Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CannonStreak]

I agree. So it’s not like we should take his Smash info as the only truth.

Of course. No insider's word is really true word.

 

[Idon]

Who? Geno?

Are you aware that Square Enix also owns Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Tomb Raider, Star Ocean and Drakengard/Nier?

When you tell yourself these lies for so long pretty soon you'll start to believe em.

That said, in purely the Smash bubble, Geno is getting the hardest push, bar none.

 

[Kuon]

Castlevania has a lot of protagonists. Simon is one of the main ones but the other major reoccurring ones are Alucard, Richter, Trevor, Gabriel, and Soma Cruz. Most are members of the Belmont clan, a family of vampire hunters that spans centuries. I believe Simon stars in the most with three games if I remember correctly plus a ton of cameos.

My goodness. I had no idea there were so many! Was Simon the first one though?

 

[Opossum]

Yea this whole too good to be true from the grinch roster

How did

Even get in then

And several thing are in the fan favor

Look no matter what insiders say or what team fake throws

I’m still sticking with 50/50 leaning toward real

Chrom and Daisy were absolutely relevant though. They were still being used in a bunch of things right up until their reveals.

 

[staindgrey]

I see just as many (if not more) people talking about B&K than Geno honestly

Yeah, but I'm far less annoyed by it.

I really do hope that Geno fans get what they want. But the conversations around Geno in this thread are driving me up a wall. I swear only like 20% of the people talking about him have ever even touched the one game he was in twenty years ago.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Nihon Falcom knows how to make good games, and good music

If I didn't already know how much of a shot in the dark it would be, I'd so be on Team Dana.

Kingdom of Eternia stage included.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

All this talk of how relevancy is essential to character additions when everybody seems to be forgetting Richter's last major appearance was 1997...As far as I'm concerned, Richter hardcore torpedoed that argument.

Richter is only an echo though.

 

[DJ3DS]

This. Like before Brawl when was the last time we saw R.O.B.? I know that's the "retro" character and all, but I think relevancy has little to do with any addition.

My bet for tomorrow? I put all my chips on Mr. Saturn.

Within 5 years before, actually. And in a playable role.

 

[Shroob]

Isabelle is a popular character these days. Anyone could have predicted her easily, or decide to go with her and think she would get revealed. Just saying.

That's great and all, but in said prediction video he 'also' said ports of FF7, 9, 10 and 10-2 and at the time an unknown port of Kirby's Epic Yarn for the 3DS.


All alongside a non-Echo Isabelle is highly, highly suspicious.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Chorus Kids, for me. Rhythm Heaven should have a character at this point, and as the resident Chrom fan, well...you don't leave a man (or three) behind.

or 4, if the Grinch leak is somehow legit... (you can't forget the conductor...)

 

[Nekoo]

Oh boy...ZhugeEX himself commented on the ResetERA thread

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Seems a few people here are putting pieces together.

For people who will asks, ZhugeEX is a VERY reliable industry analyst when it comes to sales, and all of that economical stuff more...Important stuff who happens to have tons of **** right by sometimes teasing things-


Supposedly, it seems that people at ResetERA are gettig close to the truth with their speculation?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So...Sakurai should make Pit a Top Tier character

 

[Kuon]

Yeah, but I'm far less annoyed by it.

I really do hope that Geno fans get what they want. But the conversations around Geno in this thread are driving me up a wall. I swear only like 20% of the people talking about him have ever even touched the one game he was in twenty years ago.

Makes sense. I've never played SMRPG. My best friend has, and I only want Geno in because he wants Geno in. Otherwise, I know very little about him and don't really care much about him.

 

[Originality]

Yeah, but I'm far less annoyed by it.

I really do hope that Geno fans get what they want. But the conversations around Geno in this thread are driving me up a wall. I swear only like 20% of the people talking about him have ever even touched the one game he was in twenty years ago.

I'll admit I've never played the game, but he seems very memorable and close to people who have and I do really like his design so I'd be pretty happy if he was in the game.

 

[paper roxy]

I remind y'all to temper your expectations for Thursday; Nintendo (and Sakurai especially) has a knack for taking our expectations and flipping them on their heads. We were expecting Simon and got Richter too, we were expecting Isabelle to be a Villager clone but she received her own moveset and while most of us are expecting at least half a dozen new characters, Mashed Potato Samurai can toss all of that on its head with only a handful of newcomers.

