Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Megadoomer]

Lmao what the ****? Being a **** doesn't make you represent balance, especially as you usually threaten to block people when being proven wrong on something. If you have a job, try 'representing balance' to your boss, see how it goes.

Also, I played some Bayonetta the other day, it is a crime that the Smash team made remixes of Mysterious Destiny and Tomorrow is Mine without the mesmerizing vocals

I find it weird that some songs (like the Sonic Adventure ones) get vocals while others (the Bayonetta themes, Snake Eater) don't. Maybe there's some sort of legal issue?

 

[Deleted member]

On the subject of unlockables, I'm all for the idea of cheat codes.
While I understand why people are frustrated that their friends didn't take the time to unlock their favorite character, I'd hate it if the next game had like 70-ish characters and they would all be available from the get-go, because I gotta have that sense of pride and accomplishment™.

As far as Ridley goes, I'm gonna be honest... The more I think about this, the more I lose interest. While I can see he has the right credentials, from a pure gameplay perspective he just seems dull, and contrary to a popular opinion, being unique is very important when it comes to choosing newcocmers. That is all I'm gonna say on the matter.

@UserKev Trying to force people to support a character they hate doesn't represent "balance".

 

[Swamp Sensei]

. While I can see he has the right credentials, from a pure gameplay perspective he just seems dull,

May I ask why you think that?

 

[Cosmic77]

As far as Ridley goes, I'm gonna be honest... The more I think about this, the more I lose interest. While I can see he has the right credentials, from a pure gameplay perspective he just seems dull, and contrary to a popular opinion, being unique is very important when it comes to choosing newcocmers. That is all I'm gonna say on the matter.

How can you claim Ridley wouldn't be unique if you haven't even seen his moveset yet?

 

[Deleted member]

How can you claim Ridley wouldn't be unique if you haven't even seen his moveset yet?

You're saying this as if you've seen it or if we're ever gonna see it in the future. Also,

May I ask why you think that?

Because as far as I'm aware there's not much to him aside from slashing things with his claws and occasionally breathing fire, and a friend of mine who is a Metroid fanatic brought this up.
And I know people are gonna bring up Little Mac, but I won't take it seriously unless someone shows a moveset that's actually well made.

 

[Cosmic77]

You're saying this as if you've seen it or if we're ever gonna see it in the future.

That's a little mean to us Ridley supporters, don't you think? Weren't you just complaining a few days ago about how much you have to put up with for being a Decidueye fan?

 

[Deleted member]

That's a little mean to us Ridley supporters, don't you think? Weren't you just complaining a few days ago about how much you have to put up with for being a Decidueye fan?

Being told that it's never going to happen =/= you should stop supporting them.
I'm just being realistic.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Okay for the "Wario being a clone thing" that I mentioned, this is where I got it from as it was from a 2002 Famitsu interview (shamelessly stolen from DK Vine).


https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...mmunity-edition.448761/page-151#post-37915502

 

[Cosmic77]

Being told that it's never going to happen =/= you should stop supporting them.
I'm just being realistic.

Being told that you're being unrealistic is a polite way of saying, "You're wasting your time supporting this character because it's never gonna happen anyway."

Ridley's chances aren't great, but at least he's a notable Nintendo character with fan support. Some of us still think he's worth the trouble.

 

[Deleted member]

Being told that you're being unrealistic is a polite way of saying, "You're wasting your time supporting this character because it's never gonna happen anyway."

Not... Really?
Supporting Ridley is fine, but expecting him seems like purely wishful thinking.
Supporting a character =/= Expecting a character

 

[Lukingordex]

I would love the idea of having the option to unlock everything from the get go with a code or something, that would make me 100% support unlockable characters and stages. Crusade does that already and it's a nice thing to have.

 

[Cosmic77]

Okay for the "Wario being a clone thing" that I mentioned, this is where I got it from as it was from a 2002 Famitsu interview (shamelessly stolen from DK Vine).


https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...mmunity-edition.448761/page-151#post-37915502

I thought I had read something like that before. Not sure how much credibility there is to that, but a questionable source is better than no source at all.

