Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[SebasSancy]

Just give me Isaac, Elma and Dixie Kong in the same direct so I can wait happy to the game release

 

[KMDP]

My gut will tell me people will be disappointed

I mean, disappointment has already happened...

And it will continue to happen.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

You've incorrectly assumed that the two players are necessary. One player play is also an integral part of fighting games, and predates the two player aspect by a long shot.



I looked up Punch-out and it's literally listed as a Fighting game. You seem to think a game can't be more than one genre, for some reason.

The genre may have began with the typical arcade style but by this definition, any game where you fight 1v1 against npcs in succession is a fighting game.

And that really doesn't make any sense.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Alright here’s a game.

Out of these possible newcomers:
-Geno
-Issac
-Isabelle
-Bandana Dee
-Shadow
-Rayman
-Banjo
-Incinaroar

Who do you think you’ll end up maining regardless if you supported them or not?

For some reason I feel like bandana dee would be broken as hell to play. Also he's super flashy with just a spear so he'd be my go to if he was in. Not even my top pick either.
aka, something Kirby sized with huge reach.

 

[P1ZZ4CHU]

But not SF, SF2, SSF2, SSF2T, SSF2tNC, SS2TE, SSF2HF, USF2, SFA, SFA2, SFA3, SF3, SF3:2I, SF3:3S, SF4, SSF4, SSF4AE, USF4, SFEX, SFEX2, SFEX3, MvC, MvC2, MvC3, UMvC3, MvCI, CvSNK, CvSNK2, SFxTK, X-Men vs SF, Marvel vs SF, or Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Just to name a few.

Not saying he's some sort of PlayStation exclusive.

I'm just saying it's sadistically funny that they essentially commissioned SFV when they couldn't even get Ryu in their own crossover fighting game.

 

[Idon]

It's about reading tells and pushing buttons in the desired sequence to knock down an opponent. I fail to see how that aspect makes it any more of a puzzle game than other fighting games

By that logic, ****ing everything is a fighting game. You broaden your definition so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like calling Dark Souls a rhthym game or Dance Dance Revolution an action RPG.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Smash bosses have always been huge, Skull Kid wouldn't make any sense as a boss unless he's in the same vein as Bowser in Subspace, in which he's more of a "CHALLENGER APPROACHING"

Leaky isn't even credible; they guessed the March direct's date right but also said "Luigi's Mansion DLC for Odyssey"

yeah but that's ignoring the possibility that skull kid is just one phase of the fight before majora and it's various forms takes over. It would certainly be different for a smash boss at the very least.

 

[Deleted member]

Alright here’s a game.

Out of these possible newcomers:
-Geno
-Issac
-Isabelle
-Bandana Dee
-Shadow
-Rayman
-Banjo
-Incinaroar

Who do you think you’ll end up maining regardless if you supported them or not?

Bandana Dee and Isabelle for sure. Maaaaaybe Shadow, but I'd probably only play him as a just for fun character. The rest are characters I'd mess around with like I do all Smash characters, but are probably characters I wouldn't really feel motivated to "git gud" with unless their moveset just really clicked with me.

 

[Pyra]

By that logic, ****ing everything is a fighting game. You broaden your definition so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like calling Dark Souls a rhthym game or Dance Dance Revolution an action RPG.

Which they are.

 

[TheCJBrine]

yeah but that's ignoring the possibility that skull kid is just one phase of the fight before majora and it's various forms takes over. It would certainly be different for a smash boss at the very least.

I guess, but you also never fight Skull Kid himself in the original game, so it'd make no sense unless he's also playable. And Skull Kid would be annoying to hit, assuming they wouldn't make his phase ridiculously easy.

If LeakyPandy actually saw something or has a source that did, they're making assumptions or don't have all the info. And there's no credibility to back them up, anyway.

 

[Over9000BPM]

I mean, disappointment has already happened...

And it will continue to happen.

Yeah

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Over9000BPM You CAN'T argue against this. She's coming and you know it

 

[KMDP]

By that logic, ****ing everything is a fighting game. You broaden your definition so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like calling Dark Souls a rhthym game or Dance Dance Revolution an action RPG.

