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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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So, heres what i think on this whole good-guy or bad-guy situation.
I think these are all the good guys, :4cloud2::4drmario::4duckhunt::4fox::4myfriends::4lucas::4lucina::4luigi::4mario::4marth::4megaman::4ness::4pacman::4wiifit::4alph::4zelda::4peach::4yoshi::4tlink::4link::4palutena::4pit::4kirby::4falcon::4villager::rosalina::4robinm::4feroy::4sonic::4shulk::younglinkmelee::4gaw:
I think the Antagonists are,:4littlemac::4darkpit::4duckhunt::4falco::4zss::4sheik::4bayonetta::4corrinf::4dk::4diddy::4rob::4ryu::4lucario::4mewtwo::4greninja::4metaknight::snake::4pikachu::4jigglypuff::pichumelee:
and finally, the bad guys, :4bowser::4bowserjr::4ganondorf::4wario::4dedede::wolf:
(Note: I put Sheik as an Antagonist because he was always traveling alone and he occasionally helped link, ntohing like normal Zelda where she helps link almost all the time. And also i put Wario as a Bag Guy because he's mostly seen as a rival towards mario, the main character. I also put Pokemon in Antagonist list because Pokemon can be used for good and bad.
 
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You just reminded me how Skull Kid is still likely. He's always relevant and has a established history. I'm putting Skull Kid up there as a possible Zelda newcomer. Basically, the dev team would have to.
Glad I could help I think

The quest of Skull Kid domination continues!
On another note, heres what i HOPE the final roster is going to look like.
It was confirmed that the next SSB game will have the DLC Added to the vanilla game.
So heres what i think will be the final roster.
Mario Roster:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Wario
Yoshi
Rosalina & Luma
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
Bowser JR.
Geno
Zelda Roster:
Link
Toon Link
Zelda
Toon Zelda + Tetra
Ganondorf
Impa
Sheik
Metroid Roster:
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
(Maybe theres NEW character coming in MP:4 that we dont know)
Pokemon roster:
Pikachu
Lucario
Greninja
Charizard
Blastoise
Ivysaur
Blaziken
Mother Roster:
Ness
Lucas
Claus
Poo
Kumatora
Duster
Star Fox Roster:
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Krystal
Fire Emblem Roster:
Lucina
Robin
Marth
Roy
Chrom
Ike
Tharja
Cordelia
Azura
Returning DLC characters:
Bayonetta
Corrin
Cloud
Ryu
Is this meant to be a complete roster? Because it's kinda disgustinh if it is.

You cut three members of the original twelve
And the amount of franchises not present here is horrible, I'd hope that it's just you listing franchises with new stuff but you list dlc characters just for sake of it.

I understand it's what you want, but I do think the newcomer list is mediocre as well
 

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Glad I could help I think

The quest of Skull Kid domination continues!

Is this meant to be a complete roster? Because it's kinda disgustinh if it is.

You cut three members of the original twelve
And the amount of franchises not present here is horrible, I'd hope that it's just you listing franchises with new stuff but you list dlc characters just for sake of it.

I understand it's what you want, but I do think the newcomer list is mediocre as well
yeah, i misspoke in that post. thinking back on it now i might redo it
 

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I think these are all the good guys, :4cloud2::4drmario::4duckhunt::4fox::4myfriends::4lucas::4lucina::4luigi::4mario::4marth::4megaman::4ness::4pacman::4wiifit::4alph::4zelda::4peach::4yoshi::4tlink::4link::4palutena::4pit::4kirby::4falcon::4villager::rosalina::4robinm::4feroy::4sonic::4shulk::younglinkmelee::4gaw:
I think the Antagonists are,:4littlemac::4darkpit::4duckhunt::4falco::4zss::4sheik::4bayonetta::4corrinf::4dk::4diddy::4rob::4ryu::4lucario::4mewtwo::4greninja::4metaknight::snake::4pikachu::4jigglypuff::pichumelee:
and finally, the bad guys, :4bowser::4bowserjr::4ganondorf::4wario::4dedede::wolf:
(Note: I put Sheik as an Antagonist because he was always traveling alone and he occasionally helped link, ntohing like normal Zelda where she helps link almost all the time. And also i put Wario as a Bag Guy because he's mostly seen as a rival towards mario, the main character. I also put Pokemon in Antagonist list because Pokemon can be used for good and bad.
I don't think you understand what an antagonist is.

