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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Curious, when did we get the August Smash Direct announced officially? Was it a week in advance? Or did it take longer for that?

If we don't get an announcement soon of what this could entail, then I can wager a Lucina/Robin like trailer. Why? Because it happened before for Sm4sh so why not do it again?
 

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Curious, when did we get the August Smash Direct announced officially? Was it a week in advance? Or did it take longer for that?

If we don't get an announcement soon of what this could entail, then I can wager a Lucina/Robin like trailer. Why? Because it happened before for Sm4sh so why not do it again?
The August Direct was a couple days beforehand.

And as for Robin/Lucina? Depends completely on how many characters are left.


If it's 2-4 characters, including echoes, literally what is the point of revealing one outside of the final Direct?
 

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Curious, when did we get the August Smash Direct announced officially? Was it a week in advance? Or did it take longer for that?

If we don't get an announcement soon of what this could entail, then I can wager a Lucina/Robin like trailer. Why? Because it happened before for Sm4sh so why not do it again?
I don’t remember: what was the buildup for Robin in Sm4sh? I know the trailer was a surprise, but I assume there was at least a “hey, check this out! We’re livestreaming something in 10 hours!”

Or did it seriously just drop and people were like “wait, wtf?”
 
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Watch PapaGenos latest video. He says the box theory could still be credible only that it WON'T be the final roster similarly to the cards. It will only be up to date with the latest reveal and get printed still leaving out characters.

Box theory people are looking at it as if there's only one outcome and that outcome alone.
Which is something I'm surprised people don't get lol. The remaining could just be used for other places on the packaging, if there are more, which I'm 95% certain those 2 are not it.

If we get a newcomer video only next week, it will likely be Unique. If its not Incineroar (or Ken), then it breaks the box theory rule already. If it is Incineroar and/or Ken, then it still hurts the Box theory because Sakurai will likely save more characters for his final direct.


So my point is, if its NOT the final direct next week, I can't see how the box theory can remotely be supported
 
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I don’t remember: what was the buildup for Robin in Sm4sh? I know the trailer was a surprise, but I assume there was at least a “hey, check this out! We’re livestreaming something in 10 hours!”

Or did it seriously just drop and people were like “wait, wtf?”
The Robin/Lucina trailer was announced like, 12 hours in advance on Sakurai's twitter iirc.
 

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He obviously means that it's a wasted slot used for nothing more than all the 69ing porn Incineroar will get made out of him.
And that’s something nobody needs...or needs more of
 

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im amazed people keep ignoring that DMCV leaker

more and more info keeps coming out about DMCV and the leaker was 100% right about everything


like i fully expect Dante to be revealed in November.
 

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The August Direct was a couple days beforehand.

And as for Robin/Lucina? Depends completely on how many characters are left.


If it's 2-4 characters, including echoes, literally what is the point of revealing one outside of the final Direct?
Ey that is the question? Taking from Papageno's latest video, we could (theoretically) get a double reveal (Kencineroar) so we have the roster...fill out the box for promotional use.

I found it odd that the cards are already being sold, but would kind of make sense to reveal two more characters to flesh out the box for printing.

But who knows for sure?

EDIT: Video for reference.
https://youtu.be/95Nzk6FVP1k
 
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Direct Day: Finally, new info!
Literally a day later: Oh my GOD this is the worst drought EVER we need more info NOW!!!
 

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im amazed people keep ignoring that DMCV leaker

more and more info keeps coming out about DMCV and the leaker was 100% right about everything


like i fully expect Dante to be revealed in November.
You mean the leaker that more or less supports what Vergeben has been saying? I thought you hated Verg.
 

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im amazed people keep ignoring that DMCV leaker

more and more info keeps coming out about DMCV and the leaker was 100% right about everything


like i fully expect Dante to be revealed in November.
Possible reason why people over look this leaker is because Vergeben's partner claimed that the leak support little to evidence of being true. Or so I heard..
 
