Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Why can't leakers for once buy an iPhone or a Sony camera, it'd make everything easier

Because Snapchat is still gonna compress your video to save data.

 

[vaanrose]

There's also a lot of areas that are covered up by characters that without distortion/blurriness are spot-on accurate.

Please point them out. We specifically went looking for anything that was present in the leak and the empty banner that was hidden in all versions of the banner with characters, and we didn't find anything.

 

[DutchPichu]

Well, my reason to be on team real, is how small the details are NOBODY thought of... except Sakurai. Look at the Chorus Kids. Nobody on any forum ever would have guessed the presence of the conductor in their little artwork... or even in their moveset. You have to be a mastermind like Sakurai to think about these things. Main reason why I think it's real.

Then there are other small things:
-Djinn in front of Isaac. I feel like nobody would ever think of that in a banner art ... except the Smash Bros. team.
-The wristband thing. I wouldn't think of that when I think about Smash promotional material. Who would? The Smash team.
-Mach Rider having a bike.
-Incineroar is not on it. Not one fake leaker would take the risk of not putting Incineroar in, because well... Vergeben was most credible... Till now.

 

[Kawaki&Boruto98]

if this leak is real then shouldn't the guy who shared that be sued or something?

 

[vaanrose]

if this leak is real then shouldn't the guy who shared that be sued or something?

Such a thing wouldn't even be public knowledge if it did occur.

 

[Kawaki&Boruto98]

If this leak is real i'm surprised incenerator isn't there. after all the previous leaks

 

[DNeon]

if this leak is real then shouldn't the guy who shared that be sued or something?

If it's fake they're still risking retaliation. A promotions firm being attached is a serious blunder.

 

[Deleted member]

It's none of the above. Objects that would be very visible are missing. Literal sections of the stage are cut. Certain objects are deformed in an extensive manner (as in more than half of the object is missing).







What's curious is that every single one of these inconsistencies is exactly where there are characters that hide that section.

So if I, who has not one ounce of photoshop or artistic skill, were to cut all the characters from the official mural and then fill in the blank with my own drawings, I would end up with the exact same places being "identical to the official artwork" as the leak and the exact same places being "inconsistent" as the leak.

I wasn't skeptical until I saw this specific pattern arise.

No, it's not "none of the above" it's literally All Of The Above, COMBINED. That's the point you're missing, as those are the conditions under which the screens were taken.

So, the only way to accurately prove the leaked image is fake, is by holding the EXACT image seen in Eric's Snapchat, scanning it, and comparing it with the original. In other words, you're wasting your time with this wild goose chase, as you're willfully ignoring the significant impact all these contributing factors provide in order to try and poke ONE hole in this leak.

And that's still not even contending with all the evidence supporting it, as the backgrounds being different can literally be explained with the art being updated. Nothing uncommon at all in this industry.

 

[DutchPichu]

If it's fake they're still risking retaliation. A promotions firm being attached is a serious blunder.

Yeah, so why would you leak a fake to risk your job? Another point why I think it's real.

 

[FixedFun]

if this leak is real then shouldn't the guy who shared that be sued or something?

Replace Granpa with Sakurai (or Nintendo) and Santa with the name of the leaker:

This is the future

 

[Nap_]

Here you go:

Thanks!
Man, this kind of happy family videos give me creeps.

 

[Kawaki&Boruto98]

Replace Granpa with Sakurai and Santa with the name of the leaker:

This is the future

wut :|

 

[Abha]

Replace Granpa with Sakurai and Santa with the name of the leaker:

This is the future

No don't, I already saw this awful movie enough when it played every Christmas on CN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvXUlXQ8LQM

 

[Chiroz]

There's also a lot of areas that are covered up by characters that without distortion/blurriness are spot-on accurate.

Nope, not one me and Vaan could find. We were literally looking for this exact thing, and when I noticed that every single area covered by a character is different and has inconsistencies I changed to team fake. If you want I can send you a file that makes it really easy for you to check yourself.

The reason the leak is so accurate is because there's actually a ton of areas that are uncovered between all the versions we've had of characters moved around (3 versions).

 

[Aaron1997]

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

i am not convinced that this ride ever ends

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I'm just not reading too much into anything either way.

There were flaws in the real leak last time too, so it's like ''Still could be real."

There are flaws and it could be because it's fake and it's so blurry and small and done in the way it's done because they wanted to hide even bigger problems than those found.

It's just such an oddly piece together leak that I'm just waiting and seeing and whatever happens happens.

i am not convinced that this ride ever ends

Oh god.

This is the MvC2 theme come back as a leak.

It's out for a vengeance.

It's not happy we replaced it in Marvel vs Capcom 3. It's not happy with what Capcom did to Infinite in general.

It is not happy.

It's out for blood and we'll never get away.

 

[Kawaki&Boruto98]

was there leaks in smash 4 that turned out to be right?

 

[DNeon]

The blank background is from E3, however, all the visible parts still perfectly align with the current banner on the website. I went looking for anything that was different from the current banner compared to the E3 one for evidence it was a living design, but I didn't find anything.

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

Apparently there's this?

 

[Cristaran]

I'm just not reading too much into anything either way.

There were flaws in the real leak last time too, so it's like ''Still could be real."

There are flaws and it could be because it's fake and it's so blurry and small and done in the way it's done because they wanted to hide even bigger problems than those found.

It's just such an oddly piece together leak that I'm just waiting and seeing and whatever happens happens.



Oh god.

This is the MvC2 theme come back as a leak.

