Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Royalty1702]

Hey, I still think Poochy with a Crafted World stage isn't out of the realm of possibility...

Question: what are Poochy's powers and abilities?

 

[Nethermoosen]

Question: what are Poochy's powers and abilities?

My guess would be: Bark and Boop Snoot.

That second one made me cringe... Facebook is so infectious, man.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Question: what are Poochy's powers and abilities?

Invincibility and undeniable cuteness.

He's basically a moving platform in the games.

 

[Jetsurge]

Greninja's blades now look like the ones from the anime -

 

[The_Naraotor]

So what we have for certain according to Vergeben are, Katalina and Steve we don't know yet who are in from the Square Side, that could be either Geno or Sora if there was talk. To summarize we have at least 2/5 of the DLC characters known (I think I will trust Vergeben)

Three characters slot left, I will believe in my Sylux then for match with the release of Metroid Prime 4 as a commercial tie in

 

[Jetsurge]

So the reccuring name as DLC from what I understand are:

• Sora
• Geno
• Katalina
• Steve
• Banjo-Kazooie

Are those still the most quoted from insiders ?

With Nintendo choosing the newcomers Banjo and Geno have no chance. No credible insider has even talked about Banjo and it's extremely unlikely that Vergeben's Square Enix character is Geno.

 

[Zinith]

Question: what are Poochy's powers and abilities?

He's invincible and can sniff things out.... admittedly that's about it, but has anyone learned that Sakurai can make movesets of anything now (he may even utilize the Poochy-pups)

The main reason I'm going for him is the willingness for Nintendo to parade him everywhere. He even has his name BEFORE my boi's in the 3DS port of Woolly World...

 

[SuperSceptile15]

If anything, I think Octolings are a whole lot more likely. Splatoon is huge for Nintendo now, and they'll want to keep promoting it.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

With Nintendo choosing the newcomers Banjo and Geno have no chance. No credible insider has even talked about Banjo and it's extremely unlikely that Vergeben's Square Enix character is Geno.

papagenos so wants it to be Geno #GenoBias

 

[GrimPain]

I'm really curious as to who or what part of Nintendo got to decide who the DLC pool of characters, and also why now are they deciding to make the choices instead of leaving it to sakurai? Kind of makes one think that they might have a promotional agenda if they wanted to take the helm on the DLC.

 

[Knight Dude]

Still waiting on Nero for MvC...
Come on, he's been my most wanted for years Capcom. Put him in something, ANYTHING.

Nero's Revving mechanic would be really fun, like putting out an assist so you can charge up, getting EX moves for free basically. And Snatch working like Scorpion's Bloody Spear.

I've been waiting years for the chance to have a Spider-Man/Venom/Green Goblin team. Adding in Dante/Nero/Vergil, MMX/Zero/Axl would be great. Also getting Wolverine/Storm/Magneto back.

Question: what are Poochy's powers and abilities?

All the things dogs can do. Dig, Run, Stand on spikes. Y'know, the usual.

 

[PSIGuy]

Good thing Nintendo's no longer racist now that they removed the G&W attack animation.

Just kidding! Until they add a woman of colour as Smash DLC I'm still pegging them as racist. Good thing they have one of those in their games! Let's shame them relentlessly until they add Elma to Smash Bros.

(I am only half-kidding.)

EDIT: Hopefully "Mira" isn't a banned word. My bad about the original.

 

[KarneraMythos]

I'll make a topic for it one day (when I'm granted the privileges to mess with images, that is), but how would everyone feel if the next Smash game isn't actually "Smash"? Let's give it the rundown we all expect out of a hypothetical sequel:
-Lots of character cuts, mostly on the 3rd-party end
-Lots of new stage replacements, to accommodate whatever is hip with the lads
-Smaller roster closer to Melee in order to place emphasis on a more reserved and "balanced" roster
-All-in-all shallow and unneeded reboot on the surface-

BUUUUUT

(wait for it)

