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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Guys, Batman is iconic across all forms of media, he has good movies, good comics, good animated series and good video games. WHY ISN'T HE IN SMASH YET?!
My sources tell me Batman and Goku will be the final characters revealed for Ultimate DLC. They just completed negotiations with all associated third parties. Supposedly, there's an "East vs. West" theme going on.
 
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You're basically describing someone who's never been on the internet or gone clothes shopping if you haven't seen Majora's Mask or Skull Kid wearing him at least once.
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The funniest part is the fact that you're implying everybody shops at Hot Topic.
 
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Can we get a gif of King K. Rool laughing before firing the Blast-O-Matic? I don't want the firing sequence after, just the laughing shot so we can all laugh together at all the fake leaks and elitists trying (and failing) to crush the hopes and dreams of others.
 
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Luigi The President

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Who wants to talk about literally anything else right now?
Alright how TF you gonna come into this thread, be rude as hell to numerous users if you're not just ignoring them, cuss a user out and then act like we're in the wrong for trying to calm you down?

You need to take a step back. Not sorry if I'm being rude this time around.
 

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I don't like Rex. I don't like Xenoblade 2 either, not like I think it's a bad game, but there's just a lot wrong. Where the world itself and the gameplay is good, it sucks in most voices and story kinda like F-Zero GX, and Rex in English is kinda a part of that since you're with him most of the adventure. also fyi just because i like/dislike a character doesn't mean i think they're probable or improbable, i just like or don't like them for whatever reason.
 
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Nah, that's pretty much just a good majority of the US. UK I don't remember exactly, He's very popular in Japan.

He's honestly one of my favorite Zelda characters.
At the very least, Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland was released in Europe. He's probably not as hated there as he is in the US if they decided to release the game there.
 
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So since it's kinda-sorta relevant, about a month ago I had my parents attempt to name the Smash characters pre-Smash Direct. Figured I'd post it here.


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It went about as well as you would expect. :p

Key:
[Character Name] = [Mom's Name for Character] | [Dad's Name for Character]



Mario = Mario | Mario
Donkey Kong = "Diddy Kong...wait, Donkey Kong" | Donkey Kong
Link = Marth | Swordfighter
Samus = Centaur | Robot Man
Kirby = "Balloon Nose...wait, Jigglypuff" | Marshmallow
Fox = Bandicoot | Foxy
Pikachu = Pikachu | Pikachu
Luigi = Luigi | Luigi
Ness = Little Boy | Baseball Boy
Jigglypuff = Jigglypuff | ...Ken (He couldn't remember it's name, but knew it was "the one that sings")
Captain Falcon = Captain America | Wonder Man
Bowser = Diddy Kong | Shell Man
Peach = Lucinda | Princess
Ice Climbers = ****** Kids | Twins
Zelda = Princess | Lucy
Sheik = Karate Hand | Karate Man
Marth = Knight | Prince
Falco = Eagle | Bird Man
Mewtwo = Mewtwo | "I know it, he's from Pokémon...the bad guy...(sigh) Grubbo." (He was upset he forgot Mewtwo's name lol)
Pichu = Pikachu | "Pikachu's brother, what was it...Pikapoo?"
Young Link = Robin Elf | Spock
Roy = Knight Sword | Guardian
Mr. Game & Watch = Mr. Number One | Mr. Magoo
Dr. Mario = Dr. Mario | Doc
Ganondorf = Demon | Big Guy
Meta Knight = Lead Head | Marty the Martian
Wario = Butt Chin | Slug
Zero Suit Samus = Big Shoes | Sexy (wow dad lol)
Pit = Angel Wings | Angel
Snake = Rambo | Tough Guy
Ike = Red Knight | Gallahad
Diddy Kong = Monkey Kong | Monkey Man
Lucas = Blond Neutron | Snake Boy
Pokémon Trainer = Brock and Friends | Ash and Charizard (RIP Squirtle and Ivysaur)
King Dedede = King Dedede | Penguin
Wolf = One-Eyed 'Coot | Wolfy
Olimar = Olivar | Sleepy
R.O.B. = I.M. Robot | Camera Man
Toon Link = Baby Robin | Baby Boy
Lucario = Black and Blue Dancing Dog | Sneaky
Sonic = SEGA | Sonic
Villager = Pyramid Nose | Nutsy
Mega Man = Baby Blue Machine | Robot Boy
Wii Fit Trainer = Thin Pale Woman | A Mom
Rosalina and Luma = Princess Star | Witch
Little Mac = Little Mac | Rocky
Greninja = Big Tongue | Beak
Mii Fighters = Teenage Warriors | The Three Stooges
Palutena = Green Queen | Queen
Pac-Man = Pac-Man | Pac-Man
Lucina = Grey Goose (Lucina confirmed to drink away her problems)| "Looks like that guy from earlier...it's a girl? She-Man, idk"
Robin = British Lightning | Z.Z.
Shulk = Broken Clothespin Warrior | Paperclip Man
Bowser Jr. = Diddy in a Cup | Hippo Man
Dark Pit = Fallen Angel | Wing Boy
Duck Hunt = Duck Bow | Dog and a Duck
Ryu = Ralph Macchio All Grown Up | Mr. Fuji
Cloud = Spike Head | Razor Blade Man
Corrin = The Flaming Pinkster | Fire Sword
Bayonetta = "[Disappointed Head Shake] ...Cool Boots" | Disco Lady
Inkling = Angry Geek Girl | Squeaky
Daisy = Mama Princess | ("Who the **** is this?") Ballerina
Ridley = Insector | Alien (He thought it was a Xenomorph, fittingly)

