Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Don't think it'll raise it to T. If is possible, then anything is possible.

Except for Tharja, her trophy has to be removed.

 

[PLATINUM7]

But that's the thing. They're 'too' overboard on this ****.

I once said "He" in relation to mentioning another user in the discord group, and got chewed an ear out because "You should use they or them" because I wasn't aware the other person was female, nor had I ever talked to them before.



I just don't get all this ess-jay-dubya **** nowadays.

Like you should have used they but I wouldn't chew people out for it. Patriarchal discourse is something that permeates through culture and takes time to change. There are much worse things than using the wrong pronoun.

See, that's interesting as I don't think CERO has issued the official Japanese rating yet...

It has an A rating.

 

[StormC]

I can't remotely take anyone serious who uses the term "SJW."

 

[Deleted member]

Man, nothing like a good old fashion XC2 bashing by Smashboards followed pointless politcal BS. Truly, we are making the best of our time here.

 

[Zinith]

It has an A rating.

That's a more lenient rating than what ESRB and PEGI gave it...

 

[Shroob]

Ask some trans people how they would feel about getting called a "trap" and you'll get your answer.

Difference is one's a cartoon character, the other's a human.

I respect people's life choices like any decent human being does, but, girls that look like boys, or boys that look like girls in anime have been called "Traps" for as far back as I can remember, and it's gonna take hell freezing over to change that.

That and, Japan really doesn't give a damn about our sudden surge of PC culture anyway.

 

[CosmicQuark]

I can't remotely take anyone serious who uses the term "SJW."

Yeah, that's the main thing that gets at me. To me, social justice seems obviously a good thing. But the problem is when people feel antagonized, they antagonize back--which is why I've stopped being a "warrior" and became a "teacher".

 

[Deleted member]

I can't remotely take anyone serious who uses the term "SJW."

My dude, if you're going to rant about politic nonsense, then head over to the debate hall. Last time someone did that in this thread, it didn't end well.

 

[Jeck]

I don't use the term but it does describe a real community worth talking about.

But hey! Smash Bros. and whatnot. Prob a great idea to talk about Waluigi or something.

 

[Penroze]

I don't use the term but it does describe a real community worth talking about.

But hey! Smash Bros. and whatnot.

But Jeck! What Is 'Smash Bros'?!?!?!?!

 

[osby]

It's funny, my morning class was Politics.

I think we'd better turn back to discussing Smash. Just respect others etc.

 

[Deleted member]

But Jeck! What Is 'Smash Bros'?!?!?!?!

It's an enigma! It's a force of nature! It drives people crazy!!

 

[KMDP]

I just don't get all this ess-jay-dubya **** nowadays.

The SJW.. uh... phenomenon a toxic mess of: well-meaning idealists, opportunistic sociopaths aiming to manipulate the idealists, left-wing/socialist politics snowballing out of control and what I will dub "privilege guilt". Not to mention vocabulary revisionism and verbal gentrification.

All bundled into an extreme lack of self-awareness.

I can never get into discussions about "revealing designs" because I never really cared...

I've swung back and forth regarding my opinion of revealing outfits (but never into hatred).

Difference is one's a cartoon character, the other's a human.

I respect people's life choices like any decent human being does, but, girls that look like boys, or boys that look like girls in anime have been called "Traps" for as far back as I can remember, and it's gonna take hell freezing over to change that.

That and, Japan really doesn't give a damn about our sudden surge of PC culture anyway.

Well, Japan sometimes cares. Game company executives care regarding foreign policy... or something...

 

[Jeck]

Yo, if you could have any TF2 char show up as playable which would it be?

I'm feeling Scout or Spy.

 

[Shroob]

The SJW.. uh... phenomenon a toxic mess of: well-meaning idealists, opportunistic sociopaths aiming to manipulate the idealists, left-wing/socialist politics snowballing out of control and what I will dub "privilege guilt". Not to mention vocabulary revisionism and verbal gentrification.

All bundled into an extreme lack of self-awareness.

I've swung back and forth regarding my opinion of revealing outfits (but never into hatred).

Well, Japan sometimes cares. Game company executives care regarding foreign policy... or something...

Thing is, I vote democratic.


I just feel like this walking on eggshells stuff is crazy.



The term's used for cartoon characters. People that use it for REAL humans are ****, I agree, but you can't use a term that's been made for over 20 years on cartoons anymore?

 

[cmbsfm]

Yo, if you could have any TF2 char show up as playable which would it be?

I'm feeling Scout or Spy.

It has to be Heavy. Face of the franchise.

 

[Deleted member]

But Jeck! What Is 'Smash Bros'?!?!?!?!

It's this weird obscure fighting game where the community complains whenever their favourite character doesn't get in

 

[StormC]

Thing is, I vote democratic.


I just feel like this walking on eggshells stuff is crazy.



The term's used for cartoon characters. People that use it for REAL humans are ****, I agree, but you can't use a term that's been made for over 20 years on cartoons anymore?

I mean, social progress usually involves challenging traditions and cultural norms.

It's a term usually associated with the idea that dressing as one gender and then "revealing" themselves as another gender is "trapping" the person, an age old harmful stereotype that is used to justify violence against trans people in real life. That's all.

 

[ZephyrZ]

If it was just revealing, that'd be one thing. But Pyra's design is just so weird. Like it tried to go for this sci-fi aesthetic but the prioritized sexualization over the actual aesthetic and it just came out super funky and weird, which makes it come off as kind of distasteful in a way. It's a similar reason I hate an issue with FE Camilla's design but not, say, Awakening Tiki's.

