Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Waluigi is not getting in]

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This is what I currently see

But there is some blue thing in front I don't know what it could be

Edit: LOL, I spelled "Shorts" wrong

Yeah it's not Banjo. The font looks nothing like the style of Banjo Kazooie.

 

[Will]

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This is what I currently see

But there is some blue thing in front I don't know what it could be

Edit: LOL, I spelled "Shorts" wrong

Kazooie is orange with yellow highlights, not the other way around. "Banjo"'s head isn't remotely close to what its actually shaped like, and the only thing that looks credible is the belt buckle.
No offense, but this is mega tinfoil levels of conspiracy.

 

[Captain Fun]

Black Knight would be weird as an Ike echo. I can't imagine that bulky armor on Ike's frame not becoming a clipping nightmare.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Kazooie is orange with yellow highlights, not the other way around.
No offense, but this is mega tinfoil levels of conspiracy.

Kazooie is red

And the kazooie part I circled is the red

I don't know what the yellow part is

But it looks like something blue with a yellow tip is in front

 

[Danpal65]

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This is what I currently see

But there is some blue thing in front I don't know what it could be

Edit: LOL, I spelled "Shorts" wrong

Let me just go and get my Rorschach Test manual so I can do this properly

 

[KMDP]

Zelgius? Yeah, I doubt it. I don’t think he scored very high in popularity polls.

For those unaware, Zelgius is the Black Knight.

The Black Knight is a popular Fire Emblem character.

Seems like the leaker is flexing his FE spoiler muscles, though. Why not just say "Black Knight"?

 

[Zinith]

Would you be willing to settle for championing Poochy? Kamek may be dead in the water, seeing as he still can't get to be a boss in his own series.

I already put my support for Poochy. ANY Yoshi character gets my support as he desperately needs it

 

[Will]

Kazooie is red

And the kazooie part I circled is the red

1. Doesn't matter, proves my point just as fine because the one in the picture is yellow with orange/red highlights. The exact OPPOSITE of what Kazooie actually is.
2. How does that prove it? By that logic it's Mario just because it's red.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Personally the next two echoes are Shadow and Isabelle. Sorry but I'm not confident in Dixie Kong.

 

[KMDP]

Isn’t Black Knight deconfirmed though? Part of a stage?

Actually, just the opposite.

Black Knight used to be in the Background of the second section of Castle Siege (on the throne), but he's been replaced by a differently coloured Knight.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

For those unaware, Zelgius is the Black Knight.

The Black Knight is a popular Fire Emblem character.

Seems like the leaker is flexing his FE spoiler muscles, though. Why not just say "Black Knight"?

Welp didn’t know that

I suppose it’s a more reasonable pick than Soren anyway, but if FE were to get a new character, I’d imagine it might be Celica since Echoes was more recent

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

1. Doesn't matter, proves my point just as fine because the one in the picture is yellow with orange/red highlights. The exact OPPOSITE of what Kazooie actually is.
2. How does that prove it? By that logic it's Mario just because it's red.

I didn't say it proved it. That's just what I currently see.

 

[Danpal65]

Personally the next two echoes are Shadow and Isabelle. Sorry but I'm not confident in Dixie Kong.

With how Chrom has been put together I think Dixie has an even stronger chance as an echo. She could be based on Diddy Kong and have Ike’s DK’s up b since it is similar to her helicopter hair move.

 

[Deleted member]

Richter wasn't popular within the Smash fanbase but he is extremely popular within the CV one from what I hear so characters like Black Knight wouldn't surprise me(him being a free unit im FEH has also helped his popularity a lot though I doubt it was in time to affect Smash).

Black Knight would be weird as an Ike echo. I can't imagine that bulky armor on Ike's frame not becoming a clipping nightmare.

That's sorta why I expect him as at least a semi-clone if he is in, Ike's ground attacks at least fit him, he just needs less acrobatic aerials and Up-B.

Actually, just the opposite.

Black Knight used to be in the Background of the second section of Castle Siege (on the throne), but he's been replaced by a differently coloured Knight.

Wait wait wait, he has? Can you shpw me a picture? Because if so, this really gives Black Knight being in a lot more validity

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

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This is what I currently see

But there is some blue thing in front I don't know what it could be

Edit: LOL, I spelled "Shorts" wrong

It's not even brown

 

[Will]

Wait wait wait, he has? Can you shpw me a picture? Because if so, this really gives Black Knight being in a lot more validity

Black Knight was never in a background, it was just a generic guy that looked like Black Knight. Not unless you think Black Knight decided to rebrand himself as Red Knight for Smash.

 

[StormC]

Would Fire Emblem fans be upset with another sword user, even if it's BK? Seems like they're starting to wish for other weapons to show up at this point.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

With how Chrom has been put together I think Dixie has an even stronger chance as an echo. She could be based on Diddy Kong and have Ike’s DK’s up b since it is similar to her helicopter hair move.