Not... Really?
Supporting Ridley is fine, but expecting him seems like purely wishful thinking.
Supporting a character =/= Expecting a character

I never said I was expecting Ridley, just that there's enough reasons left to not give up on his chances and continue supporting him.

It's fine if you don't want Ridley in Smash. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and I'm certainly not trying to disregard yours. Just remember that just because you see a character as impossible doesn't mean everyone else will.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm expecting about 5038167401 unique newcomers so eh

In all seriousness, I feel Ridley could be very unique by being the only character to have grabs and throws while in the air

 

[Zem-raj]

Pay attention to Metroid Prime 4. That game would likely be the one that dictates if there is another Metroid character and who it would be if so.

Sorry, I don't agree here.

Did Metroid Prime 3: Corruption dictate which Metroid character would get added for Super Smash Bros. Brawl? No it did not.

With Ridley as a boss in Sub Space Emissary, they could've picked Dark Samus, Gandrayda, Ghor, or Rundas as a fighter, to promote for Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, yet they didn't.

Did Metroid Other M dictate which Metroid character would get added for Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for WiiU? No it did not.

With Ridley and Dark Samus in non-playable roles, they could've picked Adam Malkovich or Anthony Higgs as a fighter, to promote Metroid Other M, yet they didn't (and for good reason too).

Just because Metroid Prime 4 might have a new character or returning one, does not mean they will be added. Metroid as a series might end up just with Samus and Zero Suit Samus again, in Smash 6. The Super Smash Bros. series has a history of having content focusing on the main series / 2D games, as they appeal more to all audiences (whereas Prime has less appeal to the Japanese audience). If Smash 6 has been in development since 2014/2015, it'll probably have Metroid Samus Returns content, as that was in development around the same time, whereas Prime 4 probably started in 2016/2017. If Smash 6 is being released this year, like rumours seem to suggest (though we need to take this with a pinch of salt, considering who the rumour is from), it's unlikely to get much content from Prime 4.

People shouldn't jump to conclusions and say [insert character in Prime 4] will be picked, because we've already seen countless times where characters, who've been in recent games around the time for each respective Super Smash Bros. game, and were thought as shoo-ins or "most likely", weren't picked. It also depends on who the director is this time - Sakurai might not even be coming back, it might be someone new.

 

[Chron]

As for characters, Decidueye is probably the most likely of the Sun/Moon starters with multiple jumps and a bow. Also one of the ultra beasts is possible or the Tapus each being an alternate costume with different visuals for each attack but the same effect. For swordfighters, Chrom, Alm, and Celica are possible. Marth is safe but his twin sister and Our Boy are likely out. Lucina could possibly be an alternate costume for Marth however. Shovel Knight, King Knight, Specter Knight, and Plague Knight could all be cool characters but it's unlikely to get more than 1 or 2 of them. I think Plague Knight could have the most interesting moveset though. Toad Treasure Tracker would make be an interesting character. Inklings are basically guaranteed. If I could have any character though, it would have to be Felicia from FE Fates.

 

[Deleted member]

Shovel Knight, King Knight, Specter Knight, and Plague Knight could all be cool characters but Shovel Knight is the only one with an actual chance.

Fixed.
I'd be all for Specter Knight though.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

The winner of the last poll was the porcupine knight Chestnaught. @Delzethin must be happy to hear that Delphox support still lives and fared well. So did Diggerby. But no one saw anything interesting about Florges.

Next would be a poll featuring many fan favorite Pokemon, especially one that was notoriously banned from tournaments and made its way to Pokken. Your picks are Aegislash, Hawlucha, Goodra, and Tyrantrum.

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Luchador vs Ghost Knight, go!

 

[Deleted member]

The winner of the last poll was the porcupine knight Chestnaught. @Delzethin must be happy to hear that Delphox support still lives and fared well. So did Diggerby. But no one saw anything interesting about Florges.