Persona is my favourite Dating Sim.
(No, I've not ever played Persona or SMT, I just said this for the sake of a joke.)

 

[Zathura]

Over9000BPM You CAN'T argue against this. She's coming and you know it

Truly compelling evidence, I know I've been swayed

 

[Deleted member]

By that logic, ****ing everything is a fighting game. You broaden your definition so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like calling Dark Souls a rhthym game or Dance Dance Revolution an action RPG.

Or Smash a fighting game

 

[Nonno Umby]

Alright here’s a game.

Out of these possible newcomers:
-Geno
-Issac
-Isabelle
-Bandana Dee
-Shadow
-Rayman
-Banjo
-Incinaroar

Who do you think you’ll end up maining regardless if you supported them or not?

Probably just Bandana Dee since he is so adorable. The rest doesn't really say nothing to me so far, but the same could be said about Ridley and now I want to try it so...

 

[Over9000BPM]

Over9000BPM You CAN'T argue against this. She's coming and you know it

I want it to happen too bud but I’ve already been let down twice

 

[Abha]

Or Smash a fighting game

Ryu is in, literally undisputedly a fighting game.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Or Smash a fighting game

AP HE SAID IT, HERE WE GO AGAIN

 

[Nethermoosen]

By that logic, ****ing everything is a fighting game. You broaden your definition so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like calling Dark Souls a rhthym game or Dance Dance Revolution an action RPG.

Yeah. It’s like calling all music the same just because it’s all essentially sounds arranged in patterns.

 

[SebasSancy]

Over9000BPM You CAN'T argue against this. She's coming and you know it

we will always see hints where we want them to be. Is like we Isaac fans and the Rathalos pic

 

[staindgrey]

Not saying he's some sort of PlayStation exclusive.

I'm just saying it's sadistically funny that they essentially commissioned SFV when they couldn't even get Ryu in their own crossover fighting game.

I still don't understand how the character selection process worked for that game. They seemed to be missing a lot of "Playstation All-Stars" while putting in Big Daddy, Isaac Clarke and Dante.

 

[Idon]

Persona is my favourite Dating Sim.
(No, I've not ever played Persona or SMT, I just said this for the sake of a joke.)

Okay, but to be fair, that one kinda is true.

It's a very basic dating sim, mixed with a slice of life simulator, mixed with a dungeon crawler. That's probably why a lot of people like it now that I mention it.

 

[Potato_]

Smash bosses have always been huge, Skull Kid wouldn't make any sense as a boss unless he's in the same vein as Bowser in Subspace, in which he's more of a "CHALLENGER APPROACHING"

Leaky isn't even credible; they guessed the March direct's date right but also said "Luigi's Mansion DLC for Odyssey"

I've expressed a similar opinion in the past, that Skull Kid as a boss wouldn't be very fun to face specifically because it would most likely be a pain to even hit the guy. Every boss is big to allow easy hits on them, with Skull Kid most likely both flying and being very small it would be a nightmare. They'd have to make him stop after casting spells or something.

Anyways I hope it's BS.

Alright here’s a game.

Out of these possible newcomers:
-Geno
-Issac
-Isabelle
-Bandana Dee
-Shadow
-Rayman
-Banjo
-Incinaroar

Who do you think you’ll end up maining regardless if you supported them or not?

Dee and Rayman are two of my most wanted, so I'd definitely have to play them a lot. I don't want to claim I'd main anyone though because I don't know how they'd translate to smash.

I'd also want to play Shadow, especially if his specials are changed a bit.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Or Smash a fighting game

Or Gothitelle worth a damn.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

Alright here’s a game.

Out of these possible newcomers:
-Geno
-Issac
-Isabelle
-Bandana Dee
-Shadow
-Rayman
-Banjo
-Incinaroar

Who do you think you’ll end up maining regardless if you supported them or not?

Despite really disliking his visual design, I think Incineroar has the potential for a really fun grappler move set. I hope he plays somewhat like Beowulf from Skullgirls who can move and jump while grabbing an opponent.

I’m a sucker for unconventional fighters, so I’ll be at least interested in Isabelle’s move set. If Isabelle is an echo I’ll still play her, because I love Villager’s moveset.

