Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

But another problem, it goes against her character if her ponytail gets ignored. If they were willing to give Isabelle some differences between Villager to fit her character, Dixie should follow the same route. She never played exactly like Diddy in the Dkc games.

She only has one real ponytail-based attack in the games. Which would be her Dash Attack just like Diddy's cartwheel and DK's roll (finally).
She could still reference its other uses with a midair hover like Peach, grabbing items, and various other aesthetic quirks.

 

[Will]

It's been guaranteed every time, so far anyway.

Pattern can be broken, but this has not been.

The only way to know is if we wait.
The most I'm expecting is a Robin type of trailer and then something pushed off for a later date.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So how many theories has been created. Lets see...

Bear theory
Blog theory
Box theory
Card theory
Color theory
Female villain theory
Music theory
Playlist theory

Am I missing any?

 

[SmashChu]

Are we back on the "Vergeben has gotten everything right so far in regards to Smash Ultimate, but h-he's really wrong, guiz?!" train?


Can we not?

So I'm not allowed to comment on his credibility. Does it hurt your feelings I'm doubting the lord and savior.

I'm pointing out that his comment doesn't make sense when you realize that Square isn't making the game so their employees aren't going to need to know the character. I'm sorry. I'll make sure to drink my Kool-aid next time.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Music Theory lives on

....Medusa can't be an Echo.
Too many moves would have to be different to the point she isn't a true Echo.

She'd be Isabelle-styled at best.

Or she can be a Dark Pit type of echo (having a different weapon/power used and a different final smash)...though I would still prefer an aged up Viridi as a Palutena echo or semi-clone

Masahiro Sakurai is the Hideo Kojima of Nintendo.

What if they’re actually the same person playing different roles?

 

[Shroob]

It only being up twice doesn't convince me tbh, I'll try not to expect anything.

There's also the fact that just the other day, the character 20 second trailers were changed by Nintendo thenselves, which has only happened before the 8.8 Direct, and the September Direct.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

But another problem, it goes against her character if her ponytail gets ignored. If they were willing to give Isabelle some differences between Villager to fit her character, Dixie should follow the same route. She never played exactly like Diddy in the Dkc games.

This is a far better reason than others. Though keep in mind that while Dixie plays more like DK, Diddy and her still share the same proportions. That's something Isabelle cannot claim, and still an important reason she's a semi-clone in the first place. Having different personality wouldn't really matter, it's just one of his reasons for making her more unique. She couldn't be an Echo either way. Dixie can be an Echo due to having the right proportions. The only reason she can't is if Diddy still has tail moves, which cannot be changed up easily(hence, if he still does, it's semi-clone or bust).

 

[Chrono.]

Based music theory remains supreme

Verg down the trash lmfaoooooooo

bye

This has the potential to age badly.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

ALERT!
The "new" banner has now been removed from the fighters icon on the site! An announcement may be VERY close!

Character 69 or echo or one of each coming soon

Howling for news

 

[lightdrago]

Bear theory

I need context on this one...

 

[Luigi The President]

But another problem, it goes against her character if her ponytail gets ignored. If they were willing to give Isabelle some differences between Villager to fit her character, Dixie should follow the same route. She never played exactly like Diddy in the Dkc games.

And it goes against Dark Samus' character to have multiple amounts of the moves she does.
You see Sakurai as being a bit TOO faithful. Seeing as the only issue with Dixie is ONE move where she'd use her ponytail...

 

[Chrono.]

The only way to know is if we wait.
The most I'm expecting is a Robin type of trailer and then something pushed off for a later date.

I'll take anything tbh.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I need context on this one...

It came from the Banjo thread. Basically some of the mii costumes in Sm4sh are a brown bear and red bear.

 

[Shroob]

So I'm not allowed to comment on his credibility. Does it hurt your feelings I'm doubting the lord and savior.

I'm pointing out that his comment doesn't make sense when you realize that Square isn't making the game so their employees aren't going to need to know the character. I'm sorry. I'll make sure to drink my Kool-aid next time.

"Lord and savior"

If you did your research, you'd realize I don't even fully believe him.


However, I find it stupid to discredit him because he's been wrong on other games.

 

[Robertman2]

Just a reminder the guy who hasn't been wrong about Smash yet has zero credibility guys

 

[Opossum]

So how many theories has been created. Lets see...

Bear theory
Blog theory
Box theory
Card theory
Color theory
Female villain theory
Music theory
Playlist theory

Am I missing any?

Since when has there been a bear theory? Who allowed this?

 

[Untouch]

Going to be glad when the drought is over, even if it's just for a week.

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

She only has one real ponytail-based attack in the games. Which would be her Dash Attack just like Diddy's cartwheel and DK's roll (finally).
She could still reference its other uses with a midair hover like Peach, grabbing items, and various other aesthetic quirks.

Wrong, she uses her ponytail to grab items, spin around, glide, fly, attack with etc. It's a key element of her character entirely. Diddy can't do anything like that plus she doesn't do any cartwheels.

 

[Will]

It came from the Banjo thread. Basically some of the mii costumes in Sm4sh are a brown bear and red bear.

>the red bear is obviously the bird!!!
gonna have to stop you right there chief

Going to be glad when the drought is over, even if it's just for a week.

Don't lie, these "droughts" happen just one day after something's revealed and everyone's all thirsty again.

 

[SargeAbernathy]

Just refreshed the US site and the "new" tag has now disappeared for me.

 

[Zinith]

What on earth is the "female villain theory?"

