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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Michael the Spikester

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I'm sure Waluigi's popularity is almost nonexistent in Japan and that's why he hasn't been getting any attention.

After the backlash from his AT role in Ultimate I'm pretty sure Sakurai will try and include him in the next game. The same thing happened with Ridley.
He's not happening ever. Waluigi has no importance which again Sakurai says is one of the only ways of making the cut. At least with Ridley. He's Samus' arch-nemesis. Waluigi was only created to be Wario's partner in spin-off sports games. Dude doesn't even appear in WarioWare for crying out loud and after the harassment and death threats those so called fans give Sakurai who is pouring his heart out into this game. They don't deserve Waluigi which should be their punishment.

Simply put Waluigi has no place in Smash. He should stay as an Assist Trophy as he is and I actually wouldn't even be surprised due to these so called "fans" that he completely removes Waluigi from this game.
 
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cuz he clearly had a source that told him about the august direct and he might have seen snippets of it. that and everyone expecting all the newcomers to be ballot based is just asking to be disappointed.
Except he doesn't seem to have gotten the August Direct right at all?
 

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He's not happening ever. Waluigi has no importance which again Sakurai says is one of the only ways of making the cut. At least with Ridley. He's Samus' arch-nemesis. Waluigi was only created to be Wario's partner in spin-off sports games. Dude doesn't even appear in WarioWare for crying out loud and after the harassment and death threats those so called fans give Sakurai who is pouring his heart out into this game. They don't deserve Waluigi which should be their punishment.
It was literally two people on Twitter.
 
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after the harassment and death threats those so called fans give Sakurai who is pouring his heart out into this game. They don't deserve Waluigi which should be their punishment.
Didn't something similar happen with other highly requested characters who are in the game now?
 

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Now I want a Rollercoaster Tycoon stage. It would be like Super Mario Maker, except it would make a randomly generated death park.
This made me think of Mr. Bones' Wild Ride
 
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He's not happening ever. Waluigi has no importance which again Sakurai says is one of the only ways of making the cut. At least with Ridley. He's Samus' arch-nemesis. Waluigi was only created to be Wario's partner in spin-off sports games. Dude doesn't even appear in WarioWare for crying out loud and after the harassment and death threats those so called fans give Sakurai who is pouring his heart out into this game. They don't deserve Waluigi which should be their punishment.

Simply put Waluigi has no place in Smash. He should stay as an Assist Trophy as he is and I actually wouldn't even be surprised due to these so called "fans" that he completely removes Waluigi from this game.
Those so-called "fans" consist of one Twitter ****poster and another dude in the back supporting him.

If you think the entire Waluigi fanbase shares these same rabid intentions... you're apart of the problem.
 

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Man, where have I heard that before?
Again one is the arch-nemesis of said protagonist (Samus) the other is a partner created for Wario in spin-off sports games who alone doesn't even appear in the WarioWare games. Do the math.

Waluigi has no importance hence his position as the Assist Trophy he is.
 
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Off topic question: If there was a crossover fighting game a la Smash Bros but with the most iconic cartoon characters of all time, which ones would be must haves?

I can only think of Spongebob, Scooby-Doo, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny.
 
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Well you might be right. I haven’t played the game in 10 years so my memory is a bit foggy.
A great game I'll still remember. Basically, General Scales released the Krazoa Spirit and died, immediately after the Sharpclaws (the Dinosaur mooks that Fox fights in the game) celebrates his death, and (later after the Andross fight) praises Fox, and cheers for him, as they are now free from Scales' tyranny. I guess Scales somehow took the spirit by force, which the spirit made clear afterwards it didn't like that, cause although Krazoa Spirits are painful to release, it never killed Fox or Krystal.
 

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I don't really understand how anyone can honestly think Waluigi's situation is the same as Ridley's...

Ridley is incredibly relevant to the series he is from, and Waluigi isnt. We've never gotten a character so irrelevant within their series before other than arguably some Pokemon.

I'm not gonna insult everyone who wants him or say it's never happening, but it's really dishonest to act like Ridley means anything can happen.
 
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Off topic question: If there was a crossover fighting game a la Smash Bros but with the most iconic cartoon character of all time, which ones would be must haves?