 

[KMDP]

Over9000BPM You CAN'T argue against this. She's coming and you know it

"Everyday is a new adventure".

La-la~... La-la~... la-la~ A New Venture, la~la...

 

[ColietheGoalie]

By that logic, ****ing everything is a fighting game. You broaden your definition so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like calling Dark Souls a rhthym game or Dance Dance Revolution an action RPG.

Kind of like how saying that Punch Out!! is a puzzle game because you have to notice fighting patterns?

The entire thing is framed around a recognized, real-world fighting style, and involves facing opponents one after the other in an effort to win a title. That sounds like a fighting game to me.

It's also worth noting I have no dog in this fight, I'm just doing a little bit of devil's advocate

 

[IGuessItsOver]

I want it to happen too bud but I’ve already been let down twice

we will always see hints where we want them to be. Is like we Isaac fans and the Rathalos pic

Come on, this one's blatantly obvious and it hasn't been deconfirmed yet

 

[staindgrey]

That's a lot of ifs. Are you saying we're going to get another Fire Emblem If (Fates) character?

I want another Fire Emblem character. But not that.

Not. That.

 

[Rayman001]

Btw, there was a Pokemon in that "leak" named gillybl...aka gullible.

It's literally fake.

ooooh I didnt get that. Such a shame, I really loved the idea of Isaac using all four types of djinn

And how do you know we won't be getting a new Pokémon whose name is a pun on gullible?
This doesn't disprove the leak imo, some Pokémon just have weird names.

 

[Deleted member]

Or Gothitelle worth a damn.

I'm sorry that Gothitelle got in. My dad may be Nintendo, but he's not Game Freak, so I can't get him to take her out. It's out of my hands now.

 

[Blargg888]

Persona is my favourite Dating Sim.
(No, I've not ever played Persona or SMT, I just said this for the sake of a joke.)

F-Zero is my favorite dating sim.

Ryu is in, literally undisputedly a fighting game.

I mean, Ryu is in a lot of things.
Are Project X Zone and Monster Hunter fighting games too?

I swear to god if a NINTENDO CROSSOVER FIGHTER somehow gets Snake, Cloud, the real Dante, Bayonetta, and Ryu first...

@Playstation All-Stars

Was Bayonetta really a Playstation All-Star though?
Like, wasn't it also released on the Xbox and PC?
Feels like kind of a stretch to me.

 

[Deleted member]

I want another Fire Emblem character. But not that.

Not. That.

But we have to fill the quota and invite Camilla in! Don't you want the prophecy to be fulfilled?!

 

[Over9000BPM]

Come on, this one's blatantly obvious and it hasn't been deconfirmed yet

RISKY BOOTS’S SHIP STAGE CONFIRMED

 

[Potato_]

Come on, this one's blatantly obvious and it hasn't been deconfirmed yet

I don't care in the slightest for Shantae but I want this to be true solely because it's a clever and hilarious way of hinting at it.

 

[Abha]

I'm sorry that Gothitelle got in. My dad may be Nintendo, but he's not Game Freak, so I can't get him to take her out. It's out of my hands now.

Gardevoir supporters are just upset they got it backwards and she is actually a Gothitelle echo.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Kind of like how saying that Punch Out!! is a puzzle game because you have to notice fighting patterns?

The entire thing is framed around a recognized, real-world fighting style, and involves facing opponents one after the other in an effort to win a title. That sounds like a fighting game to me.

It's also worth noting I have no dog in this fight, I'm just doing a little bit of devil's advocate

It's just the setting of punch-out, man. The gameplay of punch-out is way too different to be a fighting game.


It's like calling Metal Gear Solid 2 a first person shooter just because there's a first person view available

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Come on, this one's blatantly obvious and it hasn't been deconfirmed yet

Neither has this

 

[KMDP]

Okay, but to be fair, that one kinda is true.

It's a very basic dating sim, mixed with a slice of life simulator, mixed with a dungeon crawler. That's probably why a lot of people like it now that I mention it.

Persona is a series of Edutainment Games.

Don't even bother trying to prove me wrong, you know it's true.