Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Nonno Umby]

Still, both Belmonts and Ridley are using their classic designs. Nothing much, but it shows they're meant to please the old fans of their games, not new ones.
(Though, I guess, reverse of this argument can be made for Daisy)

Well the older design is the most iconic for both. Also Ridley could be argued is a mix and match of several of his incarnations. And Simon's latest redesign was in Castlevania Judgement

Nobody likes the Judgment design. But anyway Konamk have been using Simon's classic design recently, from officially licensed figures to his appearance on games like Super Bomberman R and the mobile Castlevania game. And Richter's other design is from Symphony of the Night, which isn't that much more recent than Rondo of Blood.


Also Sakurai wanted to use classic Pac-man instead of the Ghostly Adventure. That's exactly a case of a relevant character going with his classic appearance rather that the newer redesign.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How? Geno's a marionette puppet, not a robot mech. It's like buying a Megazord to figure out how Pinocchio should move.

Geno was an action figure. Not a marionette. He's not controlled by strings

Watch how the kids plays with Geno

 

[Enchess]

You know, I think each character having a few lines of text a few pictures at the end of their classic modes like average fighting games would be cute. It would give people clamoring for a Story Mode something to chew on and it would give the game a little character.

I'd adore that. I actually don't want another SSE. I was really excited for it at first, but got bored by end. My dream is Adventure Mode 2 with some small end scenes like this.

 

[Will]

You know, I think each character having a few lines of text a few pictures at the end of their classic modes like average fighting games would be cute. It would give people clamoring for a Story Mode something to chew on and it would give the game a little character.

the hell is duck hunt gonna do at the end of classic
"Alright Duck, I need you to fly up so our God with a gun can kill you"
"wait what"

 

[Wambo]

How? Geno's a marionette puppet, not a robot mech. It's like buying a Megazord to figure out how Pinocchio should move.

That comparison almost made me spit up my drink.

I should explain: Sakurai stated that he bought the mech to use it's RIFLE as a design reference. People looked up the mech and the rifle's barrel looked perfect for Geno's arm.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Mii costumes can be good to look at for popular characters but it isn't the end all be all sort of thing *criesinashley*.

Theory: They base newcommer selection on the Mii Costumes that were sold the most

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That comparison almost made me spit up my drink.

I should explain: Sakurai stated that he bought the mech to use it's RIFLE as a design reference. People looked up the mech and the rifle's barrel looked perfect for Geno's arm.

A good theory. Of course, it might not be the reason he chose the rifle.

But yeah, people are forgetting that he wanted the rifle specifically.

 

[DarkFalcon]

You know, I think each character having a few lines of text a few pictures at the end of their classic modes like average fighting games would be cute. It would give people clamoring for a Story Mode something to chew on and it would give the game a little character.

Looking forward to Dark Samus' dialogue: irohgioshgpfbviuhgsf *laughs in phazon*

 

[Will]

That comparison almost made me spit up my drink.

I should explain: Sakurai stated that he bought the mech to use it's RIFLE as a design reference. People looked up the mech and the rifle's barrel looked perfect for Geno's arm.

Subjectively it looks perfect. Does it mean it's gonna be used for Geno? **** no. You already have a Mii costume with a gun attached to it, you don't need to overhaul on a gun design when you can just update a preexisting one. It may not even be for a character, it could be for an item or an Assist character who uses rifles, say Bill and Lance for example.

 

[FurretBro]

It'd be funny if the spirits thing was just a placeholder hidden behind the censor.

To be honest it could be. We know Sakurai by now.

 

[Zinith]

You know, I think each character having a few lines of text a few pictures at the end of their classic modes like average fighting games would be cute. It would give people clamoring for a Story Mode something to chew on and it would give the game a little character.

"After inadvertently saving the world from Master Hand [or whomever], Yoshi is still Yoshi"

 

[osby]

Looking forward to Dark Samus' dialogue: irohgioshgpfbviuhgsf *laughs in phazon*

Sounds more intelligible than half of the fighters. I can get why people wanted voice acting in Subspace Emissary.

 

[Enchess]

"After inadvertently saving the world from Master Hand [or whomever], Yoshi is still Yoshi"

I'm definitely too tired and have read too many of your posts, cuz I read that "Boshi is still Yoshi", which actually still makes perfect sense.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Elma uses a gun that is really similar to the gun the mech uses.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Is there any way to see the sales of the mii costu- oh who the **** am I kidding we don't even know the ballot results

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Does anyone have a picture of this supposed mech?

 

[FurretBro]

I just want a talking Geno

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I just want a talking Geno

A geno figure that has the power to shoot rocket fists capable of knocking out a grown Italian plumber

 

[Will]

Is there any way to see the sales of the mii costu- oh who the **** am I kidding we don't even know the ballot results

What made you think the key to probability was the sales of the costumes and not who was made into a costume itself?

