Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[UltimateWario]

John Morris. I'm way ahead of you...

And here I thought it was some unimportant side character. Sorry, John.

Edit: Just looked up Judgment Eric Lecarde, Jesus Christ why

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

If Isabella turns out to be an echo, I think one way they could implement the character that'd I like it is if Isabella's alternate colors are other villagers from animal crossing - Like Bowser Jr. A way to finally play as Nook

 

[Thirdkoopa]

If Isabella turns out to be an echo, I think one way they could implement the character that'd I like it is if Isabella's alternate colors are other villagers from animal crossing - Like Bowser Jr. A way to finally play as Nook

I've mentioned this before and you have no idea what I would do for Beppe to be playable lol.

 

[N3ON]

I keep bringing this up, but it's because the leak is gaining credibility.

The Galacta Knight alt for Meta Knight actually has black on the mask to make it even more similar to Galacta Knight.

I REALLY don't think we're getting Galacta Knight.

I think that part of the ResetERA leak is a hard disproving of it

Another part that people overlook is that if we can't get Takamaru due to his western obscurity, we certainly aren't going to get Sable.

 

[Noipoi]

Is it wrong that the whole time they showed off Simon, Richter and Dracula's Castle the only thing I could think of was-

"They did the mash! They did the monster mash! the monster mash! It was a graveyard smash!"

Because if that's wrong then I don't wanna be right.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Y'know, I'm curious, one of the more likely characters expected is Skull Kid but what the hell would the Skull Kid even do?

 

[Noipoi]

Actually, why is Skull Kid called Skull Kid? He doesn't look like a skeleton he looks like a scarecrow with a beak.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Actually, why is Skull Kid called Skull Kid? He doesn't look like a skeleton he looks like a scarecrow with a beak.

Probably a localization change, apparently they're called Stalbabies in Japan? Skull Kids are what you get if kids get lost in the Lost Woods and if an adult gets lost they become a Stalfos

 

[Idon]

Y'know, I'm curious, one of the more likely characters expected is Skull Kid but what the hell would the Skull Kid even do?

If it's anything like what Hyrule Warriors Skull kid does, I'll be happy.

 

[Noipoi]

Probably a localization change, apparently they're called Stalbabies in Japan? Skull Kids are what you get if kids get lost in the Lost Woods and if an adult gets lost they become a Stalfos

Oh, I suppose that makes sense.

 

[Shroob]

Y'know, I'm curious, one of the more likely characters expected is Skull Kid but what the hell would the Skull Kid even do?

I could see a moveset based around his ocarina and Tatl+Tael being used as projectiles.

And hell, if Sakurai wanted to get real creative, he could summon his marionettes from TP, since apparently the TP Skull Kid is the same one from MM.

 

[vaanrose]

Actually, why is Skull Kid called Skull Kid? He doesn't look like a skeleton he looks like a scarecrow with a beak.

In Ocarina of Time his only purpose is to be the kid you give the Skull Mask to.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Giygas in Mother 1 not having a good reference image kind of just makes me think that he would be even easier to put in as a Mewtwo echo... They can take whatever creative liberties they need to make him match Mewtwo's basic skeleton and animations. Of course, that depends on if they really want him in.

If you have to essentially invent the character's appearance and create a good-looking 3D model for them with little reference for what they look like, I imagine that would complicate the development process and defeat the main purpose of Echoes being easy additions.

 

[Ivander]

And I'm of the rare opinion. All of Simon's looks are hideous.

Even Lords of Shadow Simon?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...MoF-Box.png/revision/latest?cb=20130725090625

Probably one of the few good things from the LoS series.

 

[Will]

Actually, why is Skull Kid called Skull Kid? He doesn't look like a skeleton he looks like a scarecrow with a beak.

Skull Kids are a race, not a specific person.

 

[infomon]

Has anyone here played A Boy And His Blob (old NES title or its re-imagining on the Wii)?

Come support Boy+Blob for Smash Utlimate!
https://smashboards.com/threads/trouble-on-blobonia-a-boy-and-his-blob-support-thread.457356/

It would be such a unique and fantastic character; shame that it's so obscure.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Actually, why is Skull Kid called Skull Kid? He doesn't look like a skeleton he looks like a scarecrow with a beak.

And this too... when wearing a mask.

 

[Will]

And I'm of the rare opinion. All of Simon's looks are hideous.

Consider the following:

You can't say Prince Charming is ugly.

 

[infomon]

Let's hope that Simon has a Fabulous outfit.

 

[Noipoi]

I kinda hope that Gardevoir and Gothitelle leak is real for two reasons.
1. I really like Gardevoir.
2. I really wanna see all the people go "the **** is a Gothitelle?"

 

[SquashiniKun]

Let's hope that Simon has a Fabulous outfit.

I seriously hope that one of his alternate costumes is his design from Judgement, i actually kinda like the redesigns in that game.

 

[Will]

We have a brown-haired Simon that's based off his SCIV art, it's not unlikely that he'd get a red-haired alt with black armor.