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The last Direct wasn't even long ago.

Maybe it'll just be a special character reveal a la Robin and Lucina.
 

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I just don't think there are enough characters left to pull a Lucina/Robin type reveal this time.


With Smash4, we had Shulk, Bowser Jr and Duck Hunt along with all the secret characters.

We're not going to have any hidden characters this time, and I legit think 4 more characters is our cap.



I'm on team Smash Direct here, I see no merit in revealing a single character when the final newcomer roster probably doesn't even have that much left.
 

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Has this been posted yet or am I late to the party?

Based on what has been happening, I consider it likely that they will announce the remaining characters sooner rather than later. Sakurai mentioned how there wouldn't be newcomer trailers up until release, which makes me think they're going to get the characters out of the way soon and any future direct will focus on other features. Something similar to the 50-fact thing Smash 4 had.
 

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im amazed people keep ignoring that DMCV leaker

more and more info keeps coming out about DMCV and the leaker was 100% right about everything


like i fully expect Dante to be revealed in November.
Yea, he might end up being the next :ultbayonetta: Reveal for DLC if he does come in. Though if I recall I think the leaker said that the Smash info is uncertain since he isn’t much of fan of Smash? Just take this as a grain of salt for now.
 

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Actually another question.

Has the blog caught up with everything that was shown during the August Direct?

Do we still have more assist, items or Pokemon to go over?

That may give us a hint as to what to expect.

EDIT: I figure we are probably close to the August stuff wrapping up, which could lead credence to this being a Smash Direct.

HOWEVER if there is still more from that to cover...it's hard to say.
 
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Actually another question.

Has the blog caught up with everything that was shown during the August Direct?

Do we still have more assist, items or Pokemon to go over?

That may give us a hint as to what to expect.
The blog hasn’t even caught up with everything from E3.
 

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Actually another question.

Has the blog caught up with everything that was shown during the August Direct?

Do we still have more assist, items or Pokemon to go over?

That may give us a hint as to what to expect.
Yeah there's still stuff left, but at the same time, from what I remember, we didn't catch up with June's Direct either by August.
 
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Actually another question.

Has the blog caught up with everything that was shown during the August Direct?

Do we still have more assist, items or Pokemon to go over?

That may give us a hint as to what to expect.
At this point, pretty much. Unless if they wanna post the Pokemon Sun & Moon remix and that sweet, sweet Central Highway arrangement. I think oddly enough, all signs might be pointing to a separate reveal. It makes sense to get the gun before anyone else does it and before November and development finishes in two weeks or so.

ALSO MY AVATAR IS UPDATED FINALLY, WE ARE BACK IN BUSINESS
 

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If we have around 3 to 4 unique characters left, I could definitely see a Robin/Lucina type reveal happening. Remember, this time Sakurai had a much shorter time to reveal characters, which means less opportunities to reveal them. Smash 4 had E3, a bunch of Nintendo and Smash directs, and even secret characters. We aren't going to get another Nintendo Direct before Ultimate's release, and I assume we aren't getting more than one more smash direct. This would be the perfect time to drop a Character trailer and then announce the final direct date to keep people hyped.
 

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I don’t remember: what was the buildup for Robin in Sm4sh? I know the trailer was a surprise, but I assume there was at least a “hey, check this out! We’re livestreaming something in 10 hours!”

Or did it seriously just drop and people were like “wait, wtf?”
The POTD announced three days before that they were revealing a newcomer through a livestream on the official site on July 14th at 7:00 AM PST. The exact post:

"Oh, by the way! I'd like to reveal a new challenger. Instead of doing the unveiling on something like a Nintendo Direct, we're going to live-stream the reveal on the official website on Monday, July 14, at 7:00 AM US Pacific Time (4:00 PM European Central Time). Looks like we're nearing the bottom of the stash of new challenger videos that we've made... Like always, we put a lot of effort into it, so I hope you'll enjoy watching it live. "

The archive of it can be viewed on SmashWiki. So if we get a reveal like this again, it will probably be announced on the blog in similar fashion.