I feel like the perfect time to reveal Dixie would have been in the last direct though.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's not even brown

Photoshop says otherwise when you get down to the pixel level and check the hex value at different points

 

[monadoboy]

Zelgius? Yeah, I doubt it. I don’t think he scored very high in popularity polls.

So, how many other leaks have failed to say anything about "Spirits"? And Felix and Zelgius definitely have to be those picks barely anybody would think of.

Spoiler: Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn

Zelgius = Black Knight, who has a mii costume in Smash 4

Would Fire Emblem fans be upset with another sword user, even if it's BK? Seems like they're starting to wish for other weapons to show up at this point.

I'd take as many swords and sword fighters as Sakurai can give me. If it's an Echo character, it doesn't really matter anyway. An axe replacing a sword would be awkward at best, ridiculous at worst.

 

[Will]

Would Fire Emblem fans be upset with another sword user, even if it's BK? Seems like they're starting to wish for other weapons to show up at this point.

I think the more swords, or even just more Fire Emblem in general, will make people who were already having a bad taste of the series for its overabundance want to spit on its face.

 

[Iridium]

The graphics in SSBU are so good, and it shows here in this video by GameXplain.

 

[Will]

The graphics in SSBU are so good, and it shows here in this video by GameXplain.

Even if the Switch is barely over the Wii U's specs it can make so much of a difference. could be even better though but thats just me

 

[UltimateWario]

On one hand the idea of more Fire Emblem characters causes my eyes to roll at a rate as of yet unrecorded by science, but on the other hand the roster has already delivered more than I ever thought possible out of Sakurai.

 

[Daeyrat]

I feel like the perfect time to reveal Dixie would have been in the last direct though.

Someone sort of said that K.Rool locking diddy and donkey(by burying them) at the very end of the direct could be a link to revealing her in the next trailer.

 

[Deleted member]

Black Knight was never in a background, it was just a generic guy that looked like Black Knight. Not unless you think Black Knight decided to rebrand himself as Red Knight for Smash.

I mean, he does wear red armor as Zelgius and if it was changed there has to be some reason behind it, right?

 

[Iridium]

Spoiler: Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn

Zelgius = Black Knight, who has a mii costume in Smash 4

Well, I wish I knew that earlier. Forget what I said earlier. I still wonder who Felix is though.

 

[Zinith]

Wait, what's this about Black Knight from PoR?

 

[Noipoi]

The graphics in SSBU are so good, and it shows here in this video by GameXplain.

and people say this is a port.
Does it reuse some assets? Yes, but this is obviously a new game!

 

[Rie Sonomura]

All in all I still think people are putting just a little too much stock in the Mii Costume theory

Dunban’s still deconfirmed and I doubt we’ll get a playable Chocobo lol

inb4 a leak pops up with Akira from Virtua Fighter

 

[Pyra]

and people say this is a port.
Does it reuse some assets? Yes, but this is obviously a new game!

I thought we were done with the "this is/isn't" a port thing
Haha

 

[Will]

Dunban’s still deconfirmed

That only makes his chances stronger.

 

[ErenJager]

I need Metal Cavern as a stage.

 

[Oddbaum21]

I don’t think Jibanyan or Komasan have a high chance of getting into Smash, they don’t have enough potential for specials and maybe aerials too. Blizzaria seems like she has a lot of potential, though.

 

[Zinith]

Although I find it odd to add a character to Shulk's Final Smash when there was no 4-member Chain Attacks in that game

 

[KMDP]

Wait wait wait, he has? Can you shpw me a picture? Because if so, this really gives Black Knight being in a lot more validity

Black Knight was never in a background, it was just a generic guy that looked like Black Knight. Not unless you think Black Knight decided to rebrand himself as Red Knight for Smash.

Specifically, the Knight who may or may not be Zelgius is in this picture... waaaaaaaaaaay in the back.

The lighting of the stage makes the red armour look more like the Black Knight's colouration; you have to actually look at the model itself via hacking to know the armour isn't actually black.

Also, Arigarmy, don't forget that Zelgius's armour is red.

 

[Zorfendor]

I'm going to need context. I understand the implication is the Lloyd was confirmed or something, but I don't understand the context.

I commented on a post that Aselia Con, a Tales of Convention in the States, shared about the Tales of the Abyss animation coming to the west. I commented saying "Now bring Symphonia." Brian Beacock, Lloyd's voice actor in ToS2, commented on it and it led to that thread. He is also a guest at this upcoming con.

 

[monadoboy]

The graphics in SSBU are so good, and it shows here in this video by GameXplain.

I expected better lighting and retouched textures, but ****, some stages look almost completely redone, like Eldin Bridge.

 

[Kuon]

I decided to make a roster too, and this is what I came up with. Of course, a few of these I don't think would ever have a chance to get in

 

[Remmy-ro]

I'm amazed that they even reworked relatively new stages, not just 64 and melee's. Though if I never see Smallville again it will still be too soon