Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I could see him having a DK gallop seeing as how he is a tiger man that's top heavy.

DK's speed might be a good fit actually.

Maybe slower, imo, but yeah, something around DK would be fitting.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Disagree.

Snake and ZSS were robbed.

 

[P.Kat]

Here's a question (One I asked a while ago, but was ignored because I think I asked when the discussion was going a mile a minute and it was swept away in the current of conversation): Do any of you have a specific reaction in mind (say, a video or gif) for when a certain character gets revealed?

Like, you plan to show [x] video if [y] character is revealed.

I have two videos/songs in mind when/if Amaterasu is revealed.

Also for Persona Assist Trophies:
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You bet your *** I’d want it (And actually expect it) to be Aigis.

She is one of the most popular and iconic characters from the series, getting her own spin-off prequel, an expansion where she was in the starring role (She also became a Wild Card weilder herself), and even became a sort of mascot of Persona 3 as of Dancing in Moonlight, it’s without a doubt that she is the Zero/Alucard of the Persona series.

While I don’t think she would be playable since Joker has simply made more of an impact with the release of Persona 5, I feel she is important and unique enough, to have a spot as an Assist Trophy.
also best girl

She looks like a great character to play with, but, I see your Aigis, and raise you a...

Labrys. It would be great if she was either playable, or an Assist Trophy.

 

[osby]

I have two videos/songs in mind when/if Amaterasu is revealed.

She looks like a great character to play with, but, I see your Aigis, and raise you a...

Labrys. It would be great if she was either playable, or an Assist Trophy.

Both are great. My personal favourite is P3 Hero but I'd gladly take toasters over him.

 

[ThatGuyWhoKnowsNothing]

Here's a question (One I asked a while ago, but was ignored because I think I asked when the discussion was going a mile a minute and it was swept away in the current of conversation): Do any of you have a specific reaction in mind (say, a video or gif) for when a certain character gets revealed?

Like, you plan to show [x] video if [y] character is revealed.

I'll put that video of Esam popping off against Ally everywhere if Tails gets revealed

 

[CrowGoesCaw]

Here's a question (One I asked a while ago, but was ignored because I think I asked when the discussion was going a mile a minute and it was swept away in the current of conversation): Do any of you have a specific reaction in mind (say, a video or gif) for when a certain character gets revealed?

Like, you plan to show [x] video if [y] character is revealed.

Oh man, I definitely have one if Ridley ever gets in.

Spoiler: If Ridley ever gets in I'll be all like

 

[Over9000BPM]

Oh man, I definitely have one if Ridley ever gets in.

Spoiler: If Ridley ever gets in I'll be all like

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Mega Slowbro confirmed because Smash fan logic.

 

[Garteam]

Which I already game my opinion on in the Incineroar thread.

There are a lot of good points in this write-up, and I commend you on that. However, the idea of a character with low mobility and a weak combo game that hits like a truck and relies on defensive, bait-and-punish play to be successful has been done before. Bowser and Ganondorf have been using that play style since Melee. The question for Incineroar then becomes, "What bring to the table that Bowser/Ganondorf can't?".

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Snake and ZSS were robbed.

ZSS was never supposed to be thicc anyway.

She's supposed to be athletic, so the Ultimate design is actually more true to the character than her Smash 4 design.

 

[Louisacommie]

Gen 1: gengar
Gen 2: feraligatr
Gen 3: blaziken
Gen 4: empleon
Gen 5: Serperior
Gen 6: sylveon
Gen 7" incernerour

 

[NintenZ]

I have two videos/songs in mind when/if Amaterasu is revealed.

She looks like a great character to play with, but, I see your Aigis, and raise you a...

Labrys. It would be great if she was either playable, or an Assist Trophy.

Labrys is pretty cool, I like her as a character tbh and I think she’s fun to use in the Arena games so her being the Assist would be great.

 

[Over9000BPM]

ZSS was never supposed to be thicc anyway.

She's supposed to be athletic, so the Ultimate design is actually more true to the character than her Smash 4 design.

