Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Noipoi]

>walks on the street with a "shoot me" sign
>gets shooted
>wonders why he got shooted
Hmm....

That's not the same thing at all and you know it.

 

[T3Z3R1]

I agree.

So, what do you guys think about a western third party company like Bethesda getting characters in Smash?

Hm, I would want Doomguy from doom, and Banjo & Koozie.

Edit: Oh and Steve frm Minecraft as well,

 

[Noipoi]

I guess if you really, really, really dig, but I'm not seeing it.

vs

I love Incineroar, he's my most wanted right now, but Decidueye most certainly has personality. It could be shown a little better in his animations but he's canonically a huge dork who pretends to act cool but loses it whenever something goes a little wrong. That's pretty funny.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I agree.

So, what do you guys think about a western third party company like Bethesda getting characters in Smash?

Banjo-Kazooie

Minecraft Steve

 

[Swamp Sensei]

>walks on the street with a "shoot me" sign
>gets shooted
>wonders why he got shooted
Hmm....

Except nobody should have actually shot him.

Cause even with the sign it's still wrong.

 

[AlphaSSB]

At this point, I don't care about Vergeben.

If in the end, he gets everything right, whatever.

If in the end, a Gematsu situation happens and he gets something wrong, whatever.

I just want to learn more about Spirits mode.

 

[Opossum]

>walks on the street with a "shoot me" sign
>gets shooted
>wonders why he got shooted
Hmm....

Is there genuinely something wrong with you? Seriously. If you can't see that victim blaming is wrong, you lack empathy entirely.

 

[SuperSceptile15]

You know, as someone who had Litten as their Alola starter and who was actually elated to see it’s leaked final form, I don’t know if I should feel disheartened that there’s still people regurgitating their unbridled hate towards Incineroar considering that it’s been almost two years since SuMo came out. Incineroar was my favorite Fire-starter in a long time; it had personality, a badass theme, a unique typing, it looked like the kind of Pokemon that could kick your butt and laugh about it every day of the week. I thought it looked so cool, especially when compared to past Fire-starters. It hadn’t made me feel excited for a starter Pokemon in a long time.

I wasn’t actually expecting to see Incineroar in Smash as a playable character. In fact, I wasn’t even excited to see a new Pokemon character at all in the roster with the front runners that we had previously. Decidueye looked so bland and uninteresting to me, Mimikyu always felt to me that it would more likely be a Pokeball Pokemon than a playable character, and Lycanroc was barely a blip on the radar for me. But Incineroar, like in SuMo, excited me like no other Pokemon candidate would. I mean, look at him! He’s a freakin’ wrestler! We don’t have a character like that in the roster, and the fact that it was my Alola starter has actually made me excited for a Pokemon newcomer!

Sakurai already amazed me with Ridley and Simon, but if he actually puts in Incineroar I would just be blown away even further. So as an Incineroar fan, so what if he’s hated? He’s a heel wrestler, he feeds off the salt of haters.

My main gripe with Incineroar is that it just looks weird. The head, face, torso, and arms are fine, but what is going on with its lower half? Its legs look very bright and don't match with its torso well at all in terms of color. They're so tiny compared to its massive torso and arms. Also, the black and red striped lines all over its limbs look bad too and the coloring of its belt sticks out like a sore thumb as well. I know it's Pokemon so it's not meant to look entirely serious, but Pokemon is capable of much better designs while also not looking overly edgy/serious (literally any other Pokemon rep in Smash). Incineroar is a prime example of a Pokemon with a good concept, but terrible execution.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Honestly still confused about Mario Odyesseys ending...Why does peach just reject Mario and leave him on he moon? I dunno, maybe I’m being sums or looking too much into this.

 

[Captain Fun]

He brought it upon himself the moment he made the conscientious decision to leak this game. You shouldn't feel any sympathy for him.

I don't know if I'd say I feel sympathy, but a lot of the Smash fanbase has been terrible to Verge. There were a lot of threads tagging him and harassing him over theories he doesn't want to comment on. The Smash fanbase can be hostile towards leakers, if you remember the kind of bile Sal Romano had slung at him when the gematsu leak got stuff wrong, and while it is predictable, that doesn't make it right.

>walks on the street with a "shoot me" sign
>gets shooted
>wonders why he got shooted
Hmm....

He wasn't literally asking to "get shooted" and even if he did, that wouldn't justify anyone doing that.

The fans are responsible for their own awful behavior, regardless of whether or not it is expected.

 

[Cosmic77]

Hey, you know that Smash game that's coming out in December? Crazy idea, but what if we talked about that game instead of looping this argument for the next two or three hours?