* For anyone wondering, my mom knew Marth, Little Mac, Dedede, and kinda-sorta Olimar due to asking me what amiibo I wanted as a gift a few years back. For whatever reason she remembered those names.
tl;dr: "Mom names everyone Diddy Kong except for Diddy Kong, Dad makes half the cast Robot Masters and complains that all the Fire Emblem characters look alike, and no one knows what the Monado is."
So, Mario is Nintendo, Mega Man is Capcom and Pac-Man is Namco? I'll keep that in mind. :troll:
 

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I hope the memes that come about for fighter 69 aren't too unbearable.

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Unbearable.
 
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Sometimes, the Nintendo USA fanbase just hates fun.
Which is why it seems we hate Tingle.

He really is a pretty cool little dude. Always funny. Never gotten the hate.
 

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Yeah. And, two Zelda characters have seniority over Skull Kid. They are Impa (the most recurring character outside of the Triforce Holders) and Tingle (who was popular enough to get his own spinoff games).
The issue with Impa is that she lacks a consistent appearance, only appearing as a possible fighter in 2 games, in OoT as a bystander and in SS as a bystander who at most uses a magical shield once.

Not even going to mention how Tingle is a disgusting joke character that I doubt either the community at large nor Nintendo want in as a fighter.
 

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All this Skull Kid talk makes me sad no one thinks Vaati has a chance.... He's the only recurring main character not in yet... And Minish Cap was better than Majora's Mask anyway (I'm standing firm on this one. I love both)
 

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The funniest part is the fact that you're implying everybody shops at Hot Topic.
Or gamestop, or been on a Nintendo site or played Smash 4, or owned a 3DS or cared about Zelda or Hyrule Warriors..come on, man. Lol. Majora’s mask is in a lot of media. I know it isn’t the big hit some think it is, but hot topic is not nearly the only place to know about the design.
 

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I think in the UK people were neutral on Tingle until Wind Waker where he headlines the filler.
 

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Oh yeah, that was me.
It was mainly hyperbole, as I followed up with "selling a bajillion copies."

Whoops.

As for SMT, come on, even if the main franchise is niche, its demons are iconic no matter where you go in the world. Not to mention it's the mother of RPGs, coming out just one year after DQ1. Now that's some history.

As for those plushies, they're sold by Atlus here:
https://shop.atlus.com/en/product/458689/jack-frost-plush
Thank you for the link.

I totally agree with you by the way. In the lens of historic significance, SMT certainly has that, which is a point in its favor. Ultimately I believe it comes down to the Cloud vs. Terra argument. We have a precedent for Sakurai's decision between Nintendo significance and straight up popularity, but it wouldn't surprise me if Sakurai went for a compromise of sorts and added Jack Frost or (even better) the Jack Bros.

I personally believe the best compromise would be a wildcard user from Persona using a variety of different demons from the SMT series, such as Jack Frost, Pumpkin Jack, their signature Persona, etc. Each one could represent one of the different Arcana (social links, confidants, whatever) as well, similar to how Yu Narukami had a Persona to tie-in with all of the Arcana in Persona 4 the Animation.
 
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I gotta say, If I had any idea ultimate would come out so soon after 4 and that sakurai would really use ballot choices as characters, I might have voted differently and definitely tried to vote more lol
 

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It's kinda funny that Tingle could probably end up being the Majora's Mask rep instead of Skull Kid because he originates from that game.
 

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Who do you think is gonna be the 69th fighter
Ideally, Banjo & Kazooie. Realistically? I think we might get a big first party character next (Bandana Waddle Dee/Skull Kid) in a Nintendo Direct and after that perhaps a smaller but heavily requested character like Isaac/Felix, in a standalone announcement.
 

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Maybe I should have said Skull Kid is one of the most iconic video game antagonists among people who know **** about video games. Like video games that anyone knows about, like THE LEGEND OF ZELDA. But, of course the keyboard warriors want precision.

But, even then, people know him or the mask from memes, or any local or online clothes shop, or that hot girl they knew in high school.

I mean this is a fighting game about Nintendo characters for crying out loud. Get all "on the contrary" over a little (and I mean little) hyperbole.
 
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