The new game's Nintendo roster is only 25% of the true full roster, and the stages aren't shown in their entirety:
-The other 75% of the game is made up of Capcom, Namco, and Sega characters. The roster consists of 100 characters, 20 more than the total we're getting for Ultimate
-The game still plays like Smash, except that now it includes new type of stage layout called a "Turbo" stage, which plays like the Vs. Capcom games with all the crazy hyper-combo horse **** you can do in them
-In the "Turbo" layout, you can choose up to 4 fighters for a team, each with their own HP bar like in the Vs. Capcom games, and plays exactly like them
-On the single-player front, Namco creates an original story mode of sorts that pairs all 4 worlds together ala Namco x Capcom, but with a greater emphasis on strategy roleplaying so that it doesn't feel like a borefest as some have found with the last two Project X Zone titles
-The game's packed with so much for a reboot that it's only less of Ultimate because of the inevitable downgrade, and more of a collaborative effort between four iconic companies. The resulting game surpasses Ultimate by feeling like a 4-in-1 package, huddling different types of communities together

Konami and Square-Enix are out of this hypothetical for the time being, since the former still needs to work back the public's trust and the latter is notoriously stingy and let's face it: They'd provide the least amount of manpower creating a masterpiece like that. But other than that...

How would you guys feel about this sort of game?

 

[MSmariosonic]

Good thing Nintendo's no longer racist now that they removed the G&W attack animation.

Just kidding! Until they add a woman of colour as Smash DLC I'm still pegging them as racist. Good thing they have one of those in their games! Let's shame them relentlessly until they add Elma to Smash Bros.

Mod Edit: Image removed

(I am only half-kidding.)

They beat ya to it

 

[Jetsurge]

Just kidding! Until they add a woman of colour as Smash DLC I'm still pegging them as racist. Good thing they have one of those in their games! Let's shame them relentlessly until they add Elma to Smash Bros.

Villager, Inkling and Mii exist

 

[Idon]

I'll make a topic for it one day (when I'm granted the privileges to mess with images, that is), but how would everyone feel if the next Smash game isn't actually "Smash"? Let's give it the rundown we all expect out of a hypothetical sequel:
-Lots of character cuts, mostly on the 3rd-party end
-Lots of new stage replacements, to accommodate whatever is hip with the lads
-Smaller roster closer to Melee in order to place emphasis on a more reserved and "balanced" roster
-All-in-all shallow and unneeded reboot on the surface-

BUUUUUT

(wait for it)

The new game's Nintendo roster is only 25% of the true full roster, and the stages aren't shown in their entirety:
-The other 75% of the game is made up of Capcom, Namco, and Sega characters. The roster consists of 100 characters, 20 more than the total we're getting for Ultimate
-The game still plays like Smash, except that now it includes new type of stage layout called a "Turbo" stage, which plays like the Vs. Capcom games with all the crazy hyper-combo horse **** you can do in them
-In the "Turbo" layout, you can choose up to 4 fighters for a team, each with their own HP bar like in the Vs. Capcom games, and plays exactly like them
-On the single-player front, Namco creates an original story mode of sorts that pairs all 4 worlds together ala Namco x Capcom, but with a greater emphasis on strategy roleplaying so that it doesn't feel like a borefest as some have found with the last two Project X Zone titles
-The game's packed with so much for a reboot that it's only less of Ultimate because of the inevitable downgrade, and more of a collaborative effort between four iconic companies. The resulting game surpasses Ultimate by feeling like a 4-in-1 package, huddling different types of communities together

Konami and Square-Enix are out of this hypothetical for the time being, since the former still needs to work back the public's trust and the latter is notoriously stingy and let's face it: They'd provide the least amount of manpower creating a masterpiece like that. But other than that...

How would you guys feel about this sort of game?

Hey, I'll try anything once.

 

[FixedFun]

Nintendo wants to play it safe, Poochy, the Octolings, a new FE character and maybe a character from Rhythm Heaven, that's the kind of characters we should expect. Then again...

This exists....

 

[MainJPW]

Villager, Inkling and Mii exist

“They’re generic avatars, not actual characters so they don’t count”.