Little Mac, Sheik, Falco, Zero Suit Samus, Bayonetta, Corrin, Diddy Kong, Ryu, Snake and the Pokemon have no logical justification for being an antagonist.

The majority of them are protagonists.

They are the main characters of their stories, not an opposing force.
 
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I'm currently on my first playthrough of Golden Sun and boi i'm having a blast with this game. Now i know why people request Isaac so much
 
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I'm currently on my first playthrough of Golden Sun and boi i'm having a blast with this game. Now i know why people request Isaac so much
Golden Sun games are great.

How far are ya?
 

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On what new antagonistic characters could be added here's my candidates

Current

Waluigi
King K. Rool
Black Shadow (Still hoping for Falcon to bring a plus 1)
Metroid Antagonist (Ridley, Stylux, Dark Samus, MP4 baddie)
Galacta Knight
The Masked Man (Can't think of a non-boss Pokey moveset)
Black Knight (think he's the most iconic FE antagonist at this point)
King Hippo/Bald Bull (KH is most iconic in the West, Bald Bull is most reoccurring opponent)
Medusa/Hades

New

Dr Coyle from ARMS
Octoling from Splatoon (Stretching a bit there)

3rd Party

Tekken's Heiatchi (Namco FG main characters are messed up)
Soul Calibur's Nightmare (Especially since SC6 is going back to Siegfried Nightmare)
 

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Golden Sun games are great.

How far are ya?
I'm past the part of the lightning house close to the snowy town with sick people on it. I'm currently inside Lunpa village and i think i have to sneak in the castle somehow. Trying to figure it out :p
 
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I'm currently on my first playthrough of Golden Sun and boi i'm having a blast with this game. Now i know why people request Isaac so much
You having fun? I heard they are pretty good as well. Issac would be a pretty good option in Smash for Switch.

You know, Issac would be a good idea for Smash. Has a large fan-base supporting his idea, good move-set potential, and is related to Nintendo. Issac has been wanted in a Smash Brothers game since Brawl, and he actually was an assist trophy role in Brawl. Hopefully Issac makes an appearance at as a fighter.
 

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You having fun? I heard they are pretty good as well. Issac would be a pretty good option in Smash for Switch.

You know, Issac would be a good idea for Smash. Has a large fan-base supporting his idea, good move-set potential, and is related to Nintendo. Issac has been wanted in a Smash Brothers game since Brawl, and he actually was an assist trophy role in Brawl. Hopefully Issac makes an appearance at as a fighter.
Maybe he could become my second most wanted newcomer once i finish the game. Who knows?

Considering how things are so far, it's very likely i'll end up visiting the later games in the series as well, eventually.
 
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New antagonists?

Well, Incineroar would fit that mold for being a Dark type Heel....
....and it did serve as an antagonist in the 20th movie.... :p
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
 

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On what new antagonistic characters could be added here's my candidates

Current

Waluigi
King K. Rool
Black Shadow (Still hoping for Falcon to bring a plus 1)
Metroid Antagonist (Ridley, Stylux, Dark Samus, MP4 baddie)
Galacta Knight
The Masked Man (Can't think of a non-boss Pokey moveset)
Black Knight (think he's the most iconic FE antagonist at this point)
King Hippo/Bald Bull (KH is most iconic in the West, Bald Bull is most reoccurring opponent)
Medusa/Hades

New

Dr Coyle from ARMS
Octoling from Splatoon (Stretching a bit there)

3rd Party

Tekken's Heiatchi (Namco FG main characters are messed up)
Soul Calibur's Nightmare (Especially since SC6 is going back to Siegfried Nightmare)
I want Waluigi's pose to be the Melee trophy. I want an amiibo of that FOR SURE.
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash Bros. Brouhaha.
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash Bros. Kerfuffle, purely because Kerfuffle is a hilarious-sounding word.
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash Bros. Fisticuffs.

Seriously though, Super Smash Bros. Conflict
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash Bros. Explosion
 
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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash Bros. Royale
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash bros, BeatDown
 

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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Super Smash Bros. Fisticuffs

EDIT: ****! SOMEONE ELSE WROTE THAT!
 