Curiously Sakurai also said they were nearing the bottom of their unrevealed newcomers, yet there were three more non-clone newcomers afterward, hmmm... :think:
 
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The Robin/Lucina trailer was announced like, 12 hours in advance on Sakurai's twitter iirc.
I don’t remember: what was the buildup for Robin in Sm4sh? I know the trailer was a surprise, but I assume there was at least a “hey, check this out! We’re livestreaming something in 10 hours!”

Or did it seriously just drop and people were like “wait, wtf?”
Close, but it wasn't 12 hours before, it was 3 days before.
The announcement was one the 11th, the reveal was the 14th.

I distinctly remember this announcement in particular, because it's the one that provoked me into joining Smashboards.
 
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im amazed people keep ignoring that DMCV leaker

more and more info keeps coming out about DMCV and the leaker was 100% right about everything


like i fully expect Dante to be revealed in November.
We ignore that "leak" because it was a random anon comment on another rumor thread. This person is NOT the only person who has predicted Isabelle for september. Many people here have lol. Does that make them credible leakers?

If you want pay attention to a possible leak thats not Vergeben or that other guy, then look at the Celica/Geno rumor. I've been defending it since before Isabelle's reveal: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76930527

I could totally see Incineroar, Ken, Celica and Geno being the final reveals by these next 2 months, simply because Celica/Alm are the most relevant FE characters currently and I wouldn't ever doubt Sakurai decided to add yet another FE character XD.
 

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If we have around 3 to 4 unique characters left, I could definitely see a Robin/Lucina type reveal happening. Remember, this time Sakurai had a much shorter time to reveal characters, which means less opportunities to reveal them. Smash 4 had E3, a bunch of Nintendo and Smash directs, and even secret characters. We aren't going to get another Nintendo Direct before Ultimate's release, and I assume we aren't getting more than one more smash direct. This would be the perfect time to drop a Character trailer and then announce the final direct date to keep people hyped.
That is what I am leaning towards. It would make sense to do that personally in my mind.
 

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I think most people who think about box theory 'want' it to be wrong.

Even though I give a big, middle finger to all the fan theories, I still keep "2 more" on the back of my mind so taper my expectations.


I want it to be wrong, who wouldn't? But I'm also not going to lose any sleep over it if it is because, hey, this game's amazing already, and 2 more characters on top of it? Sweet.
 
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You mean the leaker that more or less supports what Vergeben has been saying? I thought you hated Verg.
i dont remember vergerburger ever being mentioned by that guy but the last part of your post made me laugh

Reason why people over look this leaker is because Vergeben's partner claimed that the leak support little to evidence of being true.
im vergy's partner were married i can confirm shadow and dante are in
 

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I think most people who think about box theory 'want' it to be wrong.

Even though I give a big, middle finger to all the fan theories, I still keep "2 more" on the back of my mind so taper my expectations.


I want it to be wrong, who wouldn't? But I'm also not going to lose any sleep over it if it is because, hey, this game's amazing already, and 2 more characters on top of it? Sweet.
I'm honestly going to keep what papagenos papagenos is saying about it, that Ken and Incineroar are possibly the next 2 characters revealed (possibly something to do with being both Fire-based fighters) and are the last 2 characters on the box. However, that would only be the final 2 based on the time the box is printed.

Meaning this supports the box theory being representative with 2 more characters, but it does not mean November can't reveal a few more hidden from the box artwork.
 

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i dont remember vergerburger ever being mentioned by that guy but the last part of your post made me laugh


im vergy's partner were married i can confirm shadow and dante are in
The Dante leaker literally said Ken and Incineroar were in. Earlier tonight you were laughing about Verg being cucked by music theory.
 
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