 

[papagenos]

papagenos so wants it to be Geno #GenoBias

well...yeah.

haha i think that should be obvious

 

[ClaTheBae]

if all these characters are purely for promotion then I'm hyped for the new piranha plant game

Spoiler

 

[Knight Dude]

I'll make a topic for it one day (when I'm granted the privileges to mess with images, that is), but how would everyone feel if the next Smash game isn't actually "Smash"? Let's give it the rundown we all expect out of a hypothetical sequel:
-Lots of character cuts, mostly on the 3rd-party end
-Lots of new stage replacements, to accommodate whatever is hip with the lads
-Smaller roster closer to Melee in order to place emphasis on a more reserved and "balanced" roster
-All-in-all shallow and unneeded reboot on the surface-

BUUUUUT

(wait for it)

The new game's Nintendo roster is only 25% of the true full roster, and the stages aren't shown in their entirety:
-The other 75% of the game is made up of Capcom, Namco, and Sega characters. The roster consists of 100 characters, 20 more than the total we're getting for Ultimate
-The game still plays like Smash, except that now it includes new type of stage layout called a "Turbo" stage, which plays like the Vs. Capcom games with all the crazy hyper-combo horse **** you can do in them
-In the "Turbo" layout, you can choose up to 4 fighters for a team, each with their own HP bar like in the Vs. Capcom games, and plays exactly like them
-On the single-player front, Namco creates an original story mode of sorts that pairs all 4 worlds together ala Namco x Capcom, but with a greater emphasis on strategy roleplaying so that it doesn't feel like a borefest as some have found with the last two Project X Zone titles
-The game's packed with so much for a reboot that it's only less of Ultimate because of the inevitable downgrade, and more of a collaborative effort between four iconic companies. The resulting game surpasses Ultimate by feeling like a 4-in-1 package, huddling different types of communities together

Konami and Square-Enix are out of this hypothetical for the time being, since the former still needs to work back the public's trust and the latter is notoriously stingy and let's face it: They'd provide the least amount of manpower creating a masterpiece like that. But other than that...

How would you guys feel about this sort of game?

That'd be fine with a few conditions.

1. We keep at least. Obviously Link, Pikachu, Peach and Zelda are likely to stay too.
2. We get two Mega Men(not counting Zero, who'd likely be in). , Ryu and Ken stay . Dante, Chun-Li, V. Joe and Jill are in too.
3. We get at least 2 Tekken characters.
4. Streets of Rage gets a lot of music in the game.

Honestly dude, I think you saved video games.

 

[KarneraMythos]

if all these characters are purely for promotion then I'm hyped for the new piranha plant game

Spoiler

I bet the back says, Piranha is Planting his feet firmly to the ground to take a stand. "I leaf no flower behind!"



I...uhhh...I'll just leave...

 

[ClaTheBae]

if all these characters are purely for promotion then I'm hyped for the new piranha plant game

Spoiler

I'm reposting this tomorrow when more people are awake because it's 4 am and I just spent 20 mins making that in ms paint it must be appreciated

 

[The_Naraotor]

With Nintendo choosing the newcomers Banjo and Geno have no chance. No credible insider has even talked about Banjo and it's extremely unlikely that Vergeben's Square Enix character is Geno.

Interesting so that could be either Sora or Lara Croft or any other Square Enix characters from Dragon Quest, I want to know so badly lol

 

[EnthusedPanda]

Nintendo’s removing racist caricatures from their games? Are they somehow admitting they were wrong?

Let’s you and me campaign for blackface Jynx as a Pokéball Pokémon. We shall ****ing overcome, fam.

 

[Knight Dude]

Nintendo wants to play it safe, Poochy, the Octolings, a new FE character and maybe a character from Rhythm Heaven, that's the kind of characters we should expect. Then again...

This exists....

I prefer Spyro in almost every regard. But Japan does like Crash a lot. He was even one of the biggest western games in Japan until Spider-Man PS4 came out and did it's thing.

So...Crash for Smash I guess.

 

[Iridium]

Uh, interesting "detail".

Not even sure how this was caught. Relevant, it is not, but animation errors are...okay.

Or, perhaps it's just him getting into his idle animation.

 

[MSmariosonic]

That'd be fine with a few conditions.

1. We keep at least. Obviously Link, Pikachu, Peach and Zelda are likely to stay too.
2. We get two Mega Men(not counting Zero, who'd likely be in). , Ryu and Ken stay . Dante, Chun-Li, V. Joe and Jill are in too.
3. We get at least 2 Tekken characters.
4. Streets of Rage gets a lot of music in the game.

