Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Guh-Huzzah!]

You rang?

Rang? What's that?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm still waiting for new Final Smash footage as we got to see and cause of the new demo with only Luigi and Robin being the same. I want to see Greninja's though
EDIT: YOUNG LINK NOT ZELDA

 

[Idon]

And what's Chrom's final smash?

Another Chrom.
It's Chroms all the way down.

 

[Kuon]

I'm just kidding, your not going to lose your sanity over this. The original comic was funny, but then the weebs...

What about us "weebs"?

 

[Shroob]

Rang? What's that?

rang
/raNG/

1. past of ring2.

 

[Impa4Smash]

And what's Chrom's final smash?

More Chrom

It would be funny if it was Robin though

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

Man, I'm pretty miffed at Square right now.
My Geno bias aside, there is CLEARLY some disconnect with them compared to the other third parties in Smash right now. I attributed's limited representation in 4 to it being a more limited, DLC budget, but now that we know as much as we do about Ultimate, there's really no other justification.

Two songs, neither of them remixes. No assist trophy. Not a single Spirit in sight yet. No English/Steve Burton option. Final Fantasy got GIPPED. I dunno what the deal is, but I don't like it.

Actually, I believe Zach was spotted as a Spirit. No Assists is definitely a bummer though. And Steve Burton isn't coming in because of something legal I believe.

But you can chalk up not having any songs to UEMATSUUUUUUUUUUU

Final Fantasy 7-10 have some of my favorite music tracks from video games, but they're in his possession, not Square's IIRC. Which blows. But there's not much we can do about it, especially with his health waning in the past few years.

 

[Nekoo]

Man, I'm pretty miffed at Square right now.
My Geno bias aside, there is CLEARLY some disconnect with them compared to the other third parties in Smash right now. I attributed's limited representation in 4 to it being a more limited, DLC budget, but now that we know as much as we do about Ultimate, there's really no other justification.

Two songs, neither of them remixes. No assist trophy. Not a single Spirit in sight yet. No English/Steve Burton option. Final Fantasy got GIPPED. I dunno what the deal is, but I don't like it.

The deal was simple
"Yo, we let you take Cloud again, but no more music since our composer also want money...Wait? You want Geno and Chocobo as a mii costume and Icon for Ultimate? Yeah sure, whatever."
"Hmm? Okay, we give you the licence to SMRPG for your Snes mini"
"OKAY FINE, we will put more FF Games on the switch, even FFVII"
"Oh? You want insert X square enix well sure but only as DLC. Go ahead, with a stage and music."

What is the link between all of those deal?

Think of it.

What do Square-Enix win in all of those Deal?

$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $

 

[Deleted member]

I would like some gameplay of the Belmonts.

 

[Kuon]

More Chrom

It would be funny if it was Robin though

Wait, for real?

 

[Keyblader_Of_Smash]

What rumored/leaked characters are you referring to?

Most likely Sora, Steve (Mincraft) and Katalina from Granblue

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

rang
/raNG/

1. past of ring2.

I knew that definition, i just don't understand how i rang xD Figured it was some slang term i didn't know.

What about us "weebs"?

I was just joking around. I could care less if your a weeb.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Wait, for real?

It’s just Chrom attacking like Marth’s crit hit FS (his aether move)

 

[Icedragonadam]

Probably the SE Rep, Minecraft content, and possibly Granblue character

It's now looking unlikely Katalina will be added. The DLC may have been cut characters from the base or at the very least around the time the Base Roster was decided. Cygames and Nintendo have been in talks around 2017 which is around the time I guess when Dragalia Lost started development. It would be too late for her.

 

[Iridium]

If you mean the one from yesterday, we saw how classic is evokes the source material of each fighter in some way, we saw a lot of spirits mechanics and we saw some menus. We did not see World of Light.

Are they supposed to do one today?

It's what Sakurai says here:

この後Nintendo Liveで、スマブラ大会決勝戦の解説をします。その直後、ひとり用モードの一部をご紹介します。
ダイレクトを楽しめる方なら、きっと見応えあると思います！https://t.co/yw8KxYhT1O

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) November 3, 2018

After the event, he says that the adventure mode will be shown off, so...

