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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Y'all better not be ****ting on my boy ROB. He's a super duper robot with lasers. AND HE'S THE GODDAMN ANCIENT MINISTER. HE MISSES HIS KIND
Someone is ****ting on R.O.B.?

No bully the buddy.

He's a good lonely robot.



For real though, unless the roster is absolutely gutted, R.O.B. has no reason to leave. :4rob: He's a two time retro veteran with no moveset issues and a sizable fanbase.
 
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You are grossly (and deliberately) simplifying them. This is incredibly disingenuous of you.
Okay.
A robot whose purpose was to move spinning tops to emulate a player 2 NES controller for like, two games and that was it.
A monochrome stick figure comprised of numerous monochrome stick figures from a very early form of handheld gaming.
A dog whose entire purpose was to laugh at you in a light gun arcade game, alongside a duck whose entire purpose was to be shot at in said light gun arcade game.
And two eskimos intended to be Player 1 and Player 2 from an arcade-like platformer that to this day has one of the most bizarre jump physics I've seen in a video game.

And a man on a bike.
 
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Yo, is anyone else hyped for moveset revamps?

With this new Kirby game coming out I can only hope the smash team actually decides to change up the Kirby’s character’s movesets cause HOO BOY do they need some updates.
That and could we get Bandana Waddle Dee and Marx (since they’re apparently pushing him as an ally now) as playable characters??


BoTW Link getting a moveset revamp seems the most obvious at this point but I’m hyped for possible Zelda changes too.
 
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I don't know how to respond to this. Can someone else help me? Because this is gibberish.
You do not have to agree, I am just not overly fond of the characters in the slightest. When I play them, which is only if I have random fighter selected, the fun of the game is literally absent. Playing against them, all you see is their bland designs which you cannot help but think, "this character is literally in the game because it is a piece of history as opposed to a compelling character." At least Ice Climbers and Duck Hunt have something more tangible to offer.
 

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Something to consider:
The Splatoon characters were Mii costumes in Sm4sh, and now they're (basically) confirned for the next title. Previously, Little Mac was an assist trophy in Brawl, and he became his own character in Sm4sh.
Basically, Sm4sh Mii Costumes are a pretty viable point for speculation imo. Just wanted to point that out.
If we don’t hear anything else till E3 that means there’s going to be a hell of a blowout of characters in the E3 Direct. Aside from that we’d only have a max of 6 months for character reveals up until release. The reveal schedule for characters this game is going to be absolutely beat ****...

Unless it gets delayed.
Oh ye of little faith.
Honestly, if they tease at or drop even the slightest hint of new, exciting modes or retutning modes (*wink wink* ADVENTURE MODE *nudge nudge), I will forgive any reveals that do or don't happen.

This thread moves fast considering how little has been announced.

OT it was funny listening to the "non-threatening" male voice actor try to sell Darksouls and Little Nightmares and the "non-threatening" female actor try to hype Mario Tennis. Ninendo's treating them like baby's first M rated game.
"All around me are familiar faces."
Long time no see. :4link:
 
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Wasn't Excitebike supposed to be in Melee? Why do people think he doesn't have moveset potential?
2 SG links in a day. Sweet
https://sourcegaming.info/2016/04/29/duflupdate/
On the Ice Climbers’ character introduction page on the Japanese Melee site, Sakurai talks about wanting one retro representative from Nintendo’s Famicon/NES days. There was a pool of candidates, and the Ice Climbers were chosen via process of elimination. The other candidates were:

Balloon Fight — seems like he wouldn’t be able to do anything after his balloons are popped

Urban Champion — seems like he doesn’t have a lot of moves

Clu Clu Land — don’t know how she would fight

Excitebike — we’d need to make ramps for him to jump (that’s not really the issue)
so. . .it doesn't seem like excitebiker even made it out of the pool of candidates. Probably not a lot of work on them. These are assumptions from me of course, but I don't think they are unreasonable :p
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Smash speculation is a damn drug

I love throwing around guesses for new stuff and feeding on the hype but it always leaves me feeling burned out as I’m waiting for something to happen. It’s only been a day and I’m already going nuts, and the feeling of having to wait for at least two months is gonna drive me insane. But even though I know nothing new is gonna happen soon I just keep checking and reading threads.
 

