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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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The only third parties I want at this point are the big boys like Geno, Banjo, Rayman, Crash, or Spyro.
Once you start getting into smaller stuff like Dante the roster feels less like "Gaming icons!" and more like "Is he from a video game? throw him in!"
Eh, in what world is Geno a gaming icon?
 

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My only complaint with Dante is the fact that for anyone who hasn't touched a Nintendo console people look at Dante and say "literally who?". At least :ultcloud: was recognizable if they remembered console wars. I think Devil May Cry would be the only series in which in the series in question has never been on a Nintendo platform. Even if FFVII is the only FF represented in Smash, the series itself was on Nintendo platforms before. DMC? hell nah dude i can't think of a single one.

Eh, in what world is Geno a gaming icon?
In the world of a Geno fan's mind.
 

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https://out.reddit.com/t3_98xomm?url=https://imgur.com/a/J35RWsk&token=AQAA6Zl8W_a_Lu4mlezFTFqnECCxLmbZLFwqs4KXCHIgdrI9ReHv&app_name=mweb2x

So, somebody put the names of all the SSBU characters so far through a translator 30 times, and this is the result. I main Killing, but what about you?
>Dedede is You Wrote Harry

Quick, someone stick Dedede’s head on Dumbledore from that scene where Dumbledore screams “HARRY POTTER! DID YEW WRITE YER NAME IN THA GOBLET O’ FIYAH?!”

Also I main Then. Just try and guess whether I mean Snake or Cloud. :awesome:

the answer is yes
 
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The biggest issue with a RE trailer is that they won't be able to kill Luigi again.
Gotta cut the man some slack

 

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A couple of thoughts on the "Anti-Third Party" thing:
  • It's not that people have never played/hate anything that's not Nintendo, but part of what people loved about Smash is that it's a celebration of Nintendo and it's history. More and more Third Parties goes against that original appeal. Kind of like when your favorite Thai restaurant puts burgers on the menu. It's not a bad food, but if I wanted burgers, I'd go to a burger place. I came here because I was in the mood for Thai food! :p
  • Third Parties DO "steal" spots. If Smash had a strict Only Nintendo rule, there's a lot of beloved/secondary characters that would get a shot. But when you've opened up to the best of the best from all of gaming? Not even going to get a mention.
Don't get me wrong, there's appeal and upside the Third Parties, but this attempt to paint people who liked Smash as a Nintendo cross-over as hateful/narrow-minded/uneducated isn't going to fly.
 

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>Dedede is You Wrote Harry

Quick, someone stick Dedede’s head on Dumbledore from that scene where Dumbledore screams “HARRY POTTER! DID YEW WRITE YER NAME IN THA GOBLET O’ FIYAH?!”

Also I main Then. Just try and guess whether I mean Snake or Cloud. :awesome:
And Pit is just "Okay" . This works so much, LOL.
 

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Third parties excite me far more than most Nintendo characters at this point. Like it's gotten to the point for me with new Nintendo IPs and all-stars that when they're introduced it's just ''Oh it's a matter of time before they're in Smash Brothers."

There's more excitement in seeing which companies Sakurai approached for third party content, because the Nintendo side of it all save his wtf and retro picks are SO easy to predict.
 

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I rather like having third-parties (sig being the proof), as long as they're significant to Nintendo in some way. It would be interesting to see how far Sakurai can go to revive dead third-party characters like Simon and Richter.

Asking for random third-parties with little rhyme or reason would be unwise though.

https://out.reddit.com/t3_98xomm?url=https://imgur.com/a/J35RWsk&token=AQAA6Zl8W_a_Lu4mlezFTFqnECCxLmbZLFwqs4KXCHIgdrI9ReHv&app_name=mweb2x

So, somebody put the names of all the SSBU characters so far through a translator 30 times, and this is the result. I main Killing, but what about you?
Inside Lucario? DON'T GIVE THE FAN ARTISTS ANY IDEAS. Also, "Murder Now" is what most people would think about the Mii Fighters.

:rotfl: Poor Simon though. :rotfl:

Fatal Frame isn’t as overtly bloody and its horror comes from exorcising evil spirits with a camera, so yeah

It’d probably be easier to include without raising the rating than RE or SH. Heck while it’s rather OOC I can buy the so called leaked Dante trailer concept if it’s to avoid rustling the ESRB’s jimmies

although my trailer concept in the Direct a Trailer thread is more true to Dante’s character without showing anything excessively violent also
Not to mention that the RE cast would have to go through Sakurai's customs to make sure they have weapons that aren't too realistic.
 