I can only think of Spongebob, Scooby-Doo, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny.
Roger Rabbit would be essential. I'd also put in Donald Duck, Daffy Duck, Tom, Jerry, Popeye, and Goofy for sure.

My bias says Star Butterfly, but putting her on the level of any of these characters is an absolute joke.
 

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Off topic question: If there was a crossover fighting game a la Smash Bros but with the most iconic cartoon character of all time, which ones would be must haves?

I can only think of Spongebob, Scooby-Doo, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny.
Mickey Mouse, at least two Marvel/DC superheroes, Goku, Bugs Bunny, Winnie-the-Pooh, and some form of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic representation.
 

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I don't really understand how anyone can honestly think Waluigi's situation is the same as Ridley's...

Ridley is incredibly relevant to the series he is from, and Waluigi isnt. We've never gotten a character so irrelevant within their series before other than arguably some Pokemon.

I'm not gonna insult everyone who wants him or say it's never happening, but it's really dishonest to act like Ridley means anything can happen.
This.

This is what I have been saying. Ridley and Waluigi are not even comparable. It alone shows it when Waluigi doesn't even star in WarioWare.

Not trying to crush people's dreams. I'm just stating facts.
 
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Off topic question: If there was a crossover fighting game a la Smash Bros but with the most iconic cartoon character of all time, which ones would be must haves?

I can only think of Spongebob, Scooby-Doo, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny.
Aang, Daffy, Garfield, Zim, Gurr, Ahhh! Real Monsters. Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Finn, Jake, Gumball, Ren, Stimpy, Cow, Chicken, Powerpuff Girls, Mojo Jojo....this list would be pretty big.
 

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Waluigi has no importance hence his position as the Assist Trophy he is.
“Mac can’t be playable; he only punches. That’s why he’s an AT!”

Know how much I heard that?

People can make up all the excuses they want. Why Little Mac is impossible, or Ridley, or K. Rool, or an Animal Crossing character.

But at the end of the day, the only actual thing that matters is if it’s a Nintendo character people like. And clearly, people like Waluigi.

He is a definite possibility for the future. As much as any other character that just hasn’t made the cut yet.
 

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Look. I loved Eternal Darkness. It was a ****ing fantastic game.

But lol it deserving priority over Resident Evil. One of the big TWO in survival horror?

Lol. Nah.

I'll give you Fatal Frame though. Fatal Frame actually has sustained a following and important in the scheme of survival horror gaming.
 

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“Mac can’t be playable; he only punches. That’s why he’s an AT!”

Know how much I heard that?

People can make up all the excuses they want. Why Little Mac is impossible, or Ridley, or K. Rool, or an Animal Crossing character.

But at the end of the day, the only actual thing that matters is if it’s a Nintendo character people like. And clearly, people like Waluigi.

He is a definite possibility for the future. As much as any other character that just hasn’t made the cut yet.
Except Little Mac is the main character of his series.
 
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Roger Rabbit would be essential. I'd also put in Donald Duck, Daffy Duck, Tom, Jerry, Popeye, and Goofy for sure.

My bias says Star Butterfly, but putting her on the level of any of these characters is an absolute joke.
Can't believe i forgot about Popeye.
Also, Star Butterfly is never happening, she's too new.
 

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“Mac can’t be playable; he only punches. That’s why he’s an AT!”

Know how much I heard that?

People can make up all the excuses they want. Why Little Mac is impossible, or Ridley, or K. Rool, or an Animal Crossing character.

But at the end of the day, the only actual thing that matters is if it’s a Nintendo character people like. And clearly, people like Waluigi.

He is a definite possibility for the future. As much as any other character that just hasn’t made the cut yet.
And that’s pretty much all anyone needs to know.
 

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I don't really understand how anyone can honestly think Waluigi's situation is the same as Ridley's...

Ridley is incredibly relevant to the series he is from, and Waluigi isnt. We've never gotten a character so irrelevant within their series before other than arguably some Pokemon.

I'm not gonna insult everyone who wants him or say it's never happening, but it's really dishonest to act like Ridley means anything can happen.
I think Geno could open the floodgates for Waluigi and similar No Hopers. Geno getting in says "if you're loud enough, you're in, no matter how important."
 