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Yo, is anyone else hyped for moveset revamps?

With this new Kirby game coming out I can only hope the smash team actually decides to change up the Kirby’s character’s movesets cause HOO BOY do they need some updates.
That and could we get Bandana Waddle Dee and Marx (since they’re apparently pushing him as an ally now) as playable characters??


BoTW Link getting a moveset revamp seems the most obvious at this point but I’m hyped for possible Zelda changes too.
Yes, realistically move-set revamps are going to be what justifies this game. We already have most essential characters and I have no idea what the cap is for third-party characters and the precedent of the series is very "anti-omission." At this point, it has been nearly a decade with the same move-sets for most of the OG cast. It is about time they touched up the move-sets just a bit. They do it every game, slightly, but I have a feeling this is the one where they turn conventions on their heads.
 

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This thread has had more discussion on Excitebiker than the thread ever will.
Look I know it's not K.Rool but I tried my best. This is the best I have, it was either this or the Spelunker man.

Where did I go wrong?
 

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Something I’d like to see would be to have Chrom redeem himself and be meme’d err... revealed as a playable fighter on July 14th, 2018. The meme storm would be glorious.

Also, Ganondorf with his HW appearance and reworked so he can use the Great Swords or the Trident.
 

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Something I’d like to see would be to have Chrom redeem himself and be meme’d err... revealed as a playable fighter on July 14th, 2018. The meme storm would be glorious.

Also, Ganondorf with his HW appearance and reworked so he can use the Great Swords or the Trident.
Those are literally the only two things I want. Mostly because Chrom would mean Lucina could be a clone of him instead. And with the Legend of Zelda series more or less stagnating since Melee, it would be nice to actually have Ganon with a Legend of Zelda move-set. Either that, or give him a racing car for his final smash at least.
 

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The ****'s a Spelunksr?
Only the best character in video games.
But no one remembers Spleunkerman, so I went with the next best option. I've never even played Excitebike.

All I wanted was for one character to not be tainted by the toxicity I've seen in other character discussion threads. He doesn't deserve to go down the road of ****ty arguments about why Nintendo is stupid if he doesn't get in. Just one.
All he wants is to go fast.
 
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It would be suicide to release a tease like that if it was a port.

That said, BRING ON THE HYPE TRAIN MY DUDES, IT'S TIME
If it were a port, we'd have known just about everything about it. Characters and stages slated to come with the launch game, modes, and actual gameplay, right there in the Direct like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe did on last year's presentation. But they didn't. It's a new title.
 

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On the subject of ROB, it would be neat to see Gyromite represented somehow, even if it is just an assist trophy or stage.
 

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I feel like I've had an existential crisis today. It feels uncomfy.

On the subject of ROB, it would be neat to see Gyromite represented somehow, even if it is just an assist trophy or stage.
If we're talking Assist Trophies.
We could always have the doctor guy. Who could take control of another character for some time.
 

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Those are literally the only two things I want. Mostly because Chrom would mean Lucina could be a clone of him instead. And with the Legend of Zelda series more or less stagnating since Melee, it would be nice to actually have Ganon with a Legend of Zelda move-set. Either that, or give him a racing car for his final smash at least.
You say that but then you forget Chrom would be a clone of Ike...
 

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I honestly couldn't care less if Gyromite got a stage, R. O. B. definitely isn't remembered for the game attached. I like how he's THE NES two and as such his home stages are usually classic NES stages or in the case of Smash 3DS, hardware stage Pictochat.


I actually wouldn't mind a large stage that takes place on a bunch of floating Nintendo systems and that could be his home stage.
 

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Essential Music Tracks for me:

Super Mario
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Pokemon
Fire Emblem
 

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Man it's crazy to get back into speculation again after about three years! It feels super nostalgic...

Sentimental feelings aside...