Just stay chill.

i mean, the thing is, all of those other ones are all good things. i cant think of a suprise from sakurai in terms of ultimate that was as negative as "this insanely credible leak with these fan favorites is fake and you just get the ugly bara cat and minecraft steve"

 

[CannonStreak]

That's great and all, but in said prediction video he 'also' said ports of FF7, 9, 10 and 10-2 and at the time an unknown port of Kirby's Epic Yarn for the 3DS.


All alongside a non-Echo Isabelle is highly, highly suspicious.

That doesn't mean he knew about them, though. It could have been lucky, or if you will, educated guesses, maybe.

 

[Noipoi]

I just gotta say I love how Noipoi 's art is slowly taking over this thread. Sooner or later we'll all have Noipoi avatars.

NO!
YOU REVEALED MY SECRET PLOT TO TAKE OVER THE BOARDS AND THEN THE WORLD!

 

[TVDart]

To all my Rhythm Heaven fans, let's all smile together. While not everyone will be getting what they want, I hope that no one is left disappointed in the end. Let's be comfy for this last day of wondering.

 

[Gyrom8]

One character from the Banner 7 is in the game. The other 6 aren't.

You get to choose.

Who are you going to pick?

Personally, it's Banjo-Kazooie for me. That game was my absolute favourite when I was a kid and I played it on repeat.

Either Chorus Kids or Banjo Kazooie. Mach Rider would also be nice due to the possibility for a fun moveset, but I don't feel that Smash would be severely lacking anything if they didn't make the cut.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Oh boy...ZhugeEX himself commented on the ResetERA thread

Source




For people who will asks, ZhugeEX is a VERY reliable industry analyst when it comes to sales, and all of that economical stuff more...Important stuff who happens to have tons of **** right by sometimes teasing things-


Supposedly, it seems that people at ResetERA are gettig close to the truth with their speculation?

What have those guy's been talking about lately?

 

[Shroob]

That doesn't mean he knew about them, though. It could have been lucky, or if you will, educated guesses, maybe.

"I'm going to pull a game no one else in the entire world is considering and it just happens to come true."


No, that's a leak.



Jon's a ResetEra mod, he knows ****.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I think this post makes a better case for DQ in Smash than I ever could, though. If you feel like it, check it out: It's the first post, obviously.

Magnifiscent post.
Certainly a good reminder of the ridiculously huge ammounts of support DQ has given Nintendo since the NES era.
Only reason why we might not see any content in Smash is because it's just TOO BIG.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I can’t seem to find the Mii Fighters on the banner leak even tho they were on the other banner. Can anyone else want them out for me?

Where Luigi and Rob were (near bayonetta). They subsequently moved to where Diddy Kong and Ken are

 

[Idon]

My goodness. I had no idea there were so many! Was Simon the first one though?

Game-wise, yes. He's the Castlevania 1 protagonist.

However, canonically, Leon Belmont would be the first man named Belmont who would "hunt the night" as he so put it.

Since then, he's had a ****ton of descendants and branching families and that makes for a LOT of games, with Julius Belmont being the last Belmont chronologically.
That's not even counting the playable characters that aren't Belmonts like Shonoa, Soma, and most notably, ALUCARD.

 

[mezbomber]

After seeing the GX "predictions", much of that sounds horribly lackluster and so incongruent with current speculation and insider info that it just looks like obvious leak bait.

IMHO, while there's certainly reasons to be skeptical of the blurry banner, a picture has a certain amount of inherent credibility over insider info without such supporting evidence. You can suspend disbelief in the fact that someone somewhere absolutely has the time and desire to fabricate the Grinch leak (as intricate as they may seem to some), or have faith in an insider's previous history and that they're truthful about their sources.

It's not hard to see both sides, and our interpretations/opinions ULTIMATELY don't matter apart from being fun and entertaining. If this debate and speculation isn't fun for you, or you're making it no fun for others, you're doing it wrong and I advise you to stop.

In conclusion, this thread has been a wild ride and I've had a great time with y'all. Thanks. Can't wait for Thursday, and definitely can't wait for December!! I just alwayswant more characters. GIVE ME MORE CHARACTERS, AND PLEASE NEVER STOP.