 

[Wambo]

Elma uses a gun that is really similar to the gun the mech uses.

Elma uses pistols.

Is there any way to see the sales of the mii costu- oh who the **** am I kidding we don't even know the ballot results

Wasn't Geno bundled with Cloud?

 

[Zinith]

That's another thing. What do y'all imagine Geno sounding like?

 

[RandomAce]

As someone who desperately wants Spirits to be SSE 2 or at the very least a brand new cinematic story.

I’m a little worried by the title, it’s simply called “Spirits” which doesn't really bring out an action-adventurous vibe, it makes it sound more like a series of mini games involving ghosts or something.

If it was called something like “The Spirit Emissary” or “Rise of the Spirits”, I’d be a little hopeful.

I don’t get why some people think this is the new story mode.

As much as I want it to be a story mode, at most, Spirits is most likely the mode used to unlock the characters and have you fight the boss battles Rathalos and Dracula are in and probably a couple of more bosses, which I would be alright with.

However, creating a story mode with 67+ characters is asinine, and makes little to no sense at this point, despite how cool it would be, it would be an extensive workload. SSE nearly killed Brawl and it had less than half of Ultimate’s roster and the story was still a mess. Imagine doing something like this but twice the work and even LESS development time.

Honestly, they would rather have something like a Smash Manga/Anime as an seperate entity entirely, which I’m all aboard since they can put more effort into that than have to worry about making the game.

 

[FurretBro]

Does anyone have a picture of this supposed mech?

We did and I do.


But it's on a laptop that I currently do not have access to. Maybe tomorrow. All I know is that it looks very similar to Geno's arm gun. Like, REALLY SIMILAR.

 

[osby]

Is there any way to see the sales of the mii costu- oh who the **** am I kidding we don't even know the ballot results

Plot twist: Chocobo costumes sold best and we're going to get them as fighters.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

What made you think the key to probability was the sales of the costumes and not who was made into a costume itself?

Cause Ashley and Knuckles didn't make the cut so I figure maybe it's the ones that made the most capital

Honestly I was just asking to see if maybe the results lined up with my hypothesis

 

[PSIGuy]

Remember when "Geno + Mallow as one character" was a thing? Seeing how Richter and Simon got in with the same moveset makes me think it isn't such a crazy idea. Of course there's a difference between Echos who borrow from each other and two different characters as a Duck Hunt-type fighter, but still. If they're doing the licensing they might as well go all the way, Sakurai went in for Snake and Simon and came out with Richter as well.

 

[FurretBro]

That's another thing. What do y'all imagine Geno sounding like?

Very deep voice.

"I serve.. a higher authority"
"That's enough!"

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That's another thing. What do y'all imagine Geno sounding like?

I'm not very good with voice actors and all that stuff

But my choice after googling some things was "Crispin Freeman"

 

[Will]

Remember when "Geno + Mallow as one character" was a thing? Seeing how Richter and Simon got in with the same moveset makes me think it isn't such a crazy idea. Of course there's a difference between Echos who borrow from each other and two different characters as a Duck Hunt-type fighter, but still. If they're doing the licensing they might as well go all the way, Sakurai went in for Snake and Simon and came out with Richter as well.

Mallow, as much as I think he's underrated, would work better as an Assist than a fully playable character in my opinion. It's the same way I see Isabelle.

watch as Mallow becomes playable but Geno is an assist

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Elma uses pistols.

This is not a pistol.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Remember when "Geno + Mallow as one character" was a thing? Seeing how Richter and Simon got in with the same moveset makes me think it isn't such a crazy idea. Of course there's a difference between Echos who borrow from each other and two different characters as a Duck Hunt-type fighter, but still. If they're doing the licensing they might as well go all the way, Sakurai went in for Snake and Simon and came out with Richter as well.

I think I'm the only Geno fan that would actually like a Geno/ Mallow team that can switch between

 

[Pakky]

Spoiler: Mona_WarioWare Gold

So, I can never judge the 'level' with these girls with hair. Hope this isn't too jerking.

 

[Enchess]

Does it really make sense for Sakurai to buy the mech as a reference for Geno's gun after already having it modeled for the Mii costume? It's not impossible he wanted it redone, it's just a weird timeline

 

[Troykv]

Do you think we'll get new Mii Customes?

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Elma uses pistols.


Wasn't Geno bundled with Cloud?

Maybe but you can still purchase em seperately from what I undestand

 

[Will]

This is not a pistol.

This is the biggest "delet this" energy I've felt in an image.

 

[FurretBro]

Ike's voice wouldn't even be half bad.

 

[Wambo]

This is not a pistol.

It's also not the rifle from Sakurai's mech.

 

[Will]

Do you think we'll get new Mii Customes?

I don't know about that, I don't know if Miis have been shown to have costumes in the first place.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

This is the biggest "delet this" energy I've felt in an image.

It's the only good picture of the gun I could find.