Next would be a poll featuring many fan favorite Pokemon, especially one that was notoriously banned from tournaments and made its way to Pokken. Your picks are Aegislash, Hawlucha, Goodra, and Tyrantrum.

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Luchador vs Ghost Knight, go!

Dammit, Aussie, you actually made a poll where I can't decide between two of the choices.

Okay for the "Wario being a clone thing" that I mentioned, this is where I got it from as it was from a 2002 Famitsu interview (shamelessly stolen from DK Vine).


https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next-super-smash-bros-discussion-thread-community-edition.448761/page-151#post-37915502

And do you see who the poster is?
cednym.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Swamp Sensei and @GoldenYuiitusin are correct. Wario wasn't considered for a clone character in Melee.

He ranked high in the high in the Smash Ballot for Melee, but because Sakurai felt there were too many Mario characters, Wario was not prioritized. The quote is in my Wario epic, Why Does Wario Fart (Direct link to the quote).

Since I was a kid, I really felt Wario, King Dedede, and Donkey Kong Jr. should have been in Melee.

 

[Luminario]

You people know Mother Brain has a humanoid form in Other M right?

Well I did say I'd like something between MB's cyborg form and Melissa. Melissa was a good idea on paper, but it was another thing they handled badly in Other M.

Honestly, besides her monstrous form in Other M, which could easily be downsized, her Captain N tank form surprisingly could work extremely well, though the latter probably would work better as a boss. But it doesn't lack move options(nor movement options), and I'm not sure it could be balanced with that huge of a hitbox. Also, if Nintendo does legit own Captain N like I keep hearing, remodeling that design to work in Smash would be interesting.

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Wish I had a good picture of her on a tank, but eh. The Assist Trophy in Smash 4 already has the same ideal design overall, just missing the tank, so simply adding that could be enough. But as I said, balance might be the major problem as is.

Mind you, Ridley's my first choice, but Mother Brain is honestly pretty awesome(and also one of the most memorable characters of that show. Helps that she has personality, unlike in the games where she's nothing more than a monstrous boss either way).

All I can think of when I see her Captain N form is this

Moisturise me
It could work I guess, but I don't think many Metroid fans will appreciate it. I feel she would have to have a humanoid form from a well received game in order to be a Smash candidate, or at least a humanoid representative that MB is controlling with telepathy.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Honestly, besides her monstrous form in Other M, which could easily be downsized, her Captain N tank form surprisingly could work extremely well, though the latter probably would work better as a boss. But it doesn't lack move options(nor movement options), and I'm not sure it could be balanced with that huge of a hitbox. Also, if Nintendo does legit own Captain N like I keep hearing, remodeling that design to work in Smash would be interesting.

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Wish I had a good picture of her on a tank, but eh. The Assist Trophy in Smash 4 already has the same ideal design overall, just missing the tank, so simply adding that could be enough. But as I said, balance might be the major problem as is.

Mind you, Ridley's my first choice, but Mother Brain is honestly pretty awesome(and also one of the most memorable characters of that show. Helps that she has personality, unlike in the games where she's nothing more than a monstrous boss either way).

Levi Stubbs' performance on that show is both the only good thing about and the best thing about it. He makes Mother Brain one of my favorite cartoon villains of all time along with Dr. Robotnik & King K. Rool.

It's a shame that "Little Shop of Horrors" and "Captain N: The Game Master" are literally the only two things he was ever in.

 

[Deleted member]

Moisturise me

I think I just died.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Ridley has a pretty ******** moveset in the psas that have been made, I just think it doesn't make any sense for a charachter who can fly indefinitely to be in Smash.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

And the winner of the poll was the luchador star Hawlucha (Should had been in Pokken). Aegislash did prove to have a sizable fandom in the long run. While it was Goodra and Tyrantrum who were left in the dust.

Next up is the last Gen 6 poll before we are up to date with Gen 7. Your choices are Pangoro, Diancie, Trevenant, and Meowstic.