Meh, I have a hundred canon ZSS pictures where she’s still more thicc than Ultimate. But I’m tired of arguing about this, and it makes people feel uncomfortable so let’s not.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I've had people talk to me about Persona daily since Sunday and not even this hellhole will save me

 

[Metal Shop X]

Who need a thicc girl when you got a THICC CROCODILE?!?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

There are a lot of good points in this write-up, and I commend you on that. However, the idea of a character with low mobility and a weak combo game that hits like a truck and relies on defensive, bait-and-punish play to be successful has been done before. Bowser and Ganondorf have been using that play style since Melee. The question for Incineroar then becomes, "What bring to the table that Bowser/Ganondorf can't?".

A moveset that's generally safe on shields due to having multiple grabs.

"But Bowser and Ganondorf have command grabs too"

Yeah, but their moveset don't rely on it. Especially in Bowser's case since a regular grab is better option than his side B in literally any situation but a KO.

Meh, I have a hundred canon ZSS pictures where she’s still more thicc than Ultimate. But I’m tired of arguing about this, and it makes people feel uncomfortable so let’s not.

Alright, but I'll just drop one last thing;

None of those canon pics have her as thicc as Smash 4.

 

[P.Kat]

I'd actually want to see a character that uses different Stances, not completely different fighters, just different properties in certain moves.
*Cough cough*


Ok, but for real, Oricorio is my favorite of the Gen 7 Mons and it would be perfect to give Smash another Stance fighting style. The basic idea I have for its moveset was Down B as the Nectar(Baile would be the default, order would go Baile-->Pom-Pom-->Pa'u-->Sensu) and Neutral B as Revelation Dance which would change depending on the current form(Fire deals more damage and knockback, Electric is the fastest stuns, Psychic is the slowest and serves as a deflector too and Ghost passes through everything, including walls, and launches the opponent in the opposite direction).

Maybe I should make a thread for them alongside a moveset...

*whistle innocently*

Like a character who can switch between weapons on the fly?

 

[Opossum]

I still stand behind my belief that Celica being a Robin echo would make no sense at all. They share the same weapon types in the most basic sense, but the implementation is completely different.

 

[Pakky]

Who need a thicc girl when you got a THICC CROCODILE?!?

Spoiler: Please c'mon

Hehe.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

A moveset that focuses primarily on grabs would suck as they seem to want to put more emphasis on bosses. What are you gonna do? Grab Dracula by the head and suplex it off?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

A moveset that focuses primarily on grabs would suck as they seem to want to put more emphasis on bosses. What are you gonna do? Grab Dracula by the head and suplex it off?

That sounds awesome, actually.

 

[KMDP]

ZSS was never supposed to be thicc anyway.

Well, that's a straight up lie.

<- Samus in Metroid 1.
She was always meant to be a curvaceous (but also athletic) woman.

 

[Opossum]

In addition to the generally awkward thirst that's apparent whenever the subject's brought up, I'm absolutely convinced most people posting here don't know what "thicc" actually means if you're using it to describe characters with toned and athletic builds...

 

[Over9000BPM]

A moveset that's generally safe on shields due to having multiple grabs.

"But Bowser and Ganondorf have command grabs too"

Yeah, but their moveset don't rely on it. Especially in Bowser's case since a regular grab is better option than his side B in literally any situation but a KO.


Alright, but I'll just drop one last thing;

None of those canon pics have her as thicc as Smash 4.

Can’t argue with that. I guess I just preferred the previous non-canon design to the new non-canon design.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Well, that's a straight up lie.

<- Samus in Metroid 1.
She was always meant to be a curvaceous (but also athletic) woman.

And I, for one, think Ultimate struck a good balance.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

In addition to the generally awkward thirst that's apparent whenever the subject's brought up, I'm absolutely convinced most people posting here don't know what "thicc" actually means if you're using it to describe characters with toned and athletic builds...