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Super Smash Bros. Bayo

Edit: Is my picture below my profile showing? I inserted the card but it showed up as an x. I'm confuzzled.
 
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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
Not gonna lie, I actually think just "Super Smash Bros. Switch" has a pretty nice ring to it.

Other than that, I'd go for "Super Smash Bros. Clash".
 
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So here's something I haven't seen being talked about much:

If Smash 5 is to have a subtitle similar to what Melee and Brawl have, rather than just being Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch (or whatever), what would you pick?
I was going to say Super Smash Bros. Fracas, but after looking at the possible synonyms for the words "melee" and "brawl", I have only one answer that beats out all answers.


Super Smash Bros. Donnybrook.


EDIT:
Wait.....I found one even better.

Super Smash Bros. Rhubarb.
 
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Super Smash Bros. 100 (with 100 characters)

I'd make a 100 character roster for fun, but last time I did that, I got a bunch of **** for "You didn't add a character for this series and that series and every series has to have a new character!"
 
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Super Smash Bros. 100 (with 100 characters)

I'd make a 100 character roster for fun, but last time I did that, I got a bunch of **** for "You didn't add a character for this series and that series and every series has to have a new character!"
That sounds fun, but 100 Costumes for each character is much more cooler
 

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Oof, i keep getting more costume ideas. Ima just spill out more, don't mind me :)
Heres some costume ideas for SSB4, and maybe future ideas for costumes in SSB5.
Note: these are costumes i WANT, not the official costumes.

-:4tlink: Outset Island Pajama's
-:4tlink: Toon version of BOTW link
-:4link: Skyward Sword Pajama's
-:4link: Champions Tunic
-:rosalina: Mario Kart Biker gear
-:rosalina: Mario tennis Dress
-:4zss:Green Haired Costume (from special ending you get)
-:4zss: Young Samus
-:4zelda: Champion's Dress/Tunic from BOTW
-:4zelda: Skyward Sword Dress
-:4robinf: Tharja Themed Colors
-:4robinm: Chrom Themed Colors
-:4fox: Wolf Costume (if Wolf isn't in the new SSB5 that is)
-:4fox: Peppy Themed Colors
-:4luigi: Mr. L
-:4luigi: Cat-bell Outfit
-:4sheik: BOTW Sheik (Stealth Gear + his mask)
-:4sheik: Hyrule Warriors
-:4lucas: Masked Man Outfit (if he isn't already a character in SSB5)
-:4lucas: Kumatora Themed Colors
-:4bayonetta: Actual Jaune Outfit (long hair and all, and if she isn't already a character in SSB5)
-:4bayonetta2: Original Jaune
-:4mario: Wedding Tuxedo
-:4mario: Cat-Bell Gear
-:4peach: Wedding Dress
-:4peach: Cat-Bell Outfit
-:4bowser: Wedding Tuxedo
-:4bowser: Giga Bowser
-:4ganondorf: Ocarina of Time Outfit
-:4ganondorf: Demise Outfit
-:4yoshi: Orange Yoshi
-:4yoshi: Purple Yoshi
-:4jigglypuff: Lillie Hat (Pokemon Sun/Moon)
-:4jigglypuff: Pokemon Trainer Hat (Black/White)
-:4pikachu: Top-Hat
-:4pikachu: Pichu Colors
-:4palutena: Viridi Colors
-:4palutena: Medusa Colors
-:4pit: Hades Colors
-:4pit: Palutena Colors
-:4ness: Ninten Colors
-:4ness: Porky Colors
-:4wiifit: Grey Colors
-:4wiifitm: Black Colors
-:4littlemac:Orange Hair + Aqua Outfit
-:4wiremac:Red Hoodie
-:4mewtwo: Mewtwo-X (or whatever its called, the one where he looks kinda like mega man)
-:4mewtwo: Shadow Mewtwo (Again, its either crystal or shadow Mewtwo, its the Boss in PokenTournament)
-:4greninja: Blaziken Colors
-:4greninja: Zygarde Colors (or Yvetal or Xerneas)
-:4feroy: Leaf Colors
-:4feroy: Fire Emblem Awakening Armor
-:4marth: Fire Emblem Awakening Armor
 

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The winner was Skull Kid. Midna was in the lead for a while, but he beat her overtime. Then Impa caught up to Midna with Ghirahim lagging behind.