Honestly dude, I think you saved video games.

So it's like the Project X Zone roster but better?

I'm in, yo

 

[MainJPW]

if all these characters are purely for promotion then I'm hyped for the new piranha plant game

Spoiler

With an official launch commercial featuring a new Piranha Plant music number just like the one for Super Mario RPG.

 

[ClaTheBae]

With an official launch commercial featuring a new Piranha Plant music number just like the one for Super Mario RPG.

what absolute crackhead looked at the piranha plants and was like "yep they would probably sound like this"

 

[papagenos]

With an official launch commercial featuring a new Piranha Plant music number just like the one for Super Mario RPG.

I'm so torn.

should I feel bummed geno didnt get in as a final base roster reveal and piranha plant did...
OR should I take piranha plant as our mario rpg (commercial) rep and be happy we got a nod to mario rpg haha

 

[KarneraMythos]

That'd be fine with a few conditions.

1. We keep at least. Obviously Link, Pikachu, Peach and Zelda are likely to stay too.
2. We get two Mega Men(not counting Zero, who'd likely be in). , Ryu and Ken stay . Dante, Chun-Li, V. Joe and Jill are in too.
3. We get at least 2 Tekken characters.
4. Streets of Rage gets a lot of music in the game.

Honestly dude, I think you saved video games.

Awww shucks! I mean, I'd hate to bring it up, but if BBTAG can do that sort of thing for niche series', I'm sure the bigger heads can pull it off too. Just some ideas off the top of my head:

For Nintendo, at least these 5:
-Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
-Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong Country)
-Link (The Legend of Zelda)
-Samus (Metroid)
-Captain Falcon (F-Zero)

For Sega, at least these 5:
-Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog)
-Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
-Sakura Shinguji (Sakura Wars)
-Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
-Demi-Fiend (Shin Megami Tensei)

For Capcom, at least these 5:
-Ryu (Street Fighter)
-Mega Man X (Mega Man)
-Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers)
-Strider Hiryu (Strider)
-Dante (Devil May Cry)

For Namco, at least these 5:
-Jin Kazama (Tekken)
-KOS-MOS (Xenosaga)
-Pac-Man (Pac-Man)
-Valkyrie (Legend of Valkyrie)
-Lloyd Irving (Tales Of)

And keep in mind, this is just 25% of what we could have across the board. Theres 20 other characters under each company that I haven't even listed.

Nintendo’s removing racist caricatures from their games? Are they somehow admitting they were wrong?

Let’s you and me campaign for blackface Jynx as a Pokéball Pokémon. We shall ****ing overcome, fam.

As long the redesign makes her look attractive by furry standards, I'm all for it [kappa]

 

[ZephyrZ]

Something about those singing Piranha Plants in that commercial really upset me for some reason, and no, it's not their voice. It's something to do with the way they're animated. I don't like it.

 

[ClaTheBae]

I'm so torn.

should I feel bummed geno didnt get in as a final base roster reveal and piranha plant did...
OR should I take piranha plant as our mario rpg (commercial) rep and be happy we got a nod to mario rpg haha

have hope for geno my guy. sakurai knows how popular he is, he'd be perfect for dlc right next to steve

 

[PLATINUM7]

With an official launch commercial featuring a new Piranha Plant music number just like the one for Super Mario RPG.

Piranha Plant was our SMRPG character this whole time.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Question: what are Poochy's powers and abilities?

Can barge through anything, can jump super high, can carry a dinosur and a baby both at once and the Poochy Pups can be fly to where secrets are and be thrown like eggs.

Also, is adorable and precious beyond belief.

 

[ClaTheBae]

papa liked my post boys I got the co-sign

 

[Zinith]

Can barge through anything, can jump super high, can carry a dinosur and a baby both at once and the Poochy Pups can be fly to where secrets are and be thrown like eggs.

Also, is adorable and precious beyond belief.

A blessed character...

 

[Captain Fun]

So we now know that Nintendo suggested the DLC characters. I wonder if that includes the Piranha Plant?

 

[osby]

So we now know that Nintendo suggested the DLC characters. I wonder if that includes the Piranha Plant?

Of course not.