Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Ramen Tengoku]

Ultimate is better than all

There's no way Ultimate is gonna be beaten in terms of quality
They went all out with this game, and that's insane

 

[Deleted member]

I knew Viewtiful Joe thanks to his anime.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

There's no way Ultimate is gonna be beaten in terms of quality
They went all out with this game, and that's insane

Only way they can do better is if they go to Infinity and Beyond...Smash Infinite

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Only way they can do better is if they go to Infinity and Beyond...Smash Infinite

Please no... that name is already ruined thanks to Marvel VS Capcom

 

[KiBom]

Brawl was better than Melee


FIGHT ME.

I don't have to. You'll just trip.

 

[osby]

I'll never defend Marvel vs Capcom Infinite because it done away with Viewtiful Joe.

 

[FalcoXP]

There's no way Ultimate is gonna be beaten in terms of quality
They went all out with this game, and that's insane

Yep, basically brings the best of Melee, Brawl and 4 and makes it even better.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Please no... that name is already ruined thanks to Marvel VS Capcom

Don't get me started on how they turned MAHVEL into MCU The Video Game!

 

[KiBom]

Yep, basically brings the best of Melee, Brawl and 4 and makes it even better.

I mean we haven't even played the game yet. It's looking like that right now, but let's not jump the gun.

 

[Deleted member]

Not having Doctor Doom in MvC Infinite was a sin.

They better bring him back if they make another one.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Not having Doctor Doom in MvC Infinite was a sin.

They better bring him back if they make another one.

Not as big of a sin as not having Wolverine, and having Venom behind a paywall. The two biggest names at Marvel Comics in spite of Joe Quesada and Mark Millar's disdain for them both.

 

[Deleted member]

Go back to discussing Smash Bros

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'll never defend Marvel vs Capcom Infinite because it done away with Viewtiful Joe.

and Phoenix Wright... and Amaterasu... and the X-men... and the amazing soundtrack...
Basically, they removed what made Marvel VS Capcom great in the first place, and replaced it with generic MCU inspired content because "We've got to have... money" or something like that...

 

[osby]

I mean we haven't even played the game yet. It's looking like that right now, but let's not jump the gun.

Melee: Fast gameplay
Brawl: Big adventure mode
Smash For: Looks like actually balanced

I think we can say that, at least superficially.

 

[Deleted member]

I only know Viewtiful Joe because he looks like Wonder Red

 

[NapoleonDos]

Because guns (never mind that the new games give her other tools to go with).

Yeah, except Bayonetta is in. She is more sexual and more violent, including having (literally) twice as many guns.
So... No. This does not stand.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I only know Viewtiful Joe because he looks like Wonder Red

Well, you aren't wrong
pretty sure they were both made by the same guy

 

[Pyra]

Marvel vs Smash Bros Ultinfinite Directors Cut Special Edition 2020 Featuring Fat Yoshi from Devil May Cry 5

 

[Mc.Rad]

So about that mini direct... has it been disconfirmed or has it not?

I'm unsure, but I do believe that new first party titles aren't revealed through them, so I'm holding my tongue for a new F-Zero game to be announced there...

However, if it turns out to be a regular direct, or a direct based solely on the new game, then yeah that would be sweet.

 

[KingofKoopas]

I don't think the missing xmen was fully on disney's part though.. In the comics the Xmen have been pushed aside for years since "Civil War Again but this time its with Avengers and Xmen because REAL heroes are constantly fighting each other instead of fighting crime." And the Fantastic Four have been getting the shaft even longer because nobody knows how to write "The First FAMILY of Superheroes."

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So about that mini direct... has it been disconfirmed or has it not?

I'm unsure, but I do believe that new first party titles aren't revealed through them, so I'm holding my tongue for a new F-Zero game to be announced there...

Mario Tennis Aces was announced in a Nintendo Direct mini

 

[osby]

Yeah, except Bayonetta is in. She is more sexual and more violent, including having (literally) twice as many guns.
So... No. This does not stand.

Bayonetta isn't really that sexual in Smash. Never mind Lara Croft wouldn't be in the first place, that's not an argument, since Smash can always tone characters down.