Seriously, this thread is making a mountain out of a molehill. It's not worth the time.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Hey, you know that Smash game that's coming out in December? Crazy idea, but what if we talked about that game instead of looping this argument for the next two or three hours?

Seriously, this thread is making a mountain out of a molehill. It's not worth the time.

Smash is a carbon copy of Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale

 

[Shroob]

*Walks in*

"A---"

*Sees all of.....this*

*Walks out*


This is why I stick to the leak thread, jesus christ

 

[SuperSceptile15]

He's leaking a incredibly popular series.

But WHY? How much of an attention-seeker do you have to be to derive fame from leaking content that several people worked incredibly hard to make? Vergeben, like any other leaker, is a leech who is trying to gain popularity off of other people's hard work.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Honestly still confused about Mario Odyesseys ending...Why does peach just reject Mario and leave him on he moon? I dunno, maybe I’m being sums or looking too much into this.

Pretty simple, she doesn't want to be married. She did inform Mario she was leaving when she said "c'mon" though.

 

[Iridium]

So, what happened with Vergeben? It's a war in here.

 

[Opossum]

Honestly still confused about Mario Odyesseys ending...Why does peach just reject Mario and leave him on he moon? I dunno, maybe I’m being sums or looking too much into this.

I mean to be fair, Mario was kind of acting like a stereotypical "Nice Guy" there. The way both he and Bowser overwhelmingly pined for her without regard to what she might want, or even whether or not she wanted to be married in the first place, soured things for her. Honestly she was absolutely right there. You go girl, you aren't a prize to be won by a winner.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Pretty simple, she doesn't want to be married. She did inform Mario she was leaving when she said "c'mon" though.

Yup. It’s just me being dumb. Thanks tho!

So, what happened with Vergeben? It's a war in here.

I’m confused as well.

 

[Pakky]

It's literally canon that Decidueye puts on a facade of stoicism and coolness but gets flustered beyond belief if it's startled or ambushed. You not being able to see it doesn't mean Decidueye doesn't have personality.

Where is this is what I'm asking.

 

[Noipoi]

Honestly still confused about Mario Odyesseys ending...Why does peach just reject Mario and leave him on he moon? I dunno, maybe I’m being sums or looking too much into this.

She didn't like how Mario and Bowser were fighting over her like an object they both thought they deserved. She did inform Mario that they were leaving so it's not like she left him to rot. Bowser's gonna die on the moon though.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Yup. It’s just me being dumb. Thanks tho!


I’m confused as well.

So, what happened with Vergeben? It's a war in here.

Nah i started it all, i'm just gonna head back to my cave and lurk some more.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

But WHY? How much of an attention-seeker do you have to be to derive fame from leaking content that several people worked incredibly hard to make? Vergeben, like any other leaker, is a leech who is trying to gain popularity off of other people's hard work.

It's not so much attention seeking, but people are hungry for info for a game they are hyped for, he has a way to get that unknown information and shares it.

I know some may say, but "Leaks only lead to disappointment", that's not necessarily true, as there is still many if not more people that are more than satisfied getting to hear or see this info early.

 

[FirestormNeos]

It would appear that firearms have recently been discharged.

Indeed. I'm torn on Shantae tbh. On one hand, she's cute, her series would fit into Smash like a glove, and it's very easy to imagine a moveset for her. On the other hand, I don't like the "Sailor Moon" vibes that I get from her and her series.

I mean, the person who was behind the ESRB leak wasn't very nice either. Especially with his..."unique" username

Oh crap, do I even wanna know?

Normies are the kind of ""people"" who follow trends and behave like machines, they don't think by themselves, they eat up anything that's thrown at them even if it's a big pile of ****

Oh, so people who don't actually exist in the video game community outside of maybe people who only play CoD or Madden?

>walks on the street with a "shoot me" sign
>gets shooted
>wonders why he got shooted
Hmm....

Okay, I didn't want to say anything, but this statement ****ing REEKS of red flags.

 

[Over9000BPM]

*Walks in*

"A---"

*Sees all of.....this*

*Walks out*


This is why I stick to the leak thread, jesus christ

But we’re literally talking about a leaker, how can that thread be any different?

 

[T3Z3R1]

But WHY? How much of an attention-seeker do you have to be to derive fame from leaking content that several people worked incredibly hard to make? Vergeben, like any other leaker, is a leech who is trying to gain popularity off of other people's hard work.

DUDE. Just stop, don't be harsh about hating on Verge. We get it, but don't drag it out for too long and we don't want this thread to be locked within minutes.

So, what happened with Vergeben? It's a war in here.

Some people are using "Verge being ass yesterday" as proof to not trush him and his leaks, just ignore them. they're in their dream where they get their wanted newcomers in smash,

 

[Blargg888]

I like how you unironically used the word "normies," as it implies disliking Incineroar is abnormal. Fitting, really.