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“Mac can’t be playable; he only punches. That’s why he’s an AT!”

Know how much I heard that?

People can make up all the excuses they want. Why Little Mac is impossible, or Ridley, or K. Rool, or an Animal Crossing character.

But at the end of the day, the only actual thing that matters is if it’s a Nintendo character people like. And clearly, people like Waluigi.

He is a definite possibility for the future. As much as any other character that just hasn’t made the cut yet.
I think he's possible, but "no moveset potential" has precedent for being ignored all the way back in 64 with Falcon. Waluigi would be setting a new precedent.
 

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I don't really understand how anyone can honestly think Waluigi's situation is the same as Ridley's...

Ridley is incredibly relevant to the series he is from, and Waluigi isnt. We've never gotten a character so irrelevant within their series before other than arguably some Pokemon.

I'm not gonna insult everyone who wants him or say it's never happening, but it's really dishonest to act like Ridley means anything can happen.
I agree.

Waluigi IMO shouldn't be seen as this big icon. People shouldn't clamor to say "he deserves his own game!!!" or whatnot, because his gimmick is that he doesn't have a game. His character revolves around these spinoff games, but has so much character shown about him from those spinoffs alone because that's all he has. He's more of the spinoff rep than Daisy IMO.

t. biggest waluigi fanboy
 
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Off topic question: If there was a crossover fighting game a la Smash Bros but with the most iconic cartoon characters of all time, which ones would be must haves?

I can only think of Spongebob, Scooby-Doo, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny.
Homer Simpsons.
 

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Aang, Daffy, Garfield, Zim, Gurr, Ahhh! Real Monsters. Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Finn, Jake, Gumball, Ren, Stimpy, Cow, Chicken, Powerpuff Girls, Mojo Jojo....this list would be pretty big.
Mickey Mouse, at least two Marvel/DC superheroes, Goku, Bugs Bunny, Winnie-the-Pooh, and some form of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic representation.
I'm surprised neither of you named him
 

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Again Sakurai stated for characters to make the cut they gotta have importance which Waluigi doesn't. At least with Daisy she's starred in Super Mario Land and Super Mario Run which are considered main. Waluigi's only appeared in spin-off sports games created only to be Wario's partner. That's why he can't get in and is an Assist Trophy.
 

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I think he's possible, but "no moveset potential" has precedent for being ignored all the way back in 64 with Falcon. Waluigi would be setting a new precedent.
Fighting Style: Always wielding a tennis racket, using tennis moves and long kicks.



Throws:

>Waluigi serves the opponent like a tennis ball

<Tennis backhand

^Upwards kick

V Axe kick



Specials:

B- Service: Waluigi serves a tennis ball projectile. Once it hits someone, it bounces back to Waluigi. Waluigi can bounce it indefinitely as long as he hits it again with any racket attack. Only one ball may be present at a time.



B> Whirluigi: Waluigi rapidly spins with his racket. Pushes opponents and reflects projectiles. In the air, allows Waluigi to move horizontally.



B^ Waluigi Copter: Waluigi does a handstand and combo kick that traps opponents, like the Mario Tornado. In the air, it allows Waluigi to fly freely during the duration of the move.



BV Stomp: Waluigi pummels the ground rapidly with his leg, burying opponents.
 
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Off topic question: If there was a crossover fighting game a la Smash Bros but with the most iconic cartoon characters of all time, which ones would be must haves?

I can only think of Spongebob, Scooby-Doo, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny.
I'd put he-man, optiumus prime, and pinke pie (the favorite of the main 6, yes I am picking her out of bias why do you ask?) As well as classic voltron with a VLD echo
 
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Oh god we’re on waluigi again. Let him rest in peace please, yall can start this again next smash game
 

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I think Geno could open the floodgates for Waluigi and similar No Hopers. Geno getting in says "if you're loud enough, you're in, no matter how important."
Geno is imo the most comparable situation to Waluigi. They both are minor characters in their respective franchise and can only get in through fan demand. I don't believe either has any chance period without specific outcry from Smash fanbase. Villager on the otherhand would due to importance of Animal Crossing series to Nintendo and Villager's role within.
 
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