As for guns... Love is Blue and Scarborough Fair, as others said before, don't even look much like real guns. For Lara Croft, it might be an issue, since hers are supposed to be realistic to a degree.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think the missing xmen was fully on disney's part though.. In the comics the Xmen have been pushed aside for years since "Civil War Again but this time its with Avengers and Xmen because REAL heroes are constantly fighting each other instead of fighting crime." And the Fantastic Four have been getting the shaft even longer because nobody knows how to write "The First FAMILY of Superheroes."

Someone does.

Pixar.

And Chip Zdarsky.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

I mean we haven't even played the game yet. It's looking like that right now, but let's not jump the gun.

*sees gun*
*jumps it*
Ultimate is gonna be the best Smash game ever. I'm seriously hoping that the communities behind each of the previous ones unite under the banner of Ultimate, even Melee. Probably the only thing keeping Melee from joining Ultimate is A. Melee's literally the most perfect game ever created and B. Wavedashing isn't as good in Ultimate as in Melee.

 

[StormC]

Of the currently released Smash games, Brawl definitely wins in content and modes. The slower gameplay can be hard to come back to, though. I find myself revisiting Melee more often than Brawl, and Subspace Emissary is fun on the first playthrough but doesn't have a lot of replay value.

Smash 4 is going to be completely negated by Ultimate though and that's hilarious.

 

[Deleted member]

Someone does.

Pixar.

And Chip Zdarsky.

Incredibles>Marvel>>>DC

 

[KiBom]

If RE gets in I kinda want both Claire and Leon to be playable. Either as costumes of the same fighter or as a duo somehow.

 

[Deleted member]

Of the currently released Smash games, Brawl definitely wins in content and modes. The slower gameplay can be hard to come back to, though. I find myself revisiting Melee more often than Brawl, and Subspace Emissary is fun on the first playthrough but doesn't have a lot of replay value.

Smash 4 is going to be completely negated by Ultimate though and that's hilarious.

Smash 3DS has the best Pac-Man stage doh.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Someone does.

Pixar.

That feeling when Pixar made two incredible (hint hint) Fantastic 4 movies by accident when Fox can't even make a single good one

 

[Deleted member]

Smash 3DS has the best Pac-Man stage doh.

I know right?! I hope they add Patra so we can get it back.

 

[Deleted member]

Incredibles>Marvel>>>DC

DC makes good comics and animated stuff too.

The movies are where they fail.

 

[Deleted member]

DC makes good comics and animated stuff too.

The movies are where they fail.

I just prefer marvel lol

 

[Deleted member]

I just prefer marvel lol

That’s fine.

 

[osby]

Of the currently released Smash games, Brawl definitely wins in content and modes. The slower gameplay can be hard to come back to, though. I find myself revisiting Melee more often than Brawl, and Subspace Emissary is fun on the first playthrough but doesn't have a lot of replay value.

Smash 4 is going to be completely negated by Ultimate though and that's hilarious.

Honestly, I'm glad Smash For exists because... well, if it wasn't for it, Ultimate likely wouldn't be a thing.

 

[Flyboy]

I only know Viewtiful Joe because he looks like Wonder Red

Wonder Red would've been a nice replacement for Joe...Joe even had a cameo in Wonderful 101 from what I remember.

 

[StormC]

Honestly, I'm glad Smash For exists because... well, if it wasn't for it, Ultimate likely wouldn't be a thing.

It was definitely a necessary stepping stone. I think Sakurai and the team learned a lot from it, and I got over 200 hours out of both versions of the game and all DLC, so I certainly got my money's worth and enjoyed the hell out of it. I just don't see myself revisiting it when basically everything worthwhile in the game will be in Ultimate... although, I did like Smash Run.

 

[KiBom]

I still think if Smash Run had been multiplayer in the exploration portion, it'd be the best alternate mode in Smash.

 

[Pakky]

GOD DAMN someone plays basketball!

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Please no... that name is already ruined thanks to Marvel VS Capcom

Don’t worry, Sakurai doesn’t allow bad games to be made under his watch

 

[StormC]

Assuming it was feasible from a development and licensing standpoint... how would people feel if going forward, Smash games were like Ultimate, where they port the entire roster + DLC from the last game, then add half a dozen newcomers/echoes each? Or would we rather see a reboot that heavily reworks the gameplay with massive cuts and more new characters?