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Are you are excited for the inevitable Decidueye vs Incineroar?

 

[Deleted member]

Are you are excited for the inevitable Decidueye vs Incineroar?

I certainly am, although I'm not opposed to Incineroar at all.

 

[Opossum]

And the winner of the poll was the luchador star Hawlucha (Should had been in Pokken). Aegislash did prove to have a sizable fandom in the long run. While it was Goodra and Tyrantrum who were left in the dust.

Next up is the last Gen 6 poll before we are up to date with Gen 7. Your choices are Pangoro, Diancie, Trevenant, and Meowstic.

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Are you are excited for the inevitable Decidueye vs Incineroar?

Trevenant would be legitimately awesome in Smash.

 

[Freduardo]

Ridley has a pretty ******** moveset in the psas that have been made, I just think it doesn't make any sense for a charachter who can fly indefinitely to be in Smash.

Can’t Pit fly? I mean I get he does it cause Palutena gives him the ability.... but then... can’t Palutena fly?

And Charizard? I think he gains Flying type when he evolves.

Also Kirby and Meta Knight.

Secret shame: I miss the soaring mechanic.

Also, I really wouldn’t bat an eye if I saw Fox or Falco wear a jet pack or have jet boots in a game....

Or Samus for that matter.

And I think Diddy Kong has a jet pack too. And a move where he flies around on it (like his final Smash). ROB kind of becomes a jet pack...

Mewtwo probably can fly... someone, test the HM. I know Mew can.

Jr’s Kart should be able to fly.

I think a lot of smashers can fly.

Some of them, like Bowser Jr. are just so noble they would never cheat.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I certainly am, although I'm not opposed to Incineroar at all.

Same.

Both are great Pokemon that would be cool in Smash.

But Smash is dying for that true wrester one day. Sorry Bowser.

 

[Deleted member]

Same.

Both are great Pokemon that would be cool in Smash.

But Smash is dying for that true wrester one day. Sorry Bowser.

It's also dying for that ghostly archer though.
I'd vastly prefer said ghostly archer but the fire wrestler would be pretty sweet

honestly i'd rather have anything over mimikyu

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Can’t Pit fly? I mean I get he does it cause Palutena gives him the ability.... but then... can’t Palutena fly?

And Charizard? I think he gains Flying type when he evolves.

Also Kirby and Meta Knight.

Secret shame: I miss the soaring mechanic.

Also, I really wouldn’t bat an eye if I saw Fox or Falco wear a jet pack or have jet boots in a game....

Or Samus for that matter.

And I think Diddy Kong has a jet pack too. And a move where he flies around on it (like his final Smash). ROB kind of becomes a jet pack...

Mewtwo probably can fly... someone, test the HM. I know Mew can.

Jr’s Kart should be able to fly.

I think a lot of smashers can fly.

Some of them, like Bowser Jr. are just so noble they would never cheat.

I've already addressed this stuff in this thread. Maybe I should make a copypasta

Same.

Both are great Pokemon that would be cool in Smash.

But Smash is dying for that true wrester one day. Sorry Bowser.

Zangief?

 

[RandomAce]

Are you are excited for the inevitable Decidueye vs Incineroar?

I'm going for the former, Incineroar would be cool but tbh Decidueye seems more unique, and he would be the first grass based character in smash.
We're also missing an earth based fighter too, a specific pokemon I want.

 

[Freduardo]

I've already addressed this stuff in this thread. Maybe I should make a copypasta

You’ve addressed Bowser Jr’s nobility‽

Okay, well, fair enough.


And I think Diancie could be pretty wild in smash.

 

[Bowserlick]

Decidueye Moveset

The grass/ghost type owl has the archer ability. This is a mechanic where all his aerial (A) attacks can be charged. All of them are projectiles expect for one.

The pokemon relies on a volley of projectiles and its multiple jumps to land and evade attacks. Place a target on them, soften them up, shackle them down, and smash them away.