 

[viewtifulduck82]

Anyone have a link to verges recent comment on SE? Also, what's this card theory I'm hearing about?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

"Lord and savior"

If you did your research, you'd realize I don't even fully believe him.


However, I find it stupid to discredit him because he's been wrong on other games.

It's honestly impossible to discredit Verg on Smash Ultimate when he's been 100% right and intentionally only tells us stuff he's confident in being true. He outright makes sure stuff that is probably false isn't posted because he doesn't believe in it either. He takes his leaks seriously. And that's awesome.

Besides that, obviously he's going to be fed false information too. Unlike before, he's realized how bad it is to just release any information he gets. He matured in his leaking style, and makes sure he's 100% sure of something before leaking it. That's a big deal too.

It doesn't mean he can't be wrong. But there's nothing to discredit him on. I don't get why people confuse discrediting him with "not 100% believing him like any other leaker because all leakers can have wrong information". They're two different things. Everybody should take Verg with a bit of a grain of salt at the very least. It makes sense. He's not an official Nintendo employee. Of course there's many possibilities.

 

[FalconFire93]

Don't you find it funny
Tomodachi music after Pokémon music.

Why, I don’t see the correlation between the two.

 

[Deleted member]

I need context on this one...

Banjo, Kuma, Freddy Fazbear, Ursaring, Naughty Bear, BearShark, Smokey Bear, Monokuma, etc. are all going to be in Smash.

Because bears.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What on earth is the "female villain theory?"

It is this.

https://www.inverse.com/article/49474-smash-ultimate-leaks-roster-new-character-medusa

 

[Shadowwolflink]

On the homepage it says the composer is Masafumi Takada, which is correct, but on the music page it says Masashi. That's a weird mistake to make.

It's more than that, actually. Chrom canonically performs a nearly-identical move.

I forgot how much I loved Awakening's cutscenes.

 

[Llort A. Ton]

Tomodachi Life music! I'll never forget the hilariously terrible things that came out of that my first playthrough. Married couples included Wario and Zelda, Peach and Jesus Christ, Shrek and Daisy, Samus and myself. I recently rebooted my file to adapt to... modern times, and now George Costanza is dating Wii Fit Trainer. So glad the Tomodachi stage came back for Ultimate.

 

[T3Z3R1]

People , the music is Tomodachi Life , you know whats funny about this?

Tamagotchi

Tomodachi Life is literaly a Tamagotchi made by Nintendo!

And you know what was born With the Tamagotchis!?

Agumon

Just... what? I don't know if you were serious or not, just stop. We know that you're obsessed with wanting Agumon in Smash, so don't take it too further.

 

[Deleted member]

Wrong, she uses her ponytail to grab items, spin around, glide, fly, attack with etc. It's a key element of her character entirely. Diddy can't do anything like that plus she doesn't do any cartwheels.

....you obviously misread the entire post.

 

[Graizen]

Banjo, Kuma, Freddy Fazbear, Ursaring, Naughty Bear, BearShark, Smokey Bear, etc. are all going to be in Smash.

Because bears.

Yui-san , maybe Agumon and Incineroar in a battle for the reveal trailer?

 

[lightdrago]

Banjo, Kuma, Freddy Fazbear, Ursaring, Naughty Bear, BearShark, Smokey Bear, etc. are all going to be in Smash.

Because bears.

Uh, hullo, you missed best bear:

link

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

And it goes against Dark Samus' character to have multiple amounts of the moves she does.
You see Sakurai as being a bit TOO faithful. Seeing as the only issue with Dixie is ONE move where she'd use her ponytail...

In regards to DS, I think Sakurai might have realised making new moves to accompany her AT attacks wouldn't be worth the trouble in this tight dev period and decided to compromise, just in case he'll upgrade her in the future (Smash 6?). It was either that, or floating, not both.

Also, traveling hipster guitarist has apparently displaced Bowsette as the hottest new trend.

 

[SonicMario]

Since when has there been a bear theory? Who allowed this?

Remaining newcomers are Banjo, Monokuma, and Brash the Bear

 

[TheCJBrine]

While we can't discredit Vergeben on Smash Ultimate, his recent statement regarding Geno was entirely his own speculation. That's all it was. Plus imo it's more-likely SE doesn't give a crap about which of their names get leaked as long as it let's them catch a leaker, and they're smart to know not to fire people over fake leaks on 4chan.

 

[CosmicQuark]

My prediction: Incineroar is announced either in or around a Pokemon Direct, focused on Let's Go.
My hope: Someone Verge has not predicted to throw us off guard--maybe Isaac/Felix.
My dream: Banjo & Kazooie along with a N64 Classic with Rare titles announced, along with that plushie that's to possibly be released this month.

 

[Jigglymaster]

What on earth is the "female villain theory?"

Bowsette confirmed my dudes

 

[Graizen]

Just... what? I don't know if you were serious or not, just stop. We know that you're obsessed with wanting Agumon in Smash, so don't take it too further.

It is not bad to talk about a character i want for Smash.
And im just pointing facts, you can search for it if you want.

 

[Luigi The President]

In regards to DS, I think Sakurai might have realised making new moves to accompany her AT attacks wouldn't be worth the trouble in this tight dev period and decided to compromise, just in case he'll upgrade her in the future (Smash 6?). It was either that, or floating, not both.

Also, traveling hipster guitarist has apparently displaced Bowsette as the hottest new trend.

Doesn't really matter what his motivation was because either way Dixie is very excusable as an Echo now.

 

[FalconFire93]

Anyone have a link to verges recent comment on SE? Also, what's this card theory I'm hearing about?

Card theory is pretty much similar to the box theory with the two spaces.