 

[nintenplayer]

It's this weird obscure PARTY game where the community complains whenever there favourite character doesn't get in

FTFY

 

[CosmicQuark]

The SJW.. uh... phenomenon a toxic mess of: well-meaning idealists, opportunistic sociopaths aiming to manipulate the idealists, left-wing/socialist politics snowballing out of control and what I will dub "privilege guilt". Not to mention vocabulary revisionism and verbal gentrification.

All bundled into an extreme lack of self-awareness.

Okay, this is exactly why we probably shouldn't talk about politics in this thread, because stuff like this pops up. Was really hoping this was a parody, but the punchline never came.

...something something Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

The SJW.. uh... phenomenon a toxic mess of: well-meaning idealists, opportunistic sociopaths aiming to manipulate the idealists, left-wing/socialist politics snowballing out of control and what I will dub "privilege guilt". Not to mention vocabulary revisionism and verbal gentrification.

All bundled into an extreme lack of self-awareness.

In other words, they're more crazy than a redneck drunk on a bottle Jack Daniels and high on cocaine driving down a highway on a Harley Davidson at 80+ MPH. Best to just not give them any attention.

ANYWAYS, enough politic BS! Back onto Smash stuff!

It's this weird obscure fighting game where the community complains whenever there favourite character doesn't get in

You forgot to mention all the crazy theories.

 

[Michele]

It's this very weird, very obscure RPG game that never made it to USA, only in Japan with a series and the community complains about everything wrong with the game

FTFY

 

[osby]

FTFY

"RPG"
"fixed"

Which game are you talking about?

 

[Deleted member]

So, to all of the Castlevania fans here, would rather have Alucard, Soma, Johnathan, Charlotte, or Shanoa as a newcomer in Smash?

 

[Michele]

"RPG"
"fixed"

Which game are you talking about?

I was just joking.

Anyways, have you seen the new Blog Post? Apparentely, Luigi may use his Poltergust in his grab moves.

 

[KMDP]

Thing is, I vote democratic.


I just feel like this walking on eggshells stuff is crazy.

According to a questionnaire I took recently, I'm moderate Left-Libertarian.

I mean, social progress usually involves challenging traditions and cultural norms.

While this isn't specifically what you're talking about: allowing people to share in jokes about minorities (either with the minorities themselves or without) is a key part of normalising them. Preventing this results in resentment, which culminates in further hatred.

In short, when you can laugh with a person, you like them more.

Anyway, I agree that this topic should end here.

 

[Majora's Visage]

The thing is, there isn't much more to show. The next direct will prove it, so they're holding it.

This. Next direct will be last info dump.

 

[osby]

I was just joking.

Anyways, have you seen the new Blog Post? Apparentely, Luigi may use his Poltergust in his grab moves.

Oh, okay.

I hope it's not like Smash4!PAC-MAN. Luigi makes heavy use of his grabs and throws, it'd be a shame if he loses it just for a reference that he already have.

 

[StormC]

While this isn't specifically what you're talking about: allowing people to share in jokes about minorities (either with the minorities themselves or without) is a key part of normalising them. Preventing this results in resentment, which culminates in further hatred.

Ironic bigotry is still bigotry.

 

[Iridium]

So, to all of the Castlevania fans here, would rather have Alucard, Soma, Johnathan, Charlotte, or Shanoa as a newcomer in Smash?

Stuck between Alucard and Soma as my top picks. Yeah, I just know them a lot more than the other 3.

 

[Deleted member]

Stuck between Alucard and Soma as my top picks. Yeah, I just know them a lot more than the other 3.

To be honest, I'm stuck between Soma, Jonathan, and Charolette. Odd picks with those last two I know, but I just like Portait of Ruin a lot out of the 3 DS Castlevania games, and think Johnathan and Charolette could bring something interesting.

 

[osby]

Ironic bigotry is still bigotry.

It honestly depends on the joke. Joking about a group doesn't have to be ignorant or hateful. If you know what you are talking about and don't have any malicious intent, I don't think there is a problem.

This. Next direct will be last info dump.

I hope. I don't want to wait for yet another one.

 

[KMDP]

Ironic bigotry is still bigotry.

Oftentimes, a marker of being good friends is when individuals in a group makes fun of each other's foibles. This can even extend as far as on a country-wide scale (e.g. the current relationship between the British and French).

It honestly depends on the joke. Joking about a group doesn't have to be ignorant or hateful. If you know what you are talking about and don't have any malicious intent, I don't think there is a problem.

Also this.

 

[Iridium]

To be honest, I'm stuck between Soma, Jonathan, and Charolette. Odd picks with those last two I know, but I just like Portait of Ruin a lot out of the 3 DS Castlevania games, and think Johnathan and Charolette could bring something interesting.

Yeah, I'd take almost anything from Castlevania now. Literally any notable character is okay with me at this point.

 

[Jeck]

So, to all of the Castlevania fans here, would rather have Alucard, Soma, Johnathan, Charlotte, or Shanoa as a newcomer in Smash?

Secret option Maria because fun fact: did you know that she's actually better than Richter at beating his own game? Yup. She's used in speedruns. They just unlock her ASAP and cartwheel to victory. She'd be kind of like the Dixie Kong of Castlevania's Smash representation.

 

[beans]

So, to all of the Castlevania fans here, would rather have Alucard, Soma, Johnathan, Charlotte, or Shanoa as a newcomer in Smash?

Soma, Shanoa, Jonathan AND Charllote, Alucard
In decreasing order. If Castlevania gets a new rep it will be Alucard, because he is the OG of modern castlevania. But I wouldnt be complaining if Soma got in first

 

[Penroze]

It's this weird obscure fighting game where the community complains whenever their favourite character doesn't get in

Sounds like fun! Where do I sign up?

 

[StormC]

Why is everyone forgetting my boy Dracula.

Never say too big!

 

[osby]

Why is everyone forgetting my boy Dracula.

Never say too big!

Maybe it's because he's already a boss.