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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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TriforceBun

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I can't figure out the Chorus Kids in the image. It looks like four characters, three of them sort of surrounding some large, blobby character...? Anybody have an idea what I'm looking at? It's possibly the conductor of them, but it's hard to tell; it may even be a different Rhythm Heaven character bundled with the Kids themselves.
 

drag0nscythe

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Box theory probably died so I came back, but what killed it was a leak so I'm saving the gloating til the direct. Also it seems DLC is now the topic of the day, and that Sora might be in smash cuz of an unrelated leak. Who would be his echo though Riku or Roxas?
Box theory is not dead yet. We will see.
And gloating about what? People will just ignore you so it will be an echo chamber. Might as well just join in the celebrations instead.
 
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Sakurai - "Don't expect too many newcomers"
Sakurai - "We only have a few left"
- Leak has five newcomers and two echoes
That's not "a few" at all

To be fair, the man also said Smash Wii U would only have a few. And if we cut out every Echo (which are pretty much skins aside from one changed move on Chrom), then the list of unique newcomers actually is considerably smaller than the last game, is it not?
 

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Box theory probably died so I came back, but what killed it was a leak so I'm saving the gloating til the direct. Also it seems DLC is now the topic of the day, and that Sora might be in smash cuz of an unrelated leak. Who would be his echo though Riku or Roxas?
Roxas makes the most sense but Riku is the more popular one. (He even stole hero credit in KH: DDD)
 

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You guys are going way too fast. Also if there are really unrevealed newcomers, RIP game balance. This game is going to make Melee look fair and balanced, especially if we are going to get DLC on top of that.
**** balance.

No Smash game ever has or ever will be balanced. I don't want my fun hobbled so the competitive scene can see a few more characters in mid tier before going back to Bayonetta again.
 

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You guys are going way too fast. Also if there are really unrevealed newcomers, RIP game balance. This game is going to make Melee look fair and balanced, especially if we are going to get DLC on top of that.
Soooo, MvC2.

Way too many characters. ✓
Absolutely no balance. ✓
Awesome soundtrack. ✓
Everyone will love it. ✓
Jill Valentine.
Mega Man. ✓

Basically the same game.
 
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Might as well give my thoughts on the characters
Banjo and Chorus Kids - 0/10: ewwwww

Geno - 3/10: don't care for him but I like seeing Luigi The President Luigi The President happy so she's the only one who can change my opinion

Ken - 7/10: neat. One step closer to Chun Li as DLC

Shadow - 7/10: also neat and Sonic needs more characters when it's the biggest of all 3rd Parties

Isaac - 6/10: gonna depend a lot on how he play but I like seeing more RPGs represented and I've heard the music that was in Smash 4 so if the quality is anything like that then I'm in

Mach Rider - 8/10 **** it I wanna see how she plays, she's bound to be cool as **** with a bike and a gun. I love retro characters.
Okay what does he know?

No because I knew where he got all his resources from unlike everyone else who thought the Springman was a 'new' model. Octcom's Razor.

Like I said at the time it was good but timed have changed.

Two frames don't give you what he has... you can see that in the progress bar below.[/QUOTE]
IbPGYG0.gif
 

Professor Pumpkaboo

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Ok, assuming this leak is real, what are your expectations/desires for DLC now?

Mine are:
-Paper Mario
-Dixie Kong
-Impa
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Medusa
-Rex/Pyra/Mythra
-Spring Man
-Pokemon
-3rd Party

Bonus: With these many 3rd Party reps, do you think DLC will add even more like in Smash For, or will it be mainly 1st Party?
Layton
layton
layton
Layton
and Layton :001:
 
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man this whole situation is WACK like i dont even care about whether or not the leak is real or not. this is what I think of when I think of smash speculation. good ****
 

KingofKoopas

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Box theory is not dead yet. We will see.
And gloating about what? People will just ignore you so it will be an echo chamber. Might as well just join in the celebrations instead.
.... **** what i said previously The banner is 100% real. Try to debunk it ************. And if you say the word box even once youre not making a real case for it being fake.
 
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I can't figure out the Chorus Kids in the image. It looks like four characters, three of them sort of surrounding some large, blobby character...? Anybody have an idea what I'm looking at? It's possibly the conductor of them, but it's hard to tell; it may even be a different Rhythm Heaven character bundled with the Kids themselves.
That blob is the Conductor, who is always shown with his back facing the camera.

