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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Cutie Gwen

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My issue with the "well we had no direct for a month so it's slowed down" is they can just pull a Robin and drop an announcement in order to still stir up hype and have less to need to talk about when the next Direct finally arrives.

Also the only thing that makes sense out of this stupid mess to me after thinking for a few hours Mach Rider's gun and the mech's gun
 

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If this ends up being real, one wonders why he didn't at least drop a single trailer before a final beefy direct. Maybe Isaac on his own, for example, and all the other guys for the direct. Either way it would be fine to have the direct soon.
Maybe that rumour about Isaac originally being in the last Nintendo direct with Isabelle was true and they did remove him because of the earthquakes... Conspiracy theories...
 

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Sadly, now that my hype has subsided I'm feeling that the picture was too good to be true.

It's an amazing roster and I'd rather be a pessimist I think.

Still strongly support Banjo, Shadow and now Mach Rider (it was previously Excitebiker but I've switched)
 

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Wake up to to the KHinsider translator saying there one Characters Missing but it will make sense as of why

Then Spawn-Wave Characters who is seemingly missing

god... Why you must hurt me so much?
 

Tree Gelbman

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Do you realize that if this comes true...

One of the most loud and passionate fanbases left will be for Waluigi.

Waluigi.

Let that sink in.

That's how complete Smash Brothers is getting.
 

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Has anyone yet mentioned the fact that if the leak is fake then the fake leaker even making a no-character background would have been a really unnecessary and risky move?
 

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Maybe that rumour about Isaac originally being in the last Nintendo direct with Isabelle was true and they did remove him because of the earthquakes... Conspiracy theories...
That isn't really a rumor, it was a theory (AGAMETHEORYYYYYYYYYYY). Isabelle's trailer seems to be isolated as it starts by trying to make us guess whether it is a new AC or a Smash newcomer trailer and then it ended with an announcement of a new AC, so I am not sure I buy that theory.
 

Tree Gelbman

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Has anyone yet mentioned the fact that if the leak is fake then the fake leaker even making a no-character background would have been a really unnecessary and risky move?
This is definitely something I thought about.

All these things that have been pulled out to light would simply be because the leaker gave us or rather those of us capable of doing so the materials to deconstruct his leak.

Truly an idiot trapped in the mind of a somewhat genius.
 
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Damn y'all I been tryin to keep my hype under control so I don't get dissapointed as hell if this leak is fake but DAMN y'all making it real hard lol :)
 

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-Come on, you can see the differences between those blurry and subject to changes backgrounds.
-Those towers are just a pixel mess.
-OH RIGHT, COOL! How do you make a leak then, Mrs. Insider?
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Has anyone yet mentioned the fact that if the leak is fake then the fake leaker even making a no-character background would have been a really unnecessary and risky move?
The fact that he had an empty background was one of the reasons many people believed it, or at least leaned in to giving it the benefit. It took half a day for anybody to find the official empty banner. Most people, myself included, didn't even know it existed. So, the flipside to this argument is, it clearly benefited the leak to have it.
 

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*conspiracy time*

Daily reminder that there's always a possibility Nintendo themselves have made this faulty leak (with artifacts that give it away added on purpose) which actually introduces all the characters they're planning on and that they've done this in order to build temporary hype, then disappointment once it finally gets proven fake, then hype again once all these fighters are actually present in the last Direct after no one was expecting them to appear anymore.
 
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*conspiracy time*

Daily reminder that there's always a possibility Nintendo themselves have made this faulty leak (with artifacts that give it away added on purpose) which actually introduces all the characters they're planning on and that they've done this in order to build temporary hype, then disappointment once it finally gets proven fake, then hype again once all these fighters are actually present in the last Direct after no one was expecting them to appear anymore.
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SoccerStar9001

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Didn't Phil (Head of Xbox) tweeted not too long ago that he is still willing to have Banjo in Smash? Would that not be breaking the NDA if Banjo is very much in Smash? Just curious.
 