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but I feel like y’all are sleeping on a much more feasible survival horror representation: Fatal Frame. Nintendo co owns it now, after all, and Mayu and Mio f
ugh... i would love for nintendo to do something wise with that IP... eshop only on the wiiu, when the console had a death timer, so i really didnt wanted to invest more electronic dollars on that console :/

Still, can we have an HD remake of the first 2 games? in a non straight up murdered console plz ...
 
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>Dedede is You Wrote Harry

Quick, someone stick Dedede’s head on Dumbledore from that scene where Dumbledore screams “HARRY POTTER! DID YEW WRITE YER NAME IN THA GOBLET O’ FIYAH?!”

Also I main Then. Just try and guess whether I mean Snake or Cloud. :awesome:
I am adding this sentence so this isn't JUST a picture spam.
harry-did-yah-put-yah-name-in-da-goblet-of-29057491.png
 

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Third parties excite me far more than most Nintendo characters at this point. Like it's gotten to the point for me with new Nintendo IPs and all-stars that when they're introduced it's just ''Oh it's a matter of time before they're in Smash Brothers."

There's more excitement in seeing which companies Sakurai approached for third party content, because the Nintendo side of it all save his wtf and retro picks are SO easy to predict.
Okay but it's a Nintendo-based fighter with guests.
10% Guests.
That's a lot of guests.
How many guests before you lose your main identity?
 

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I like how Zelda is still Zelda lmao

And Wario is literally just “A”
 

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Bruh, just thinking about Silent Hill and Fatal Frame possibly getting playable representation gives me a headache, speculation-wise. @_@

The tables of speculation will certainly turn if Dante ends up being playable. It is going to take a while to process such a scenario coming true.
 

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I like how Zelda is still Zelda lmao

And Wario is literally just “A”
The A is there because he can't fully express his torment of being all along. He's depressed with no one there to support him. The one's closest to him are both confirmed to be assists, so he stands there by himself, sulking. Only being able to muster "A". Such a sad life for a young man.
 

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Okay but it's a Nintendo-based fighter with guests.
10% Guests.
That's a lot of guests.
How many guests before you lose your main identity?
You don't really lose your identity or are near close to it when literally 90 percent of the roster is Nintendo based.

And even one of the guests is practically owned by them. Like get out of here with this irrational fear mongering.
 

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Hey guys. I have a friend that works at Nintendo, and he told me Travis Touchdown is going to be a new character. His trailer is all about him beating Snake to an assassination target (which is Isabelle, confirming her as a newcomer as well).
Stop! Stop right there that cinnamon roll is not to be killed in a CGI cutscene.
No no no you see

There’s this Dante
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Suave, cool headed, a bit cocky, but in a cheesy goodness kind of way

And then there’s...Not Dante from the 2013 reboot we dare not speak of which was thankfully later retconned:
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There’s a reason this vulgar, rude caricature is dubbed Donte: “Don’t call him Dante”
Well, at least 'Donte' looks more mature and level headed this time so that's a plus.
 

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You don't really lose your identity or are near close to it when literally 90 percent of the roster is Nintendo based.

And even one of the guests is practically owned by them. Like get out of here with this irrational fear mongering.
Not wanting a Nintendo fighting game to not have more Nintendo characters is "fear mongering"?
 

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Honestly, the only way in which third-party additions would cross a line is if we get a non-video game third-party character (mostly because of how stupid it would be).

Eh, in what world is Geno a gaming icon?
In an alternate universe where Geno is the main character of the most iconic JRPG whereas Cloud is just a minor character from a Legend of Zelda spin-off.:troll:
 

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Smash is a celebration of Nintendo's history. 3rd parties also happen to be a part of that history.

That's why I'm okay with the abundance of them. As long as they had some role on a Nintendo system (and, you know, they're actually video game characters), I don't see why they should be excluded.
 

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Not wanting a Nintendo fighting game to not have more Nintendo characters is "fear mongering"?
No.
But saying 10% is too many guests and that the series is at risk of losing it's identity is utterly ridiculous.

 
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