It's out for a vengeance.

It's not happy we replaced it in Marvel vs Capcom 3. It's not happy with what Capcom did to Infinite in general.

It is not happy.

It's out for blood and we'll never get away.

I enjoy this ride

 

[FixedFun]

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

This is a rollercosater of emotions, and I don't what to feel

 

[Penroze]

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

[VIBRATES INTENSELY]

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Well, my reason to be on team real, is how small the details are NOBODY thought of... except Sakurai. Look at the Chorus Kids. Nobody on any forum ever would have guessed the presence of the conductor in their little artwork... or even in their moveset. You have to be a mastermind like Sakurai to think about these things. Main reason why I think it's real.

I like the little details but I don't think necessary proves it. It is possible the leaker had researched them beforehand, the conductor was in the Chorus kids trophy too.

 

[Penroze]

Hey now that the background is pretty much revealed to have actually officially changed, could someone tell me what other arguments there are for Team Fake

 

[Nap_]

Good thing that I'm a unbeliever about almost anything. The leak could turn real in a Direct and I still be surprised.
I should take a break about this, personally I need more proof in a way or another. This leak it's a dead end for me.

 

[NotLiquid]

Personally I don't think that castle spire is evidence of anything because the E3 pic is already somewhat exposed as is - a majority of the background details in the horizon are much brighter than the actual character poster, and it could likely hide that portion.

Also I went back to the E3 footage, and the castle is already there in the background, so presumably the E3 materials are identical.

Even if that was added post-E3, that is the only evidence of something that's changed - and it's an addition, not a redraw. Everything about this leak background on the other hand, is a redraw, most of it for the worse.

 

[Polan]

Hey now that the background is pretty much revealed to have actually officially changed, could someone tell me what other arguments there are for Team Fake

no one has convincingly argued why sakurai said "we're slowing the pace of reveals down" despite having 7 more characters left to reveal in the span of a month

 

[Garo]

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

I think this was brought up some pages back already, but don't remember if anything came of it.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Hey now that the background is pretty much revealed to have actually officially changed, could someone tell me what other arguments there are for Team Fake

I might argue there are still too much inconsistent to dismiss that argument.
Another would be it might still be a really professional fake.

I don't really have much arguments tbh, so we can only wait.

 

[Penroze]

Personally I don't think that castle spire is evidence of anything because the E3 pic is already somewhat exposed as is - a majority of the background details in the horizon are much brighter than the actual character poster, and it could likely hide that portion.

Also I went back to the E3 footage, and the castle is already there in the background, so presumably the E3 materials are identical.

Even if that was added post-E3, that is the only evidence of something that's changed - and it's an addition, not a redraw. Everything about this leak background on the other hand, is a redraw, most of it for the worse.

What's your opinion on the waterfall that is supposedly also officially changed (being less detailed and all)?

no one has convincingly argued why sakurai said "we're slowing the pace of reveals down" despite having 7 more characters left to reveal in the span of a month

SAKURAI'S TRICKING US HE'S LYING HE'S DOING A JAPE

 

[Cristaran]

This has been a fun speculation so far, i think we can survive on this until the direct

 

[vaanrose]

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436387397

Has this been addressed?

Those towers are clearly present in every version of the banner.

 

[NotLiquid]

What's your opinion on the waterfall that is supposedly also officially changed (being less detailed and all)?

I honestly don't think it's changed much at all.

Looking at the full E3 banner, the shimmering effect on the waterfall strands are fairly soft, and I feel what's throwing people off is again, overexposure on the camera captured banner. The actual direct feed banner has overall less exposure and more muted brightness/colors.

 

[MSmariosonic]

I see the leak now leans more towards fake, eh?

We need a direct

 

[SoccerStar9001]

no one has convincingly argued why sakurai said "we're slowing the pace of reveals down" despite having 7 more characters left to reveal in the span of a month

Despite being team fake, I am gonna make an argument for this one.

…That said, if you were thinking that we’d just be dropping a bunch of newcomer trailers all the way up until release, you’d be sorely mistaken. We may have gone a little bit overboard up until now, so we’re going to slow our pace from here on out. (Source Gaming btw)

It is possible that Sakurai meant slowing down the pace of the amount of directs, not the amount of characters. So instead of multiple one character directs, we now have one (or two) MASSIVE Smash direct revealing multiple characters. That could explain why there has been pretty much no reveals for October.

 

[Isaac for Smash Pls]

I just hope we keep dancing back and forth between real and fake long enough for the actual direct to hit.

This is the most entertaining thing to happen since 8.8

 

[UberMadman]

Spoiler: Really big image

At the very least, it certainly seems to be present in the E3 Direct.

 

[HyruleHero]

no one has convincingly argued why sakurai said "we're slowing the pace of reveals down" despite having 7 more characters left to reveal in the span of a month

If we only have one more direct then the pace has been slowed as we would only have one more reveal. He doesn't say that there aren't multiple characters left he just said that the pace is going to be slower.

 

[LoboRundas]

Despite being team fake, I am gonna make an argument for this one.

It is possible that Sakurai meant slowing down the pace of the amount of directs, not the amount of characters. So instead of multiple one character directs, we now have one (or two) MASSIVE Smash direct revealing multiple characters. That could explain why there has been pretty much no reveals for October.

If this ends up being real, one wonders why he didn't at least drop a single trailer before a final beefy direct. Maybe Isaac on his own, for example, and all the other guys for the direct. Either way it would be fine to have the direct soon.

 

[osby]

This thread has finally slowed down.