 

[Idon]

I seriously hope that one of his alternate costumes is his design from Judgement, i actually kinda like the redesigns in that game.
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Get outta here, Light Yagami

 

[Dragoncharystary]

I think Simon's cgi model from the trailer looks sick af but his actual in game model makes him look like a grumpy old dude.

 

[Takasmash]

Hades and Skull Kid will completed the the villains roster cant count Black Shadow he will be Falcon echo.

 

[RandomAce]

I seriously hope that one of his alternate costumes is his design from Judgement, i actually kinda like the redesigns in that game.
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The closest thing we’ll ever get to an anime character in Smash.

LIGHT YAGAMI Writes your name in Smash!

 

[Noipoi]

I think Simon's cgi model from the trailer looks sick af but his actual in game model makes him look like a grumpy old dude.

"Old Man yells at Vampire"

 

[Takasmash]

I think Simon's cgi model from the trailer looks sick af but his actual in game model makes him look like a grumpy old dude.

I did wanted the Chronicles version but seeing this classic Simon in action is clean.

 

[infomon]

I seriously hope that one of his alternate costumes is his design from Judgement, i actually kinda like the redesigns in that game.

oh no. please delete this. I revoke my post.

 

[vaanrose]

I think Simon's cgi model from the trailer looks sick af but his actual in game model makes him look like a grumpy old dude.

I expect a certain degree of difference between the renders and the in-game models, but this is my only true disappoint with the game right now. The renders are clean as hell, and none of the actual in-game models even begin to approach that quality.

 

[Noipoi]

I expect a certain degree of difference between the renders and the in-game models, but this is my only true disappoint with the game right now. The renders are clean as hell, and none of the actual in-game models even begin to approach that quality.

Ahem

You were saying????????

 

[Will]

I expect a certain degree of difference between the renders and the in-game models, but this is my only true disappoint with the game right now. The renders are clean as hell, and none of the actual in-game models even begin to approach that quality.

To be fair, Nintendo's motto isn't meant to be "how do we make the PS4's specs look like a wimp", it's obviously gonna be watered down.

by like
a lot

 

[Noipoi]

To be fair, Nintendo's motto isn't meant to be "how do we make the PS4's specs look like a wimp", it's obviously gonna be watered down.

by like
a lot

Okay but there's watered down and then there's Chrom, who looked like he just got out of a Wii game.

 

[Apollo500]

Okay but there's watered down and then there's Chrom, who looked like he just got out of a Wii game.

I think most of the in-game models look great, but Chrom and Young Link just look... off. Chrom especially. What's up with his face? I really hope those two have their models polished up a bit by the time the game is out.

 

[vaanrose]

To be fair, Nintendo's motto isn't meant to be "how do we make the PS4's specs look like a wimp", it's obviously gonna be watered down.

by like
a lot

I'm aware of what is and what isn't technically feasible. Even the PS4 isn't about to produce something as sexy as Dark Samus's render in real time. They also have the non-envious task of trying to make the characters look good in over 100 different lighting conditions. I just think they could do better is all, lol.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

I think Simon's cgi model from the trailer looks sick af but his actual in game model makes him look like a grumpy old dude.

I mean, it makes sense if he's grumpy, he probably lashes out a lot...

 

[Thirdkoopa]

THING TO NOTE ABOUT CHROM (and other footage, for that matter): we don't know when that footage was taken. Not that I'm saying get your hopes up, or that the in-game ones will be even close to the renders, but I imagine most of the art team must be purely focused on last minute touches/cleanup.

 

[vaanrose]

THING TO NOTE ABOUT CHROM (and other footage, for that matter): we don't know when that footage was taken. Not that I'm saying get your hopes up, or that the in-game ones will be even close to the renders, but I imagine most of the art team must be purely focused on last minute touches/cleanup.

I thought the same thing in Smash 4 when I saw Link's face for the first time. "Ah, that must be a placeholder. I'm sure they'll change it." And then they didn't.

 

[Apollo500]

THING TO NOTE ABOUT CHROM (and other footage, for that matter): we don't know when that footage was taken. Not that I'm saying get your hopes up, or that the in-game ones will be even close to the renders, but I imagine most of the art team must be purely focused on last minute touches/cleanup.

This is what I've been hoping for, that the footage we've seen is from earlier builds of the game. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I guess we'll know soon enough, anyway.

 

[SirCamp]

Well, I posted this in the Isaac thread, but I'm ready to get roasted. I have some random, largely baseless predictions to make.

I predict that we will get a new demo version of Smash unveiled at Gamescom later this month. We know that they will have a playable demo, and as far as I know this is the first time it will be playable post direct and thus the first time in a post Simon and K Rool world.

I also predict that they will reveal Isaac as a newcomer at Gamescom and that Simon, K Rool, and Isaac will be playable in the new demo version of ultimate at Gamescom.

However, if (when) I'm wrong, I will... do absolutely nothing.