 

[RyuhoFox]

Bowsette is great. Outside her giant breasts it's mostly pretty tame as well so not sure why it would be something to freak out over unless fads of any kind just twist your knickers

 

[Kuon]

That seems like double-think to me, as in thinking two contradictory thoughts at once. In this case, it just comes across as you wanting to cover all of your bases in case the character does get in.

At the end of the day, "I'd be happy if x character doesn't get in" is a mean statement, and at best can be neutral given good context.

Not good. If this is true and we're getting Katalina (or negotiations for DLC are still ongoing) I'd say we're likely going to see a second season of DLC, or at the very least more characters than our current 6.

Fair enough. I mean, I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of Sora, but if he does get in, I won't be mad. I'll be happy for you, since it seems you really want him in. But there are other characters I would prefer. However, I do think Sora makes a lot of sense for DLC (more so than Geno, who makes little sense for DLC).

 

[PsySmasher]

The ones from Vergeben and Hitagi: a Square Enix rep, Minecraft, and talks of negotiations about Katalina from Granblue Fantasy

True. All of these characters could've been picked around December 2015 without any ballot influence. But if we do get characters like Geno (if he is the Square rep), and Bandana Waddle Dee as part of the 5 characters, then I think it's fair to say the ballot has SOME influence on DLC.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Double post, please delete

Yeah i know. The joke was referring to how a lot of weebs are just...really horny...

 

[Kuon]

I knew that definition, i just don't understand how i rang xD Figured it was some slang term i didn't know.



I was just joking around. I could care less if your a weeb.

lol but I'm not a weeb. I'm an anime fan, and a fan of anime-games, but that's not what a weeb is.

 

[Pakky]

Chun Li theme plays when Ryu goes through classic mode and fights ZZS

If we were to get a second SF rep I'd want Chun-Li too. Toned af legs need more representation:

But Ken would be guaranteed. Easy Echo.

Because of these model changes it makes me suspicious

Spoiler: Chun LI model SF4

 

[Kuon]

Yeah i know. The joke was referring to how a lot of weebs are just...really horny...

I understand. It's fine

 

[Nethermoosen]

It's what Sakurai says here:

この後Nintendo Liveで、スマブラ大会決勝戦の解説をします。その直後、ひとり用モードの一部をご紹介します。
ダイレクトを楽しめる方なら、きっと見応えあると思います！https://t.co/yw8KxYhT1O

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) November 3, 2018

After the event, he says that the adventure mode will be shown off, so...

Then yeah, weird. Cause he only showed us the spirits and classic mode. He showed some of the vault, like the store and the help section.

Technically, I guess, the spirits are a part of adventure mode, but you don’t see any gameplay of it. Just basically a spirit tutorial.

He shows how you get random selections of spirits to fight, you click one, you fight it. Then you get a chance to shoot their spirit away and obtain it.

He showed us how the spirits level up outside of battle and how they evolve from novice level to legend or whatever.

He also shows how spirits can be broken into components and then used to create others you don’t already have.

That was about it.

 

[Chandeelure]

"While Rex didn't quite make the roster, hopefully this costume makes you feel like you are playing as him!"

Some Smash fans: Rex will be a DLC newcomer, guys!

lol

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai also chanhed MK's FS even though his past one was fine. It's a clone of Greninja's though
which in itself is a clone of Zoroark's pokeball summon

Man, I'm pretty miffed at Square right now.
My Geno bias aside, there is CLEARLY some disconnect with them compared to the other third parties in Smash right now. I attributed's limited representation in 4 to it being a more limited, DLC budget, but now that we know as much as we do about Ultimate, there's really no other justification.

Two songs, neither of them remixes. No assist trophy. Not a single Spirit in sight yet. No English/Steve Burton option. Final Fantasy got JIPPED. I dunno what the deal is, but I don't like it.

FF's representation would have been acceptable back in Brawl but now that 3rd Parties aren't treated any differently from 1st Parties, it really sticks out like a sore thumb.
And it's a shame, because Square has by far the most content I'd like to see from any other 3P company. From unrepped franchises, to new fighters, stages, music, Assist Trophies and Spirits. None of that seems to even have a chance of making it in.

