Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Imagine if Sakurai adding all the characters he decided to add in Smash was just a coincidence, and not for all the reasons we thought... in an alternate universe. How would you all feel?

My opinion doesn't change assuming the roster's the same.

 

[Mc.Rad]

*sighs dejectedly* Until we get SOMETHING sonic, I'm just going ot be crying in the corner as newcomer after newcomer is announced, and people keep getting their biggest hopes, all except sonic fans. *cries*

Welcome to my world...

 

[Opossum]

Yet people didn't freak out over Krystal (Who is in her native attire) and Phosphora no?

Phosphora's ass didn't stick half way out of her shorts. There's a big difference between her and Pyra. The game is E10. If Corrin needed her thighs covered, there's no way CERO's letting Pyra in without pants. That's just the reality of it...though I really don't want this to go into a full scale debate, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[Chrono.]

To play devil's advocate, it is a game franchise by bandai namco, brings something different and is extremely popular. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it had some sort of content in Ultimate, unless it's a character. Same with Minecraft, and hell, even Fortnite.

Yeah but Idolmaster is pretty much exclusive to Japan, none of the games have been localized. Not even the mobile ones. I think the only thing Imas we've gotten in the states were the Tekken 7 costumes, and that's probably because they're both from the same company (and Harada being a pretty shameless fan of it.)

I get that it's a huge brand over there, but I'd sooner expect content from something like Tales waaaay before Idolmaster.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Do you think this hidden mode will involve beating up enemies a la SSE or Smash Run? And if so, what new enemies do you want to see?

King Boo, Petey, Shy Guys, Kamek, Bokoblins and Moblins, a Lynel, a Guardian, Waddle Dees just to spite everyone, KREMLINGS, Badniks, and the list goes on

 

[Noipoi]

Do you think this hidden mode will involve beating up enemies a la SSE or Smash Run? And if so, what new enemies do you want to see?

Salandit would be pretty cool.

They're basically grunt Pokemon already, perfect for easily killed basic enemies.

 

[MrRoidley]

Do you think this hidden mode will involve beating up enemies a la SSE or Smash Run? And if so, what new enemies do you want to see?

I think so, but not with a story. It'll be more like Melee's Adventure Mode
I'd love to see the G.U.N. robots from Sonic Adventure 2, some of those monsters from the Fire Emblem series and... Guardians from BOTW

 

[Fenriraga]

*sighs dejectedly* Until we get SOMETHING sonic, I'm just going ot be crying in the corner as newcomer after newcomer is announced, and people keep getting their biggest hopes, all except sonic fans. *cries*

...We have Sonic.

That is MORE than enough.

Besides, Shadow has practically been a lock since the last direct as an echo.

 

[MBRedboy31]

I really don't think this Skull Kid boss rumor makes sense as I said before but, about him being a small boss...
...y'know, it's always possible we could be having the first small boss in the series, or he just transforms into Majora.

Praying this isn't the case though......

Just saying, but, in general, a small boss isn’t impossible. I say this because the way the bosses work in Smash games seems to be clearly based on how the bosses work in Kirby games, and Kirby games sometimes have bosses that are Kirby’s size and it works fine (such as Meta / Dark Meta / Galacta / ect. Knight.)

 

[WertQuadNine]

Lol Brawlhalla is a ubisoft published game, of course they'd use Rayman as a promotional character. This really doesn't affect his smash chances at all in my opinion.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Wouldn't Skull Kid have a large form since he would turn into Majora?

 

[Fenriraga]

Lol Brawlhalla us a ubisoft published game, of course they'd use Rayman as a promotional character. This really doesn't affect his smash chances at all in my opinion.

It wouldn't really affect his chances even if it wasn't a Ubisoft game.

What developers do with their characters has no bearing on who Sakurai wants in, lol.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Salandit would be pretty cool.
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They're basically grunt Pokemon already, perfect for easily killed basic enemies.

****. Why not fight the Ultra Beasts? Most are of a good enough size compared to some enemies from the SSE. The trashbag pokémon or Delibird can even just be a reskin of that enemy in SSE that just tjrew out food and junk as it ran

 

[Noipoi]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of

Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

 

[Nethermoosen]

Salandit would be pretty cool.
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They're basically grunt Pokemon already, perfect for easily killed basic enemies.

Only if momma Salazzle is the boss ala Sun and Moon.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

But every boss that’s been in a Smash Bros has been giant.

Metal Mario was a boss in the first game and not giant.

This doesn't really matter, honestly.

 

[blazefan519]

That would be me.

Pretty sure that's not "illegal", but in all honesty, the novelty of getting taken to court over posting some guy's fake Smash leaks would be so worth it.

Oh wow it's you. Major props to getting rid of all those accusations in one fell swoop, lol.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of
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Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

To be fair, they only appeared in one room of the Halberd or factory thing-y as mere decorations.

 

[Noipoi]

****. Why not fight the Ultra Beasts? Most are of a good enough size compared to some enemies from the SSE. The trashbag pokémon or Delibird can even just be a reskin of that enemy in SSE that just tjrew out food and junk as it ran

The Ultra Beasts would make pretty good enemies.
Especially Poipole!

Only if momma Salazzle is the boss ala Sun and Moon.

We can't do that, she'll confuse the children.

 

[Deleted member]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of
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Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

Mizzo should be playable.

 

[Thermithral]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of
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Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

Obviously, that is the next stage in Pikmin evolution. The Blue Berry Brawler Pikmin.
-Squishy, and floats on water.
-Wins every arm wrestling mini-game in Pikmin 4

 

[Iridium]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of
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Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

Eh, Primids were fine though.

 

[Noipoi]

To be fair, they only appeared in one room of the Halberd or factory thing-y as mere decorations.