Decidueye is not a fast runner, but has a quick walk, good airspeed, and long-range attacks. Knock-outs are made easier when your opponent is chained to the floor.

Spoiler

AERIALS

Archer Ability: All aerials can be charged.

Down Aerial (Solar Beam): Fires a beam of light formed as an arrow directly downwards. A long-range attack that does decent damage at the cost of almost no knockback. However, the beam of light causes a ring of splash damage if it collides with the ground, which does result in sending opponents flying.

The charged shot does more damage and has minor horizontal knock-back from the beam and better horizontal knock-back explosion upon the ground. Used correctly, this is a kill opportunity.

Back Aerial (Astonish): The owl turns his head over a shoulder and retches up lunch in a downward arching spew of bones and skulls. Of course, the longer the attack is charged, the more bones find their way out of Decidueye’s stomach. This unconventional attack hits multiple times and has a slight meteor effect.

Forward Aerial (Razor Leaf): Fires a sharp leaf arrow at a downward diagonal. Decidueye pulls back on his winged bow as the move is charged which results in a stronger shot.

Up Aerial (Spore): Shoots a seed directly above. The seed goes a short distance before shedding its shell and becoming a harmless white puff. But if the seed makes contact with an enemy there is an explosion of spores, which has high vertical knockback (a reference to Ivysaur’s Up Air and Up Smash from Brawk). This is a kill move.

Neutral Air (Feather Dance): This is Decidueye’s only non-projectile aerial. He holds out his bladed wings to the side and completes a spin. Holding the attack before release results in more spins and the ability to slightly control horizontal movement during the attack.

SMASHES

Down Smash (U-turn): The owl flies in a tight pivoting circle inches above the ground where he was standing. The move is quick and great at pushing enemies back for some breathing room.

Forward Smash (Aeroblast): The pokemon flaps his wings forward in order to generate a slash of air. The wing slap can push an enemy into the projectile. While the attack has lag, the movement of the attack sends the archer backwards.

Up Smash (Acrobatics): The owl flips upside down and pushes its wings along the floor as a brace. He flaps the flattened wings and launches himself talons first toward the sky as he spins.

SPECIALS

B Special (Leafage): Fires a glowing green orb that spirals. Decidueye can hold B for a charge. The length of the charge results in more spiraling green orbs that fan out. The orbs only amount in minor hit-stun if more than of them connect with a target.

Down Special (Curse): The owl takes on a wavering ethereal form. If struck with an attack, Decidueye negates the damage and places a ghostly purple bulls-eye on the target. The bulls-eye fades, leaving a purple glow on the opponent. Projectiles do more damage and shield damage in this state.

The length of the curse is tied to the damage dealt to and negated by the owl.

Side Special (Spirit Shackle): Fires a purple ghostly arrow. The shot can be charged and angled. Upon contact purple chains lash out of the opponent in a restricted circle.

Depending the opponent’s damage and their curse status and the charge of the arrow, the radius can increase in size and the chains can strengthen.

On a grounded opponent, the arrow’s chains will shackle the enemy to the ground OR if near another enemy the chains will shackle both individuals to each other.

On an aerial opponent if the radius of chains touched the ground, the chains will latch to the ground and snap the enemy to the floor. If the chains contact another enemy, however, both opponents will be shackled together and fall.

Up B (Brave Bird): The owl launches straight up and performs a dive bomb. The attack can be angled as long as the angle is lower than the position of Decidueye.

While this attack can do damage and knockback to the enemy, a technique can be used for greater knockback. If B is pressed, the owl will unfurl its wings and stop, creating a sonic boom sphere around its body. The longer the dive before the cancel, the bigger the sonic boom.

TILTS

A (Peck): A quick peck attack with hit-stun, but poor range.

Tilt A (Rolling Kick): Jumps in the air performing a windmill slice with a wing immediately followed by a talon-tipped roundhouse.