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I'll just do the next Zelda tomorrow for now. That Mario Kart 8 stream I did among other server duties exhausted me.

But I'll say this, expect more fan favorites like Tetra and Ganon (Beast) tomorrow.
 

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Oof, i keep getting more costume ideas. Ima just spill out more, don't mind me :)
Heres some costume ideas for SSB4, and maybe future ideas for costumes in SSB5.
Note: these are costumes i WANT, not the official costumes.

-:4tlink: Outset Island Pajama's
-:4tlink: Toon version of BOTW link
-:4link: Skyward Sword Pajama's
-:4link: Champions Tunic
-:rosalina: Mario Kart Biker gear
-:rosalina: Mario tennis Dress
-:4zss:Green Haired Costume (from special ending you get)
-:4zss: Young Samus
-:4zelda: Champion's Dress/Tunic from BOTW
-:4zelda: Skyward Sword Dress
-:4robinf: Tharja Themed Colors
-:4robinm: Chrom Themed Colors
-:4fox: Wolf Costume (if Wolf isn't in the new SSB5 that is)
-:4fox: Peppy Themed Colors
-:4luigi: Mr. L
-:4luigi: Cat-bell Outfit
-:4sheik: BOTW Sheik (Stealth Gear + his mask)
-:4sheik: Hyrule Warriors
-:4lucas: Masked Man Outfit (if he isn't already a character in SSB5)
-:4lucas: Kumatora Themed Colors
-:4bayonetta: Actual Jaune Outfit (long hair and all, and if she isn't already a character in SSB5)
-:4bayonetta2: Original Jaune
-:4mario: Wedding Tuxedo
-:4mario: Cat-Bell Gear
-:4peach: Wedding Dress
-:4peach: Cat-Bell Outfit
-:4bowser: Wedding Tuxedo
-:4bowser: Giga Bowser
-:4ganondorf: Ocarina of Time Outfit
-:4ganondorf: Demise Outfit
-:4yoshi: Orange Yoshi
-:4yoshi: Purple Yoshi
-:4jigglypuff: Lillie Hat (Pokemon Sun/Moon)
-:4jigglypuff: Pokemon Trainer Hat (Black/White)
-:4pikachu: Top-Hat
-:4pikachu: Pichu Colors
-:4palutena: Viridi Colors
-:4palutena: Medusa Colors
-:4pit: Hades Colors
-:4pit: Palutena Colors
-:4ness: Ninten Colors
-:4ness: Porky Colors
-:4wiifit: Grey Colors
-:4wiifitm: Black Colors
-:4littlemac:Orange Hair + Aqua Outfit
-:4wiremac:Red Hoodie
-:4mewtwo: Mewtwo-X (or whatever its called, the one where he looks kinda like mega man)
-:4mewtwo: Shadow Mewtwo (Again, its either crystal or shadow Mewtwo, its the Boss in PokenTournament)
-:4greninja: Blaziken Colors
-:4greninja: Zygarde Colors (or Yvetal or Xerneas)
-:4feroy: Leaf Colors
-:4feroy: Fire Emblem Awakening Armor
-:4marth: Fire Emblem Awakening Armor
Fox already has a Wolf color. I'd prefer something like this:
Not much in terms of referencing his games, but at least it looks cool. A Peppy alt would be hilarious. I also propose custom taunts like what they have in Overwatch. You would be able to choose your own set of taunts for each character.
 

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Fox already has a Wolf color. I'd prefer something like this:
Not much in terms of referencing his games, but at least it looks cool. A Peppy alt would be hilarious. I also propose custom taunts like what they have in Overwatch. You would be able to choose your own set of taunts for each character.

yeah true, or maybe the ability to make your OWN taunts.



Im just imagining Wario dabbing now
 

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yeah true, or maybe the ability to make your OWN taunts.



Im just imagining Wario dabbing now
Please cease. Also, making my own taunts would be fun but since Daddy Sakurai hates toxicity, it probably wouldn't happen. You could make some pretty bad stuff with the ability to make your own taunts.
 

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Oh yes XD
Waluigi in Smash would be cool though, just imagine all the crazy skins he could have.

Also true, i imagine Sakurai wouldn't want to put that in because of people taking it...."Too Far". It just shows how much Sakurai Cares about his games
 
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