finally, on Rayman and Shantae getting worlds in World of Light, I think it’s crap. I can make an inference that makes me think, “Why would Shantae, of all characters get a section in World of Light?” It doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t need to be Sakurai to think it’s a crock, but at the same time I really, really don’t give a ****.

I already lost it when they said Geritsu was apart of WOL. Glade of Dreams made me more skeptical and Pirate Cove killed it for me...

And if that wasn’t enough, ****ing TAIL’S LABRATORY fully ended it.

But color me unsurprised if Sakurai the madman decided to do all of this after all.

 

[MainJPW]

This dweeb in the hoodie lol

Don’t be mean.

 

[Will]

That snipe of the Blue Falcon was so ****ing sick

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

That was a really entertaining round

 

[Deleted member]

Oh no.

Coat Kid shown his secret eye.

SonicFox's real hair BTFO, we SHARINGAN GANG.

 

[Will]

FALCON KID STOP JOBBING AAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Idon]

That's it. He's tilted too hard.
GG.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

So with regard to KOS-MOS's status as a fighter I just want to point out that Hitagi says all of her information besides Steve was false now and as far as I know she was the only one who hinted at a Namco rep. KOS-MOS's status is a bit uncertain now but I do believe spirits have to mean something. The game is out there now and people have early copies and KOS-MOS as a spirit nor AT or anything else has been found. I'm thinking that spirits really do mean something in terms of confirmation for smash. Hitagi was the only one who hinted at spirits never getting playable fighters and her credibility is just zero right now cause of all the backpedaling she's done but hear me out. Why isn't KOS-MOS a spirit? Nobody has found her and maybe a spirit of her doesn't even exist. Maybe they are saving her for a fighter. Here is my reasoning: Multiple Xenoblade 2 characters have spirits and Elma has one too so wouldn't it make the most sense if KOS-MOS was a spirit if there were no plans for her as a fighter? Honestly, this is just speculation and it might not mean anything but I can see Nintendo picking KOS-MOS considering how much she was marketed with Xenoblade 2 and probably got tons of people to buy the game with her inclusion. Other reasons have been said ad nausea right now including how Sakurai feels Hehiachi's moveset would be hard to implement in smash, etc. Truly, there is no certain future for KOS-MOS right now because there is nothing "credible" that shows her inclusion is happening. Yes, there are "leaks" on 4chan about her but that's just the desperation of her fanbase trying to get her more popular I feel. But if I were to entertain this spirit idea thing then I fully believe KOS-MOS would be happening for the reasons I listed.

This is cool and all, and I can tell you put quite a bit of effort into it, but, trying to read this is kind of hurting my eyes a bit now...

 

[Noipoi]

Coat Kid returns!

 

[Idon]

Toothy kid takes it.