I know, I just picked the freakiest Subspace enemy I could think of.

 

[Deleted member]

Do you think this hidden mode will involve beating up enemies a la SSE or Smash Run? And if so, what new enemies do you want to see?

My guess is that it'll take ideas from Melee's Adventure Mode and Smash Run and mix them with some of the ideas Sakurai had back in his Kirby days. Enemies and locations from all the represented series, mini games like break the targets and trophy mini games, all connected through a Great Cave Offensive styled level layout. Each new area could be gated by a boss from Nintendo history. Heck, I could even see there being a story if the cutscenes go the way of Mario Tennis Aces.

Or it could be Smash Tour 2. A mode beloved by the community, praised for it's engaging gameplay and tight design making it's triumphant return. It even comes with the option to play Classic Mode in the style of Wii U Classic! And that's not all: If you 100% this mode, you'll unlock the fan favorite Pac-Land stage! All you gotta do is beat the mode on 9.0 difficulty without losing a life as a nerfed Wii U Jigglypuff.

 

[Chrono.]

Metal Mario was a boss in the first game and not giant.

This doesn't really matter, honestly.

Also Tabuu, while bigger than the cast, wasn't exactly MASSIVE either (well with his wings he is.)

Bosses having to be huge just feels like another fan rule to me.

 

[SebasSancy]

I dont know why the Rayman's inclution to Brawlhalla will hurt his chances to get in smash! Shovel Knight is in everything at this point

 

[Enchess]

Obviously, that is the next stage in Pikmin evolution. The Blue Berry Brawler Pikmin.
-Squishy, and floats on water.
-Wins every arm wrestling mini-game in Pikmin 4

I feel like the next Pikmin are black. No idea what they'll do. Maybe they can stealth. Actually this is sounded cool already... Pikmin 4 is taking too long to come out.

 

[Opossum]

Mizzo should be playable.

No joke, I've been toying with the idea of a playable Mizzo since like 2009 lol. It's just baffling to me that it was only in that single room in the entire SSE.

 

[PLATINUM7]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of
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Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

That thing's not even used as an enemy.

 

[perfectchaos83]

It wouldn't really affect his chances even if it wasn't a Ubisoft game.

What developers do with their characters has no bearing on who Sakurai wants in, lol.

Contracts can prevent that kind of thing. It's not uncommon for a company licensing a character to specifically say that said character cannot be in another project that can be seen as competition.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Metal Mario was a boss in the first game and not giant.

This doesn't really matter, honestly.

A reskin of a fighter in what's essentially a glorified 1v1 isn't what most would call a "boss". Even then, SSE had these moments too, and they were literally for important characters you could play as.

Those types of "boss fights" have never been with a completely new character, and if they were, you could always unlock them. Yes, we can say Skull Kid could be an exception, but as of now, we have absolutely zero basis to even consider this idea a plausible reality, especually when the bosses we have seen seem almost COMPLETELY akin to the grandiose boss fights of SSE or Giga Bowser/The Hands.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Sakurai putting Skull Kid in as a boss would be a repeat of Ridley all over again. I thought we were far enough into the manga where he underwent character development to avoid this.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Don't think this was mentioned yet, Rayman was announced for Brawlhalla a few hours ago. Do you think this disconfirms him for Smash?
https://twitter.com/Brawlhalla/status/1036401501655244800

Brawlhalla is owned by Ubisoft, so this doesn't decrease his chances at all.

 

[Enchess]

Contracts can prevent that kind of thing. It's not uncommon for a company licensing a character to specifically say that said character cannot be in another project that can be seen as competition.

Contracts can be brutal. Although with Ubisoft coming from the place of power, I'm not sure they'd let themselves be limited like that.

 

[MrRoidley]

oh wait Ubisoft publishes Brawlhalla lol. Makes lots of sense, Rayman is their most popular character for Smash, so why not take advantage and put him in their own brawler?
even if in the event that Nintendo brings exclusivity contracts for playable third-party guests, I highly doubt they could restrict Ubisoft of using Rayman in their own brawlers. So yeah Rayman could still be happening

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

If they do another Adventure mode, I hope they use actual Nintendo enemies instead of
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Whatever the heck THIS thing is...

My theory about that thing, due to his being on Meta Knight's ship, was always that it was one of Kirby/Meta Knight's race that was experimented on (not necessarily by Meta Knight)

 

[Opossum]

For real though, Poppants were the best original SSE enemies by far. Lovely little semi-robotic Delibird sheep. I'm glad they were some of the only SSE enemies brought back for Smash Run.

 

[P.Kat]

*sighs dejectedly* Until we get SOMETHING sonic, I'm just going ot be crying in the corner as newcomer after newcomer is announced, and people keep getting their biggest hopes, all except sonic fans. *cries*

Cheer up! the Sonic series is popular, and Shadow is pretty much a lock in the base roster echo or no echo. At least your favorite character doesn't come from an obscure series that no one gives the time of day too. It could be much worse for you character wise so again cheer up!

Bruh where have you been?

crush 40 version sucks *** come at me

Oh! I'm coming at you... to give you a fist bump cause you are absolutely right Hopefully they put the Magna-Fi version of 'All Hail Shadow ' in Smash.

 

[Noipoi]

Sakurai putting Skull Kid in as a boss would be a repeat of Ridley all over again. I thought we were far enough into the manga where he underwent character development to avoid this.

What chapter of the Smash Bros Manga are we on again?
I just got done with the chapter where Kirby ate Samus' Mother's ashes.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Contracts can be brutal. Although with Ubisoft coming from the place of power, I'm not sure they'd let themselves be limited like that.

To be fair, Nintendo has all the power. Not Ubisoft.