Down Tilt (Cut): While crouching the owl folds his wings across his chest. A press of (A) will have him unfold his sharp wings in a horizontal slice.

Up Tilt (Fury Attack): Falls flat on his back and rapidly kicks upwards. Holding A will continue the kicks.

Running A (Triple Kick): Leaps with talons first, deliver three rapid forward kicks to rack up damage on a foe.

GRABS

Leaps off the ground and grabs with talons.
A: Delivers a hard peck on the skull.

Forward Throw: A ghostly purple bow appears and the enemy is notched into the phantom device. Decidueye leaps off his enemy and pantomimes shooting an arrow resulting in the spectral bow shooting the opponent forward.

Back Throw: Pivots in place with wings flapping and the opponent swinging around by the tightly gripping talons. Swings around twice before chucking the enemy.

Up Throw: Flies around in two loops while clutching the opponent. During the height of the second loop, the owl chucks his enemy upwards.

Down Throw: Pushes the opponent on the ground into a tripped position as the owl does a small hop into the air. The throw ends with Decidueye airborn.

Incineroar Moveset

Incineroar is a heavy grappler character. Three of his specials and one smash have grab commands and his other special move prevents himself from being grabbed while the move is charging. While his smashes are strong enough on their own to throw enemies out of the ring, he can add fire and explosion effects for additional crowd-pleasing carnage. The cat's mechanic allows him to turn any aerial into a falling, ground splashing attack for exciting finishing moves.

Incineroar Mechanic: Finishing Move – If the (A) button is held during anyone of the cat’s aerial attacks, Incineroar plummets to the floor while performing the attack. He accelerates as long as the (A) button is held. The biggest knockback from the move comes from falling onto a ground opponent. The higher the distance when the feline performs the finishing move, the greater the damage and force.

Spoiler

Aerial Attacks and Finishing Moves

(Neutral Aerial) Performs a body splash similar to King DeDeDe’s neutral aerial. Low damage, pushes the opponent to the side.
(Neutral Finish Move) Splashes onto his stomach and chest and sends the opponent in a horizontal direction.

(Forward Aerial) Incineroar slaps in a downward arc with an open paw. Medium attack.
(Forward Finishing Move) Smacks his paw on the floor creating a small shockwave. Sends the opponent in an arc.

(Back Aerial) Incineroar laces together his paws into a hammerfist and swings his body backwards in an arc. This is an inverse DK’s forward aerial. The fist has a sweetspot meteor effect.
(Back Finishing Move) The cat lands on his back and curled fist. His back sends the opponent outwards, but his fist sends the enemy in a vertical manner for high knockback.

(Down Aerial) The cat laces together his paws and throws down an elbow. This has a meteor effect.
(Down Finishing Move) Lands on his elbow. This move does not have great range, but does tremendous shield damage. Sends the opponent in an arc.

(Up Aerial) The cat performs a vertical dropkick for good knock-back.
(Up Finishing Move) The cat lands on his shoulders and upper back. This is the weakest finishing move.

Specials

(B) Flame Charge – The cat strikes a beckoning pose as his body heats up.
• The heat counters any grab attempt and punishes the opponent with slight hitstun and damage.
• The charge makes Incineroar’s belt glow. The move adds fire effects to the next Smash move that is performed. A full charge adds an explosion.

(Side B) Acrobatics – Incineroar summons two poles attached with three ropes constructed from dark energy. Incineroar leans back on the ropes as the move is charged.
• Once released the cat shoots forward, body parallel to the floor with arms stretched outwards.
• The first part of the move grabs. If he grabs an enemy, he will somersault around them while moving and kick them off at the end.
• After the sweetspot passes, if no one is grabbed, the cat twirls in the air like a drill with outstretched claws inflicting multiple hits to the enemy like Metaknight’s side B.

(Up B) Brutal Swing– Incineroar leaps up in the air with an outstretched paw and grabs his enemy, swinging the victim downwards. Goes 2/3rd’s the distance of Wario’s corkscrew and can be slightly angled left or right in a similar fashion.