BeardyBennett

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Didn't Phil (Head of Xbox) tweeted not too long ago that he is still willing to have Banjo in Smash? Would that not be breaking the NDA if Banjo is very much in Smash? Just curious.
He's not saying Banjo is in Smash, just that he would like to see it. Hardly NDA-breaking
 
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Didn't Phil (Head of Xbox) tweeted not too long ago that he is still willing to have Banjo in Smash? Would that not be breaking the NDA if Banjo is very much in Smash? Just curious.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...njo_and_kazooie_appearing_in_super_smash_bros

Spencer is open to it and nothing more. Obviously didn't/wouldn't confirm it, so he didn't break an NDA (if there is one)

Don't think it means too much anyway tbh as there would be so many more moving parts involved to get a character in Smash.
 
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For me, Occam’s razor helps explain this.

The easiest solution is likely the right one.

All the evidence of the paper trail and art adjustment makes me still go team real.
 

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Morning buckos! what has happened the past 8 or so hours?
Still catching up but I don't think you missed anything major: there's a bit more doubt surrounding the leak re: background details, but nothing to tip the scale either way. Realistically, I don't think that'll happen until the Smash direct itself.
 

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Is there even the slightest possibility that we could over analyze something?

Is that even possible?
 
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Mornin', guys.

So, the leak still kicking?
Kinda? The background details are a bit inconsistent or so I've heard not enough to definitively end it
 
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DutchPichu

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Man I hoooooope the leak is real. For real, this is the only chance my Glee Club is coming to Smash. For DLC? Nah, not the Glee Club.
 
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The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse:
Team Real
Team Fake
Team HMMMMM
Team BOX!!?!??$$$?!?!
 

Phyr

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The background discussion is the "shulk is a phitoshopped little mac" all over again.

The best proof would be to find a printed banner and check how high the level of detail are on those. For printing is very natural to make modifications because of color and ppp reasons (is VERY costly to make really clear images).

I remember in the last event i went there was a big banner and the detail level was like the leak, but I dont remember any specific scenario items to disprove anything.

Im team real btw. Anyone that has worked on printings and stuff knows how does that work. It looking like an accident makes it 99% real or the leaker is terribly good AND stupid and is gonna be sued for this.

In any case, all statements from any media you see from out there saying its fake is 90% damage control. I dont work in the videogame industry, but Ive work in others with big media power and I have seen how easy is just to pull the strings in case something like this happened. Because if its real, is bad for them and their marketing strategy (direct wont be such a big wow). And if its fake, direct will be a HUGE dissapointment. Its a rather steep ordeal for nintendo, this one, because, as I said, for it to be fake it would need such a major level of attention, planing, and stupidness that its impossible to be fake unless you are delusional or you want to keep your expectatives in check.

Seriously guys, someone must know by now thst saying "too good to be true" is not an argument when you have everything there. Is not a text leak, is a ****ing video.
 
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no one has convincingly argued why sakurai said "we're slowing the pace of reveals down" despite having 7 more characters left to reveal in the span of a month
1. They have slowed down. We've gone over a month with pretty much nothing
2. He never said the wouldn't pick up again
3. He was being intentionally misleading to lower expectations and build a huge surprise
4. Sakurai still doesn't count Echoes, meaning it's just 5 reveals, which again, were saved for a final Superbang. This is the "Ultimate" game after all.
5. People are taking Sakurai's words out of context and extrapolating unnecessary meaning from something that was meant to be taken at face value, don't read to much into it. It's obvious Sakurai hoped to temper expectations to build up a huge final reveal and surprise everyone with the most popular snd impossible leaks. And likewise, he didn't lie, as reveals have indeed slowed down. He was just being a sneaky troll, classic Sakurai.

Honestly, if there's any bummer to this leak it's that it totally ruined the surprise Sakurai was preparing for all of us. But honestly, Sakurai's words only further reinforce the validity of the leak given how impressive the final five are.
 
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