Anyway, I'm imagining all of their attacks will feature Rhythm Heaven characters, from Karate Joe to Harry Onion to the Wrestler.
 

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Might as well give my thoughts on the characters
Banjo and Chorus Kids - 0/10: ewwwww

Geno - 3/10: don't care for him but I like seeing Luigi The President Luigi The President happy so she's the only one who can change my opinion

Ken - 7/10: neat. One step closer to Chun Li as DLC

Shadow - 7/10: also neat and Sonic needs more characters when it's the biggest of all 3rd Parties

Isaac - 6/10: gonna depend a lot on how he play but I like seeing more RPGs represented and I've heard the music that was in Smash 4 so if the quality is anything like that then I'm in

Mach Rider - 8/10 **** it I wanna see how she plays, she's bound to be cool as **** with a bike and a gun. I love retro characters.



No because I knew where he got all his resources from unlike everyone else who thought the Springman was a 'new' model. Octcom's Razor.

Like I said at the time it was good but timed have changed.

Two frames don't give you what he has... you can see that in the progress bar below.
View attachment 171562[/QUOTE]
I'm going to 'like' this because you don't know what a frame is or how rigs work.. and that's funny to me.

I even posted the resource site that had the models

Jesus the amount snark over nothing is amazing, but okay.
 
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Might as well give my thoughts on the characters
Banjo and Chorus Kids - 0/10: ewwwww

Geno - 3/10: don't care for him but I like seeing Luigi The President Luigi The President happy so she's the only one who can change my opinion

Ken - 7/10: neat. One step closer to Chun Li as DLC

Shadow - 7/10: also neat and Sonic needs more characters when it's the biggest of all 3rd Parties

Isaac - 6/10: gonna depend a lot on how he play but I like seeing more RPGs represented and I've heard the music that was in Smash 4 so if the quality is anything like that then I'm in

Mach Rider - 8/10 **** it I wanna see how she plays, she's bound to be cool as **** with a bike and a gun. I love retro characters.



No because I knew where he got all his resources from unlike everyone else who thought the Springman was a 'new' model. Octcom's Razor.

Like I said at the time it was good but timed have changed.

Two frames don't give you what he has... you can see that in the progress bar below.
View attachment 171562
Gonna give my thoughts:
Love you Shi :") honestly you probably shouldn't care for him! He's not that important of a guy, he appeared once, but he's just such an underdog and lives only due to popularity which combined with my childhood love of SMRPG so I'm pretty ecstatic.
If it increases your hype at all, though it also may drop it: Geno has a special move where, if timed absolutely perfectly, it can deal 9999 damage. Imagine if Geno Whirl (the move) had a Peach-like mechanic where it had a, say, 1/1000 chance to deal 9999 damage and take out the enemy.
Now imagine that at EVO Grand Finals

Chun as DLC would be massively hype actually. Also, first time seeing someone give a solid 0 to Banjo, dang Shi

Also my take on the Springman vs. Rayman: Springman looks like they're dragging his model back and forth in an image editing software, Rayman had us fooled for days...c'mon Pakky.
 
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There was a problem fetching the tweet

Can we just pause and appreciate that a ****ing smash leak is now being ingratiated into broader popular culture now??

This is something only the craziest of the crazy could ever imagine happening.
This is the best timeline
 

Michael the Spikester

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Ok, assuming this leak is real, what are your expectations/desires for DLC now?

Mine are:
-Paper Mario
-Dixie Kong
-Impa
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Medusa
-Rex/Pyra/Mythra
-Spring Man
-Pokemon
-3rd Party

Bonus: With these many 3rd Party reps, do you think DLC will add even more like in Smash For, or will it be mainly 1st Party?
Expecting:
Edelgard
Gen 8 Pokemon
Rex
Ribbon Girl (Echo of Spring Man)
Sora (Maybe)
Spring Man
Sylux (Maybe)

Hoping:
Black Shadow
Elma
Medusa
 

Paperchampion23

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WAIT. Serious important question.

If leak is true, will Chorus Kids be 2d or 3d? My vote is a 2d Ice Climbers/Game and Watch hybrid. The other 2 kids follow along and fight like Nana would, and the characters are represented in 2D like Game and Watch.
 