(Down B) Darkest Lariat – The cat does one rotation in place and then shoots out his arms to either side of him for a grab attempt.
• Incineroar can grab one enemy with each hand.
• Once a grab is completed, Incineroar spins. The cat and his captured swinging prey can be moved left or right during the spin. Tapping B increases the duration and damage. At the end, Incineroar tosses the enemy or enemies.

Smashes

(Forward Smash) Incineroar laces his paws together, takes a step forward and brings down a hammerfist crashing to the floor.

(Down Smash) Incineroar jumps up, splits, and lands on his outstreched legs for a double-leg drop.

(Up Smash) Incineroar arcs both his paws over his head (which does slash damage on the sides) and laces together his claws.
• If the enemy is hit at the apex when the claws come together, Incineroar grabs them and performs a backbreaker, smashing them over his knee and flinging them to the side. High damage.

Attacks

(A) Slashes.
(A, A) Slashes, and then throws out a knee.
(A,A,A) Slashes, throws out a knee and then performs a spinning backhand.

(Side A) Incineroar cross-slashes with his clawed paws. At the apex, the claws strike each other creating a jet of sparks.
• The slash does medium damage and knock-back.
• The sparks (if it hits the front of the opponent) causes brief stun.

(Up A) Performs a quick slashing uppercut.

(Crouch) Crouches down on all fours like a cat ready to pounce. Can crawl.

(Down A) Lunges very far forward and swipes with a paw. Pops the enemy up, however the cat crashes onto his shoulder if he misses and suffers lag.

(Running A) Performs a sliding clothesline. The sweetspot floors the opponent.

Throws
(Grab) Grabs the opponent by neck and lifts them off the floor.
(Pummel) Jabs the enemy in the side with his unoccupied claws
(Down Throw) Choke slam.
(Up Throw) Three quick uppercuts to the gut, with the last one sending the enemy into the sky.
(Forward Throw) Kicks them forward.
(Back Throw) Releases the opponent, grabs the legs with cat-like reflexes and heaves them in one swing behind him.
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[Al-kīmiyā']

We're also missing an earth based fighter too, a specific pokemon I want.

Zygarde?

Isaac isn't a pokémon, you know.

 

[RandomAce]

Zygrade?
Isaac isn't a pokémon, you know.

LOL! No I'm not talking about Issac, Issac is more of both a grass and earth based fighter. (I still want Issac.) I'm talking about Lycanroc from Gen 7.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Decidueye or Incineroar would be pretty cool, so I'd definitely be satisfied with either.

I have no idea what Pokemon I want the most over any of the others as of now, though.

 

[NintenRob]

Well I did say I'd like something between MB's cyborg form and Melissa. Melissa was a good idea on paper, but it was another thing they handled badly in Other M.

All I can think of when I see her Captain N form is this

Moisturise me
It could work I guess, but I don't think many Metroid fans will appreciate it. I feel she would have to have a humanoid form from a well received game in order to be a Smash candidate, or at least a humanoid representative that MB is controlling with telepathy.

Let's be honest here. The Doctor really deserves to be a newcomer. He could have all 14 faces as alts. Sonic screwdriver for some attacks, a spoon for others. And of course fish fingers and custard.


And throw in a Dalek while we're at it. EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm going for the former, Incineroar would be cool but tbh Decidueye seems more unique, and he would be the first grass based character in smash.
We're also missing an earth based fighter too, a specific pokemon I want.

Ivysaur is the first Grass-based fighter in Smash.

Though the Ghostly Grass Owl would be a fun choice too.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I can't believe Smash Bros' objectively best character that should never have been cut was forgotten.

Ya'll are ignorant heathens.

 

[Chron]

Trevenant would be awesome.

I would have chosen Aegislash over Hawlucha but he's cool too.

Rex is a probably in, but how about Pyra? I'm just not sure about 2 Xenoblade characters making it.

Also wedding outfit alts for the Mario characters would be cool.