I feel Takamaru and Excite Bike are great retro choices for this game. Takamaru being probably the most likely, as he's already on Sakurai's radar as an assist trophy. Excite Bike would be crazy enough for Sakurai to do, but I really see him as Assist Trophy material. It most likely depends on how much Sakurai focuses on new Nintendo titles and third party icons. Who knows :drshrug:
 

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Okay.
A robot whose purpose was to move spinning tops to emulate a player 2 NES controller for like, two games and that was it.
A monochrome stick figure comprised of numerous monochrome stick figures from a very early form of handheld gaming.
A dog whose entire purpose was to laugh at you in a light gun arcade game, alongside a duck whose entire purpose was to be shot at in said light gun arcade game.
And two eskimos intended to be Player 1 and Player 2 from an arcade-like platformer that to this day has one of the most bizarre jump physics I've seen in a video game.

And a man on a bike.
Um. Did you think I didn't hear you the first time? Cuz you're still doing the same thing.
 
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That would be hilarious. Lucina as Marth and Chrom as Ike. I must have done something to anger the blue haired gods of Fire Emblem.
It's how Robin got in, he has a blue hair alt.
Roy is totes ****ed though, they don't like him too much. He snuck under the radar.
 
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i would prefer for Ganondorf to use a trident, if her were ever to get reworked (pls). His swords would still be fine though.
 
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All of yall suggesting retro picks to be on par with:4gaw::4rob::4duckhunt:are missing a key detail here - they weren't included simply because they were retro reps, that would be someone like Ice Climbers. They were included as "surprise" characters that no one would ever expect until the game was released (or they were leaked). I'm not saying that the likes of Balloon Figher, the Excitebike racer, and the character from Urban Champion won't get in - they just won't be classified with the three above characters, mainly because they were already considered for Melee.

That being said, unless we get another character to rep the fighting style, my pick for an obscure retro character would have to be either Fighter Hayabusa or Star Man from Pro Wrestling. A wrestling-like character is something we've yet to see in Smash, and the concept alone leaves a lot of potential.
 
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Him too but buff the h*** out of him, felt too basic to use in smash 4 since his brawl nerf. Would be cool to see him with a diff move set and have all the pilots as alternate colors



If they wanted to go the original route they had planned, split Alph into his own clone character with the Rock Pikmin to differentiate him from Olimar, make Louie the Olimar Alt character and then put Brittany as the Alph Alt Character. Charlie and the President have similar-ish body shapes that don't really match up with the other four, but nobody's really clamoring for either of them.
 

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My only Retro pick is Takamaru. Got a big soft spot for him thanks to last game’s speculation.
 

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All of yall suggesting retro picks to be on par with:4gaw::4rob::4duckhunt:are missing a key detail here - they weren't included simply because they were retro reps, that would be someone like Ice Climbers. They were included as "surprise" characters that no one would ever expect until the game was released (or they were leaked). I'm not saying that the likes of Balloon Figher, the Excitebike racer, and the character from Urban Champion won't get in - they just won't be classified with the three above characters, mainly because they were already considered for Melee.

That being said, unless we get another character to rep the fighting style, my pick for an obscure retro character would have to be either Fighter Hayabusa or Star Man from Pro Wrestling. A wrestling-like character is something we've yet to see in Smash, and the concept alone leaves a lot of potential.
That's where Doshin comes in. :awesome:
 

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Who do you guys think will be the WTF?! Character this time around???

Melee has Game & Watch

Brawl had R.O.B

And Wii U/3DS had Wii Fit Trainer.
 

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If they wanted to go the original route they had planned, split Alph into his own clone character with the Rock Pikmin to differentiate him from Olimar, make Louie the Olimar Alt character and then put Brittany as the Alph Alt Character. Charlie and the President have similar-ish body shapes that don't really match up with the other four, but nobody's really clamoring for either of them.
It would probably make more sense to have Brittany as an alt of Louie.

But, if this game is being built off of Smash for Wii U, then Alph definitely should be a separate character as intended with Rock & Wing Pikmin instead of White & Purple Pikmin. And then give Olimar & Alph the jetpack from Hey! Pikmin.
 

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You lucky *******, I'll never forget that day.
Oh, you know I won't.

Every once in a while I read my Duck Hunt Dog support thread and I always get goosebumps when I read some of your reactions to the ESRB leak and the official confirmation when the 3DS version came out in Japan. That was the first and last time that support thread saw a lot of activity. It meant a lot to me that Duck Hunt Dog finally was one of the most wanted and most discussed characters in the Smash community. It was a dream come true for people to finally see the light that I saw in 2002.
 
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