 

[Matoi]

If it’s real

Can’t wait to see the looks on the insiders faces that they were wrong

Same. Only ones I kinda respect right now are Mystic and also Vergeben since Verge was the only one providing information after E3

 

[staindgrey]

did you read the parenthesis

I did. Doesn't really apply since every franchise I named except Tomb Raider and Nier has more games on Nintendo consoles than Geno does. And both Tomb Raider and Nier have so much exposure that even if you're simply a family member of someone who likes videogames, you know who those characters are.

Geno is a beloved side character in a cult classic game from two decades ago. He has adoring fans who want him in Smash. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking he's more than that.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hey Noipoi think you could crop the Elma part of your poster for use for my avatar?

 

[Potato_]

"I'm going to pull a game no one else in the entire world is considering and it just happens to come true."


No, that's a leak.



Jon's a ResetEra mod, he knows ****.

On top of this he specifically mentioned the 3ds when I bet most people, if they even considered Epic Yarn, would've said a Switch remake.

It's VERY specific to be a lucky guess.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

Yeah, but I'm far less annoyed by it.

I really do hope that Geno fans get what they want. But the conversations around Geno in this thread are driving me up a wall. I swear only like 20% of the people talking about him have ever even touched the one game he was in twenty years ago.

It's almost like a significant amount of his support comes from bandwagoners or something.

 

[Diem]

Within 5 years before, actually. And in a playable role.

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I miss my boy in Mario Kart. Don't know why he's not in future games. He's more unique than the needless variations of Mario and Peach.

 

[ZephyrZ]

NO!
YOU REVEALED MY SECRET PLOT TO TAKE OVER THE BOARDS AND THEN THE WORLD!

To be honest I could think of far worse evil overlords to be enslaved by.

 

[Nekoo]

What have those guy's been talking about lately?

Geno/Isaac's fates.
Sora being in or not.
They all feels that Mach Riders is an AT, and that there is chance that Geno might one too sadly.
Chorus Kids Being AT too.
They feel somehow comfortable with Isaac being in.

Banjo seems to be out somehow-

 

[Demon-oni]

This. Like before Brawl when was the last time we saw R.O.B.? I know that's the "retro" character and all, but I think relevancy has little to do with any addition.

My bet for tomorrow? I put all my chips on Mr. Saturn.

Actually, before Brawl ROB last had an appearance in mario kart DS in 2005, Before that was as part of the Mute City stage in melee in 2001, then his successor ROB 64 was in Starfox 64. Never really a star, but even outside of his series he's had a stable appearance.

 

[paper roxy]

I did. Doesn't really apply since every franchise I named except Tomb Raider and Nier has more games on Nintendo consoles than Geno does. And both Tomb Raider and Nier have so much exposure that even if you're simply a family member of someone who likes videogames, you know who those characters are.

Geno is a beloved side character in a cult classic game from two decades ago. He has adoring fans who want him in Smash. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking he's more than that.

well if we dont count the anime twinks hes the most popular character they have if that works lol

 

[StrawHatX]

I still think Isaac, Geno, Ken, and Shadow are likely. I think Banjo is getting in whether it’s base or DLC. Chorus Kids make sense also.

After that I don’t know. I guess Incineroar since everyone is sayin he’s in.

As someone who is neutral on this leak now I’d still prefer it to be real. Mach Rider would be great.

 

[Raspberry]

The very first noise after the Smash Bros intro

At the same time, imagine how this thread would react if this was the very first noise after the Smash Bros intro.

 

[Zinith]

To be honest I could think of far worse evil overlords to be enslaved by.

Oh boy, I can't possibly know what you're talking about...

Spoiler

 

[Just a random scrub]

I just gotta say I love how Noipoi 's art is slowly taking over this thread. Sooner or later we'll all have Noipoi avatars.

I've actually been considering changing my avatar to this for a while;


...Might I might not anyway, I don't like changing my avatar too frequently and will probably eventually go back to my ice dragon one from before.

Yeah I noticed that too XD

I'm considering giving him a request for a new profile pic for me. Maybe some other day.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh boy...ZhugeEX himself commented on the ResetERA thread

Source




For people who will asks, ZhugeEX is a VERY reliable industry analyst when it comes to sales, and all of that economical stuff more...Important stuff who happens to have tons of **** right by sometimes teasing things-


Supposedly, it seems that people at ResetERA are gettig close to the truth with their speculation?

Oh dang.

Things are getting interesting. ZhugeEX is a pretty reliable guy, isn't he? If he's saying people are starting to get on the right track, I wonder who he's talking about...