Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[amazonevan19]

What are these credible sources, question?

Ok, fair, my understanding is it's (who appear to be) random people hearing second hand from peeps high up in the leakosphere with "credible evidence it's fake."

I can't take that for 100% proof, and the absence of the proof bothers me a bit. Why not just offer it and keep the person who furnished it anonymous or something?

But if they have no reason to disbelieve it and those leakers (and IntelliHealth) aren't ****ing around then yeah it's probably time to move on.

I mean, we've all started dismissing the Ken leak just because a leaker said the Ken leak is NOT real, so why shouldn't we dismiss the Geno render based on the word of leakers too?

 

[Cosmic77]

We already have 2 new Metroid reps, I'm honestly not expecting any more in base imo

Me: "We already got two new FE reps in Smash 4. I don't think we'll get any more."

Sakurai: "Hold my drink."


Sakurai does what Sakurai wants.

 

[Luigi The President]

Ok, fair, my understanding is it's (who appear to be) random people hearing second hand from peeps high up in the leakosphere with "credible evidence it's fake."

I can't take that for 100% proof, and the absence of the proof bothers me a bit. Why not just offer it and keep the person who furnished it anonymous or something?

But if they have no reason to disbelieve it and those leakers (and IntelliHealth) aren't ****ing around then yeah it's probably time to move on.

I mean, we've all started dismissing the Ken leak just because a leaker said the Ken leak is NOT real, so why shouldn't we dismiss the Geno render based on the word of leakers too?

Wait wtf are you talking about who said Ken leak is fake

 

[Deleted member]

"Wow, yet another Metroid character? How much fighters we need to get from that series because of SaKuRaİ BiAs?"

Sylux is the last Metroid character that i want, tbh.

And if Sakurai had a bias for Metroid, Varia Samus would be higher on the tier list.

 

[Idon]

Gee, I guess our last characters would have to be characters that don't need a stage, but I wonder who they could POSSIBLY beeeeee.........

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Have the RH characters use a Warioware stage, it'd make more sense than the FE characters having Temple and FD as their home stages in Melee.

I'd be fine with that, except for the fact that RH has some amazing music and it would be quite a waste to have only a few tracks

 

[Deleted member]

Sylux is the last Metroid character that i want, tbh.

And if Sakurai had a bias for Metroid, Varia Samus would be higher on the tier list.

By that logic, FE bias doesn't exist sense half of the FE characters are unviable.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I still boldly believe that we have not seen all the stages for Smash Ultimate.

I am also starting to believe some people in this thread knee-jerks too much at every piece of Smash Ultimate info.

Give some time to think about this carefully, at the very least.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd be fine with that, except for the fact that RH has some amazing music and it would be quite a waste to have only a few tracks

Could be worse tbh.

Look at the Final Fantasy tracks.

 

[Nekoo]

Ok, fair, my understanding is it's (who appear to be) random people hearing second hand from peeps high up in the leakosphere with "credible evidence it's fake."

I can't take that for 100% proof, and the absence of the proof bothers me a bit. Why not just offer it and keep the person who furnished it anonymous or something?

But if they have no reason to disbelieve it and those leakers (and IntelliHealth) aren't ****ing around then yeah it's probably time to move on.

I mean, we've all started dismissing the Ken leak just because a leaker said the Ken leak is NOT real, so why shouldn't we dismiss the Geno render based on the word of leakers too?

Lmao no, quite the contrary, most of our "professional" said that the Ken leak is probably real...
But honestly the Sassy Geno leak is still in the Limbo...It's just that there another thing possibly against it until we get more proof

 

[KingofKoopas]

Gonna reiterate that there's still nothing that indicates that it's set in stone that 103 is the final stage total. Nowhere is it said or implied. CoroCoro's only saying it's 103 because that's the current amount. Whether they're fixing a typo or an accidental leak, this doesn't prove 103 is the final amount. Y'all way too pessimistic.

