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Sakurai once stated that it symbolizes how Lucina is younger and less experienced than Marth, so she can't focus her energy on the tip of the sword.
Lol, none at all. You don't 'space' in FE and the attack animations characters have don't end up tipping enemies except for maybe some unique class vs class situations. Pretty sure the tipper and reverse tipper Marth and Roy became known for in Melee was just to make them standout as more than just some generic sword swinger. Lucina was just a case of 'if we make one consistent hitbox rather than 2 different ones on every move, she'll be a different character' since that's a quick and easy thing to do to add a character.
*sigh*
Well for one thing, it's common knowledge that Smash 4's clones are where they are because of spare development time. This is the reason they were both give their differences and were given their separate roster spots. This is also the reason why Alph was regulated to an alternate costume rather than a full clone that uses Rock Pikmin - they didn't have the time to do so. As far as I'm aware Sakurai never directly said that Dr. Mario, Lucina, and Dark Pit would have remained alts if the extra development time was not present, though given what he said plus Alph's situation, we can make the pretty safe assumption that it would be the case.
Oh boyyyyyyy
I can't think of a good reason why Lucina should be changed into a semi-clone in Smash, especially if you're using the "she'd take no effort to make" argument. Lucina's whole shtick is supposed to be a beginner character for people interested in maining Marth. Changing her up to the point to where she's a semi-clone makes it seem like you're forcing change just for the sake of having a character who's unique enough to slide by as an acceptable paid DLC character.
My argument on why Lucina could be cut has never focused on her "stealing" development time from other characters. Clone characters are rather quick to make, so I doubt Lucina actually robbed anyone else from being in Smash (except for maybe another full clone Sakurai may have also been considering at the time). If she does end up getting cut in Smash 5, I think it'll be more because the other FE characters have more unique movesets, possibly making her seem less of a priority in comparison.
I would once again ask for a quote FROM HIM saying that, but I think I've given more than enough chances for you to do that.
Does everything need to be spelled out for you in order for it to be obvious? Does it have to be straight from Sakurai's mouth?
It's called "evidence". You make claims and then you support them with evidence. You don't just simply declare claims logical and then punctuate them with an emoticon. And that's funny being a 21 year-old in college told that by a 17 year-old boy.Does everything need to be spelled out for you in order for it to be obvious? Does it have to be straight from Sakurai's mouth?
With that mentality I'd be surprised if you graduated from school.
I presented evidence. It wasn't explicit, but it was still evidence nonetheless. You just refuse to accept anything that wasn't explicitly stated by Sakurai as evidence.
*raises a hand*
She would be decloned for the same reason why Falco, Ganondorf and Toon Link were decloned going from Melee to Brawl (and Roy in Smash 4): to have a more defined character. Lucina was considered as a Marth costume mostly because that was what she was back in 2012. She even called herself Marth for a good portion of Awekening. But now she has enoght of a character to be different if we consider the different moves that she showed in games such as Project x Zone 2, Fire Emblem Warriors and so on. And they can still keep the mindset of "the beginner's character" since all the other Fire Emblem characters have some particular attribute that make them less begginer friendly (Marth and Roy different hitboxes in different points of the sword, Ike being more bulky than he looks, Robin's limited use items and Corrin's dragon transformation).
Suurrre.
I doubt it. There's just not enough to work with. And why bother, when Roy is already a semi-clone?
Not really. Lucina copies Chrom's fighting style, not Marth's.
I wouldn't use "it never happened" an argument. I'm sure before characters were cut from Brawl, people were like "When has a character from their own series been cut?"
That was because Dr. Mario in Smash 4 was how he was SUPPOSED to be in Melee; for one reason or another he kept the same speed as Mario, and essentially making him obselete.
Sure, but there is a reason why characters get cut: development time.
Devil's advocate: Decloning a character takes development time that would be put to "better" use on a newcomer
Multiple arguments! 1: It was again, done to represent both of Marth's unique weapons! 2: Spin off so it doesn't matter. 3: The Falchion's been reforged throughout the franchise which explains it's different design
Pretty sure everyone in my wishlist does pretty well at that game.
Still, he was reworked, even in his specials. Excluding the obvious ones (pills and tornado), his Super Jump is shorter but hits harder than Mario's. It is a strong single hit against a session of smaller ones, making it quite a good finisher. And also his Cape doesn't stop him mid air, making it useless for recovering.
Well Dr. Mario is quite a different beast from Mario, as I explained, and he didn't take that much development time. And I higly doubt that a newcomer would have been made with the time it took to declone Falco, Ganondorf and Toon Link. It is actually not that different from when they change a character moveset from a game to the next one.
Fair point, but I would not call that a "canon" reason for Marth's tipper (which was what started this debacle: if there was a reason why Marth has the tipper mechanic while Lucina doesn't have it). More like a creative liberty (which Smash is full off).
Again, that was how Sakurai perceived her back in 2012, when she was delegated to an alt which later became a clone. From that we have seen her using different weapons (like bows and lances), using more acrobatich moves in games such as Fire Emblem Warriors and Project x Zone 2, and so on. Sakurai had intended her to be like that just because of develoment time being low for her. They could even use some parts of Chrom's moveset when he was considered for being playable, since she fights using his style.
I think Impa would work as a costume or Lucina-esque clone of Sheik, seeing as that's who taught Sheik to fight like a Sheikah. Don't tell @Diddy Kong I said that.
Hoo boy. You don't know what you've just done.
As far as a canon-based reason why Marth has a tipper mechanic, I think it's more than just a reference to his rapier (though Shield Breaker is a clear rapier reference).
Lucina being an alt of Marth in Smash is a mythology gag. In her game, she is supposed to be emulating the Hero King in appearance. And gameplay wise, every Marth unit is simply a head swap of Lucina's battle model thus giving him the same move animations as her.
Oh, I'm well aware.
Wolf.
Can't vote for the poll but I'd go for Leon of all characters. I mentioned before that I like his design and character, and with him being a sniper, I imagine giving him some chameleon abilities (i.e. camouflage) would be pretty fitting for him.
I know Emily Rogers recently spoke about a Smash port, but do you have the source for LKD's comments?
I'm a derp. I mixed the two up ^^
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Assist Trophy for sure.
All-stars huh
No worries!