Well, I mean, Incineroar is a Heel wrestler right? So shouldn’t it actually be the other way around?

 

[AustarusIV]

My main gripe with Incineroar is that it just looks weird. The head, face, torso, and arms are fine, but what is going on with its lower half? Its legs look very bright and don't match with its torso well at all in terms of color. They're so tiny compared to its massive torso and arms. Also, the black and red striped lines all over its limbs look bad too and the coloring of its belt sticks out like a sore thumb as well. I know it's Pokemon so it's not meant to look entirely serious, but Pokemon is capable of much better designs while also not looking overly edgy/serious (literally any other Pokemon rep in Smash). Incineroar is a prime example of a Pokemon with a good concept, but terrible execution.

To each their own.

I will say that I found Incineroar’s concept and execution to be much better than pretty much every other fan concept of Litten’s Final Evo, IMHO. I’m sure I would’ve liked a “quadruped tiger” evo if it existed, but Incineroar’s Tiger Mask/wrestler appearance and concept has more than won me over.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

She didn't like how Mario and Bowser were fighting over her like an object they both thought they deserved. She did inform Mario that they were leaving so it's not like she left him to rot. Bowser's gonna die on the moon though.

And Pauline too. And everyone else that was in the chapel.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

We're still talking about Verge?


See this is why we can't have nice things here anymore

 

[Will]

I guess if you really, really, really dig, but I'm not seeing it.

vs

Dang, Sakurai made a rule saying you need personality to be in Smash now?
However will ever get in Smash now?!

 

[T3Z3R1]

About Incienroar, just imagine if some player can use him like King in Tekken and then it must be worth to see some characters being suplexed to death due to the fact that he was based on wrestler.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Indeed. I'm torn on Shantae tbh. On one hand, she's cute, her series would fit into Smash like a glove, and it's very easy to imagine a moveset for her. On the other hand, I don't like the "Sailor Moon" vibes that I get from her and her series.



Oh crap, do I even wanna know?



Oh, so people who don't actually exist in the video game community outside of maybe people who only play CoD or Madden?



Okay, I didn't want to say anything, but this statement ****ing REEKS of red flags.

I know very little about Sailor Moon so I honestly couldn’t tell you if that’s accurate or not.

 

[Kirbeh]

This turn in conversation didn't favor me at all. It just reminds me that I haven't played Odyssey yet.

 

[Noipoi]

This turn in conversation didn't favor me at all. It just reminds me that I haven't played Odyssey yet.

...What the heck are you doing here then?

GO! GO PLAY IT!

IT'S THE BEST MARIO GAME IN YEARS IT'S MY FAVORITE RIGHT NOW!

GO PLAY IT!

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

This turn in conversation didn't favor me at all. It just reminds me that I haven't played Odyssey yet.

Ok, so inform me. Considering your icon is Bowsette, can you explain Bowsette? I never got the appeal.

 

[DJ3DS]

Dang, Sakurai made a rule saying you need personality to be in Smash now?
However will ever get in Smash now?!

I'm gonna need you to go back to Brawl, play Subspace Emissary, and then try talk smack about how my boy ROB doesn't have personality. >:[

 

[Pakky]

Dang, Sakurai made a rule saying you need personality to be in Smash now?
However will ever get in Smash now?!

Well Shoot I never said he did, so...

Though for as much as people like the owl, I guess it doesn't matter whether he has one or not.

Also I like how you chose the one character that had an entire backstory in Brawl

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Indeed. I'm torn on Shantae tbh. On one hand, she's cute, her series would fit into Smash like a glove, and it's very easy to imagine a moveset for her. On the other hand, I don't like the "Sailor Moon" vibes that I get from her and her series.

What Sailor Moon vibe?

Shantae never fought villains based of random stuff lying about the writer's house when a deadline was encroaching and they needed filler.

 

[FirestormNeos]

Well, I mean, Incineroar is a Heel wrestler right? So shouldn’t it actually be the other way around?

A good heel is a character you love to hate. Or so I've been told.

And Pauline too. And everyone else that was in the chapel.

Eh, they can call an uber or something.

I know very little about Sailor Moon so I honestly couldn’t tell you if that’s accurate or not.

What Sailor Moon vibe?

Shantae never fought villains based of random stuff lying about the writer's house when a deadline was encroaching and they needed filler.

Perhaps "Sailor Moon" wasn't the right term I was looking for.

 

[Will]

...What the heck are you doing here then?

GO! GO PLAY IT!

IT'S THE BEST MARIO GAME IN YEARS IT'S MY FAVORITE RIGHT NOW!

GO PLAY IT!

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