Yeah for all we know its actually 110 stages and this was a result of death threats from 103onists who think everything is as it was forever and ever

 

[TheCJBrine]

Alright why can't they give us proof that the Geno pic is fake and keep the users anonymous

They could just as easily be anti-Geno people giving that pic vaanrose had or something, comparing an edited Wii U's background to the one in the Geno pic, so it could be an early version like the Ken leak.

edit: alright I admit this statement is extreme, I just figured that, based on anti-Geno words I've seen on GameFaqs, 4chan, and some around here, they could've taken vaanrose's picture - who helped us figure out the leak, just the picture leading us to a brick wall after all the discussion - and used it as evidence against Geno due to the similar backgrounds, but yeah they didn't say he wasn't in or seem negative...

 

[osby]

Sylux is the last Metroid character that i want, tbh.

And if Sakurai had a bias for Metroid, Varia Samus would be higher on the tier list.

Contrary to what some idiots salty from tiers in Smash, Sakurai doesn't make characters high or low tier just because he wants.

Me: "We already got two new FE reps in Smash 4. I don't think we'll get any more."

Sakurai: "Hold my drink."


Sakurai does what Sakurai wants.

Am I the only one who cares about the interview where Sakurai said he initially didn't wanted Corrin? Yes? Okay.

 

[Luigi The President]

Box Theorists when the 108 drops to 103

 

[amazonevan19]

Wait wtf are you talking about who said Ken leak is fake

The dude who said there's a company with ruffled feathers over a character leaking clarified and said the Ken leak was not real.

 

[Nekoo]

Alright why can't they give us proof that the Geno pic is fake and keep the users anonymous

They could just as easily be anti-Geno users giving that pic vaanrose had or something, comparing an edited Wii U's background to the one in the Geno pic, so it could be an early version like the Ken leak.

I truly don't believe it's some sort of scheme about anti-Geno things...Cmon now...

Like I said, just keep in mind that there is "semi-credible" people saying that the pic in itself is fake, but they NEVER said that he wasn't in if you read again.

 

[FalconFire93]

Let me ask you guys this. What is your favorite move in the Smash series? For me it's probably Brawl/4 Ganondorf's Side-B. Fits the character well, does good damage, bypasses shield, sets up combos. ROB's Top gets special mention. I love getting to play mind games with throwing it straight-up or tossing it just in front of someone, and it's such a nice spacing/edge-guard tool.

Captain Falcon’s Falcon Punch or B, it’s not really Smash Bros. for me without it.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Box Theorists when the 108 drops to 103
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Until you realize the box does not fit more than 96 stages therefore there are only 96 stages in the game.

 

[Deleted member]

Gonna reiterate that there's still nothing that indicates that it's set in stone that 103 is the final stage total. Nowhere is it said or implied. CoroCoro's only saying it's 103 because that's the current amount. Whether they're fixing a typo or an accidental leak, this doesn't prove 103 is the final amount. Y'all way too pessimistic.

In fairness, the words "Exactly 103 stages" were used in the 8.8 Direct. I'm not saying it's impossible, but for me personally, I'm keeping expectations for new franchises low. Like, really low.

The most I see happening at this point is either the box is 100% on the money, or it's half right and there's an extra Echo or two with Ken. I'm starting to feel this game's pre-release was waaaay too frontloaded and the final Direct is gonna be way more about Spirits, Online, and whatever single player options there are rather than characters and stages like 8.8's Direct.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I wish there was a "Last time on Smashboards.com..." so i can get caught up on things i may have missed

 

[TheCJBrine]

The dude who said there's a company with ruffled feathers over a character leaking clarified and said the Ken leak was not real.

He didn't say it wasn't real, he just meant that it's not the leak he's talking about based on his info.

I truly don't believe it's some sort of scheme about anti-Geno things...Cmon now...

Like I said, just keep in mind that there is "semi-credible" people saying that the pic in itself is fake, but they NEVER said that he wasn't in if you read again.

They never said he wasn't in, yes, I just really like that Geno model

I may have said an extreme statement with the anti-Geno thing, but after seeing words on 4chan and GameFaqs plus a few around here I just felt like it was possible...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The dude who said there's a company with ruffled feathers over a character leaking clarified and said the Ken leak was not real.

I thought he just said through context that the leak that “ruffled some feathers” wasn’t the Ken one? He didn’t explicitly say the Ken leak was fake.

In fact, there was someone on 4chan who claimed to have faked the Ken leak, but didn’t that only lend more credence to it...?