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Anyone using the quality of the image (it being a screenshot of a video from snapchat) against the leak has definitley never taken a screenshot of a video on snapchat before. **** comes out awful.
 

drag0nscythe

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.... **** what i said previously The banner is 100% real. Try to debunk it ************. And if you say the word box even once youre not making a real case for it being fake.
I said box theory is not dead yet. Banner looks reasonable, but it is not 100% until a direct. It is not more a valid contender than the box.
It is another thing to watch and enjoy.
 

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Box theory probably died so I came back, but what killed it was a leak so I'm saving the gloating til the direct. Also it seems DLC is now the topic of the day, and that Sora might be in smash cuz of an unrelated leak. Who would be his echo though Riku or Roxas?
Sora's echo would easily be Roxas. Dude's literally a copy ("other") him.

Also what's this leak?
 
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Aside from being apparently credible, I don't know much about the guy, so anyone wanna fill me in on explaining who Spawn Wave is to ManlySpirit?
Yeah, that's my point see?

Suddenly everyone is going "well, this internet personality said this, therefore it's probably fake now." Like, I don't get how some random person voicing their opinions about the matter suddenly determine the validity of a leak, especially one with some much evidence to back it up.
 

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So...if all of this **** is ****ing true

- Geno
- Mach Rider
- Isaac
- Shadow
- Ken
- Banjo & Kazooie
- Chorus Kid
And
- Sora Announcement at the VGA


You know what. **** it. I can't be mad with a roster like that.
I was already happy to FINALLY see a leak with Isaac in.
But if we even get Sora and Geno Together?

Legit. Never asks Anything ever again to Sakurai. They can port that smash game in the next 10 Nintendo console I wouldn't mind
 
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Not my point

You said "nothing points to it being real" yeah? When a LOT of stuff does actually point to it.

You SHOULD be cautious though. Great chance it's fake.
Luigi, I'm gonna be real with you:

I'm taking that stance with this leak because I want it to be real so bad. I was done with characters. My thoughts were more on what modes there were. If box was legit, then oh well, I was already satisfied with Inklings. Everything that happened after them was a bonus.

But dang it, Mach Rider, Chorus Boys, Shadow, and Banjo & Kazooie? I'd lose it for any of those.
 
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KingofKoopas

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I said box theory is not dead yet. Banner looks reasonable, but it is not 100% until a direct. It is not more a valid contender than the box.
It is another thing to watch and enjoy.
And he used the word box at least twice.. Look today is Banner theory day, if you wanna be the box theorist turd in the punchbowl do it tomorrow when everyone is tired of the banner.
 

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WAIT. Serious important question.

If leak is true, will Chorus Kids be 2d or 3d? My vote is a 2d Ice Climbers/Game and Watch hybrid. The other 2 kids follow along and fight like Nana would, and the characters are represented in 2D like Game and Watch.
Yeah, for sure 2D as that'd stay true to their original games and aesthetics.
 

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Also my take on the Springman vs. Rayman: Springman looks like they're dragging his model back and forth in an image editing software, Rayman had us fooled for days...c'mon Pakky.
Good for the time but ultimately unimpressive in hindsight and that's okay.
 
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jokermelee

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Box theory is not dead yet. We will see.
And gloating about what? People will just ignore you so it will be an echo chamber. Might as well just join in the celebrations instead.
Box Theory is basically dead at this point, with the back of the switch bundle from the eBay listing proving it can have empty slots and possibly doesn't have the full roster, i don't see any reason to stick to it anyways, having more newcomers is better than lowering your expectations to 2
 

TriforceBun

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That blob is the Conductor, who is always shown with his back facing the camera.

Anyway, I'm imagining all of their attacks will feature Rhythm Heaven characters, from Karate Joe to Harry Onion to the Wrestler.
You're probably right, and I'm very eager to see how this character works. But I'm still having trouble seeing anything other than a weird Mr. Burns octopus monster there:

choruskids.jpg
 

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Yeah, that's my point see?

Suddenly everyone is going "well, this internet personality said this, therefore it's probably fake now." Like, I don't get how some random person voicing their opinions about the matter suddenly determine the validity of a leak, especially one with some much evidence to back it up.
Like I said, I don't know much about Spawn Wave, so anyone explaining in depth about his background, especially when it comes to leaks, that would help a lot.
 
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