 

[Deleted member]

Chun Li theme plays when Ryu goes through classic mode and fights ZZS

Because of these model changes it makes me suspicious

Spoiler: Chun LI model SF4

I love how Zero Samus looks in Ultimate.

She looks stronger and more athletic, as it should be.

 

[Noipoi]

Wait, is there a stream right now?

 

[Kuon]

True. All of these characters could've been picked around December 2015 without any ballot influence. But if we do get characters like Geno (if he is the Square rep), and Bandana Waddle Dee as part of the 5 characters, then I think it's fair to say the ballot has SOME influence on DLC.

True, it could possibly have some influence on it, but not all

 

[LetterO]

If the DLC was planned for base theory is true, then chances for Doomguy and Crash just went alot lower, unfortunately.

 

[Paperchampion23]

It’s just Chrom attacking like Marth’s crit hit FS (his aether move)

It's a little more unique at least to me

 

[Cutie Gwen]

We saw the World of Light menu icon, and we see Rathalos, Galeem, Werewolf King Bulbin and Lumen Sage on it. Possibly just random spirits thrown around but god that'd be sick to fight them as bosses

 

[Impa4Smash]

We’re sleeping on the most likely Rep.

Nintendo was in talks with Bethesda over Smash. Clearly Doomguy Todd Howard will be in. His FS is downloading a Skyrim demo over your Smash data



But please give me Doomguy for DLC

 

[Deleted member]

If the DLC was planned for base theory is true, then chances for Doomguy and Crash just went alot lower, unfortunately.

We may get a second batch with Crash if the first one sells great.

 

[Shroob]

I'm not going to go too deeply into Papageno's source because that's for him to decide if he wants to out them, but I know who it is and I have a pretty good sense why he believed them.

This wasn't really a case of intentional duping, but that is honestly worse because it's harder to vet. I've been a part of these leak discussions for years now, you can usually tell when you're being lied to, and when you're not. It just so happens that even when you're not being lied to, it doesn't mean the info is correct.

So basically:


Papa's source believed the Grinch leak, or was this just a case of telephone gone wrong?

 

[Impa4Smash]

It's a little more unique at least to me

It is. I didn't do it justice in describing it. It's at least a cinematic

 

[Plumstar]

Bruh, this is not your super smash bros' World of Light

THIS IS

lol, we've been living a lie, this isn't a smash game. It's secretly the sequel to Kirby Star Allies, where the smashers are all dream friends and the final boss is Zero 3.
Also, where did you get that pic? Did you make it yourself? I really like it.

 

[Noipoi]

We saw the World of Light menu icon, and we see Rathalos, Galeem, Werewolf King Bulbin and Lumen Sage on it. Possibly just random spirits thrown around but god that'd be sick to fight them as bosses

What stream are you watching?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Sakurai also chanhed MK's FS even though his past one was fine. It's a clone of Greninja's though
which in itself is a clone of Zoroark's pokeball summon

FF's representation would have been acceptable back in Brawl but now that 3rd Parties aren't treated any differently from 1st Parties, it really sticks out like a sore thumb.
And it's a shame, because Square has by far the most content I'd like to see from any other 3P company. From unrepped franchises, to new fighters, stages, music, Assist Trophies and Spirits. None of that seems to even have a chance of making it in.

tbf Meta Knight seems to actually use **** he does in Kirby now, animation looks like the glide attack in Super Star when he flies from one side of the screen to the other, although Meta Knight does this in Star Allies

 

[Kuon]

It's now looking unlikely Katalina will be added. The DLC may have been cut characters from the base or at the very least around the time the Base Roster was decided. Cygames and Nintendo have been in talks around 2017 which is around the time I guess when Dragalia Lost started development. It would be too late for her.

They could have been talking about a partnership, but it's not like she couldn't be added as a character without a partnership being made. They could've decided to add her without the partnership being made in 2017. Or she could've been the last pick for DLC and all the other picks were when the base roster were decided. Just an idea. I wouldn't completely rule her out just yet, at least not until Vergeben and Hitagi say more on the matter

 

[Naiko3232]

We saw the World of Light menu icon, and we see Rathalos, Galeem, Werewolf King Bulbin and Lumen Sage on it. Possibly just random spirits thrown around but god that'd be sick to fight them as bosses

Rathalos was there so the probability is high.