 

[Deleted member]

The dude who said there's a company with ruffled feathers over a character leaking clarified and said the Ken leak was not real.

Not true. He clarified by saying that the leak that "ruffled feathers" was not the Ken image, not that the Ken image was fake. Might as well believe the guy on 4chan who said he made Ken for a school project 2 years ago.

 

[Nekoo]

The dude who said there's a company with ruffled feathers over a character leaking clarified and said the Ken leak was not real.

Okay, **** it, READ this, Idc about double post, but My jimmies get triggered everytime I see misinformation.

That's all information about Square-Enix rep right now.

He NEVER said the Ken picture is Fake, just that the Company isn't bothered about the Ken leak BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY it is Square-Enix

 

[amazonevan19]

Takeaway: the box is inevitable, inexorable, and is coming to devour our hopes, dreams, and souls. All hail Kencineroar.

...

SO WHO'S READY FOR DLC???

 

[Pyra]

Y'all coming up with the one-oh-threeory now?

 

[Deleted member]

Takeaway: the box is inevitable, inexorable, and is coming to devour our hopes, dreams, and souls. All hail Kencineroar.

...

SO WHO'S READY FOR DLC???

Once this game's out, I'm actually going to play it instead of waiting for DLC, so I can wait. Over 70 characters and all vets is more than enough to tide me over.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Oh for ****s sake. You know what i wasn't going to say anything cuz it'd make me look like "That fake leak guy" but before we turn into the Cult of the Box again, I'll say that I have on good authority that the Box Leak is BS.

 

[kylexv]

BREAKING NEWS! NEW CORO CORO INFO!
Coro Coro recently changed the 108 stages to 103!

Seems like the latest Coro Coro issue is going back to the 103 stage total, as opposed to 108 in the previous issues. Thanks @DartsEnthusiast for the heads up.https://t.co/eTIHx4MnkB

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) October 20, 2018

So it is a typo!

Everything that has brought hope to the community for more than just what the Box Theory suggests is slowly disintegrating, one by one.

*looks at my sig I've had for about a month now*

 

[Deleted member]

Once this game's out, I'm actually going to play it instead of waiting for DLC, so I can wait. Over 70 characters and all vets is more than enough to tide me over.

Same.

 

[osby]

Everything that has brought hope to the community for more than just what the Box Theory suggests is slowly disintegrating, one by one.

*looks at my sig I've had for about a month now*

Man, it's going to be annoying if last newcomers make people retroactively negative about the newcomers *checks* third time in a row.

 

[amazonevan19]

Oh. So I jumped to conclusions with the Ken leak. He just said it wasn't the Ken leak rustling jimmies, NOT that the Ken leak is fake. For all we know the Ken leak is still real alongside another leak.

All right **** me, sorry about that.

 

[Luigi The President]

Okay, **** it, READ this, Idc about double post, but My jimmies get triggered everytime I see misinformation.

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That's all information about Square-Enix rep right now.

He NEVER said the Ken picture is Fake, just that the Company isn't bothered about the Ken leak BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY it is Square-Enix

I highly disagree on that last Geno paragraph

There's a difference between your character being in a lot of disprovable text leaks for years now and your character having a high-quality image leak of his model that cannot be disproved

That's really all

 

[Opossum]

As a Box Theorist this news doesn't surprise me. It was obvious to me that it was a "Chatot is a pure Flying type" typo from the start.

 

[kylexv]

View attachment 170882

For some reason, this ancient gif scared the crap out of me as a kid.

But for reason it's now super hilarious.

 

[TheMilkmann]

Idk, this whole 103 to 108 and back to 103 stage thing seems kinda fishy to me..

 

[Starbound]

103 stages and Ken/Incineroar looks pretty good now.

I'm rather convinced that's the extent of the base game.

 

[Deleted member]

Speaking of Ken.

Does Capcom even remember the existence of Street Fighter 2000?

I would expect them to not remember the thing.

 

[Wyoming]

Once this game's out, I'm actually going to play it instead of waiting for DLC, so I can wait. Over 70 characters and all vets is more than enough to tide me over.

Yup - once the game is out why care about the wait for DLC? When it comes, it will come.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Oh for the love of.. Mods nuke me now before I get so fed up with box theory i end up costing my friend a job.