Opossum: "Please, stop calling everything thicc"
This thread: *points at stick figure* "Thicc"

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Opossum: "Please, stop calling everything thicc"
This thread: *points at stick figure* "Thicc"

That is one thicc sticc :V

 

[Pakky]

A moveset that focuses primarily on grabs would suck as they seem to want to put more emphasis on bosses. What are you gonna do? Grab Dracula by the head and suplex it off?

You could just do contact damage.

 

[Over9000BPM]

In addition to the generally awkward thirst that's apparent whenever the subject's brought up, I'm absolutely convinced most people posting here don't know what "thicc" actually means if you're using it to describe characters with toned and athletic builds...

I’m just using the word that keeps coming up when I complain about the topic. I’m not down with the lingo. Cultural appropriation sue me.

 

[MalcolmBelmont]

If there is an Atlus rep which i bet is very possible for DLC - it's going to be Jack Frost

 

[Metal Shop X]

Spoiler: Please c'mon

Hehe.

Sadly, not trying to be a **** here, but I think Chun-Li would get as a assist trophy at best.

still, seeing Chun-li In Ultimate would be nice, or just have a AT for the SF franchise, since we don't have one as of now.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Sadly, not trying to be a **** here, but I think Chun-Li would get as a assist trophy at best.

still, seeing Chun-li In Ultimate would be nice, or just have a AT for the SF franchise, since we don't have one as of now.

Then E3 2019 reveals Bison as a newcomer "Making it in Smash as a playable character can seem impossible. But for me? It was a Tuesday"

 

[Deleted member]

I can get tho why TP fans may be sad. They went from having 4 designs from it (3 if you not count Sheik) to zero in Ultimate

It's been for 2 Smash generations in a row though, and it may have been time to move on.
Not to mention TP is among the most boring Zelda besides the Stallord and Zant fights to start with.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Then E3 2019 reveals Bison as a newcomer "Making it in Smash as a playable character can seem impossible. But for me? It was a Tuesday"

Bonus points if they actually reveal it on a Tuesday.

 

[Over9000BPM]

And I, for one, think Ultimate struck a good balance.

Nah, it’s too far in the athletic direction for me. Fair play to anyone that does like it but it just looks weird to me. This is why I want an alt for compromise. Like Ike got.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Bonus points if they actually reveal it on a Tuesday.

Nintendo's E3 presentations typically are on Tuesdays which is why I said it

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Nah, it’s too far in the athletic direction for me. Fair play to anyone that does like it but it just looks weird to me. This is why I want an alt for compromise. Like Ike got.

Ike's designs look different enough to afford the alt treatment.

ZSS's designs in Smash are either "muscular build" or "she's got boobs but wears the exact same thing" or the Brawl one which is neither of those things.

 

[Over9000BPM]

Ike's designs look different enough to afford the alt treatment.

ZSS's designs in Smash are either "muscular build" or "she's got boobs but wears the exact same thing" or the Brawl one which is neither of those things.

I don’t know what else I can do or suggest at this point.

 

[MalcolmBelmont]

I am assuming we are going to get a Nintendo Direct some time in September which will likely have a trailler for Smash. Do you think we will get one newcomer and one echo for the next ND?

 

[KMDP]

In addition to the generally awkward thirst that's apparent whenever the subject's brought up

I've seen women and gay men on this thread singing the praises of how attractive they think Richter is, just saying (mostly around when he was revealed).

Sadly, not trying to be a **** here, but I think Chun-Li would get as a assist trophy at best.

still, seeing Chun-li In Ultimate would be nice, or just have a AT for the SF franchise, since we don't have one as of now.

Doesn't the Street Fighter Character Designer deliberately make Chun-Li's thighs bigger and bigger because the Game Director keeps telling him to tone her down or something?

 

[NintenZ]

Maybe the Assist Trophy will be Marie from Persona 4 Golden since we all know Atlus loves her and her terrible Social Link. :^]

(Okay but in all seriousness please don’t be Marie if it were a P4 character and let it be someone like Teddie)