Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Dragoncharystary]

I'm curious to how Skull Kid would work in the eyes of papa sakurai. Becuase cmon, were you guys really expecting K. Rool of all people to have a counter?

Well the first thing I expect him to do is levitate in place just like Dark Samus does.

As for a moveset, this might give some ideas:

Could incorporate the faires and also use dark magic blasts. Basically anything here is fair game besides the moon.

 

[Wambo]

Hmm, so maybe it wasn't Skull Kid that got him ratted out then, and maybe Skull Kid actually IS coming to the game?

I'm sorry, I just want Skull Kid.

I don't blame you. Majora's Mask has an iconic design, I'd love to see his art on the character scroll, and I'd love to have both villains for Young Link in the game.
Seriously though, I think the fact that the Moon is just an AT now when we literally just had an easily transferrable Skull Kid AT last game is pretty fishy. When/if Geno gets in, Skull Kid has my full support.

 

[osby]

My boi is essentially a reverse Little Mac.

I think that would be Jigglypuff.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

"Robin, what have you done? You changed the future!! You've created a time paradox!"

...damnit, take your like.

 

[Zinith]

I think that would be Jigglypuff.

My boi actually has a better air game than Jigglypuff except for Melee

 

[Shroob]

My biggest reserve for Skull Kid is that the Moon would be the perfect Final Smash for him.

The whole "Transforms into Majora" just seems weird.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Why couldn't Skull Kid still have the Moon as his Final Smash?

Is there a rule explicitly stating that it can't happen?

 

[Zinith]

Why couldn't Skull Kid still have the Moon as his Final Smash?

Is there a rule explicitly stating that it can't happen?

Good point. Riki is both an AT AND part of Shulk's Final Smash

 

[Wambo]

My biggest reserve for Skull Kid is that the Moon would be the perfect Final Smash for him.

The whole "Transforms into Majora" just seems weird.

To be fair, there seems to be a lot of hints that even though something is one thing, it can still be another.

> The Moon is in the background of Great Bay
> The Moon is an AT
> The Moon is in Skull Kid's Final Smash
> The Moon is beautiful tonight. Look outside.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

I don't blame you. Majora's Mask has an iconic design, I'd love to see his art on the character scroll, and I'd love to have both villains for Young Link in the game.
Seriously though, I think the fact that the Moon is just an AT now when we literally just had an easily transferrable Skull Kid AT last game is pretty fishy. When/if Geno gets in, Skull Kid has my full support.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, Geno and Skull Kid would be absolutely perfect for a dual reveal trailer. I'm currently working on an idea for their reveal trailer which involves Young Link being led through the Lost Woods by Geno where they are attacked by Skull Kid. Once I finish it I'll post it in both the Geno and Skull kid threads.

 

[osby]

Maybe. I just hope his counter isn't as ridonkulous as Corrin's.

Hakf of the K.Rool fans after final Smash direct: "K.Rool have endless moveset potential, he wouldn't share a single move with anyone, unlike those dime a dozen sword fighters."
Yeah... about that...

 

[Knight Dude]

My biggest reserve for Skull Kid is that the Moon would be the perfect Final Smash for him.

The whole "Transforms into Majora" just seems weird.

I mean, that is what he does. But the Moon would be more exciting. I'm assuming that the Majora FS would work like Masked Dedede or the new version of Wario Man.

 

[MainJPW]

Why couldn't Skull Kid still have the Moon as his Final Smash?

Is there a rule explicitly stating that it can't happen?

If Rathalos can be both a boss and an assist trophy then I don't see why the Moon can't be in Skull Kid's Final Smash.

Yeah, and then there's Rikki.

 

[Will]

To be fair, there seems to be a lot of hints that even though something is one thing, it can still be another.

> The Moon is in the background of Great Bay
> The Moon is an AT
> The Moon is in Skull Kid's Final Smash
> The Moon is beautiful tonight. Look outside.

I looked outside and I don't see the moon. Not even joking, I don't see it.
did you rob the moon you madman

 

[Dragoncharystary]

My biggest reserve for Skull Kid is that the Moon would be the perfect Final Smash for him.

The whole "Transforms into Majora" just seems weird.

Well, technically the Mask IS the fighter since it's controlling him. It wouldn't be too weird imo if the Mask comes off of him for the FS and transforms into Majora's Wrath, wips the heck out of everyone, and then becomes the Mask again and goes back onto Skull Kid's face.

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

Is there a good comprehensive post about all this stuff regarding the leaks? I'm still kinda confused as to what is going on.

 

[Noipoi]

I don't have an opinion on Skull Kid himself, but Majora's Mask is one of the best designed objects in gaming.
I wouldn't mind his inclusion at all, just for that mask.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I gotta admit, I'm more happy about K. Rool being added, but Simon's trailer was more hype for me.

I figured out who both were within the first like, six seconds of each trailer, but still.

 

[Starbound]

Skull Kid, being Majora's Mask based obviously, would add another game to be represented by the Zelda cast.

Link is rocking BotW, while Zelda is covering LttP/ALBW. Ganondorf, Young Link and Sheik are all showing off OoT and Toon Link has all three of his games covered. With Majora's Mask covered, that really would only leave Skyward Sword and TP for console Zelda games left.

We've also got the Mii Costume DLC theory that covers him too.

idk I know the leaks are weird right now but I still think he's pretty likely now.

 

[SonicMario]

I do have to admit Skull Kid and Geno would be intriguing in that basically everybody that was a huge want back in the Brawl speculation days would of finally made it. After Ridley, K. Rool, Skull Kid, and Geno. Was there really anyone else that isn't already in the game that had at least a strong cult following back in the day?

 

[Will]

Jesus, that run still don't look right to me. I'll never get used to it, it's like Bowser's old run from Melee/Brawl.

Skull Kid, being Majora's Mask based obviously, would add another game to be represented by the Zelda cast.

Link is rocking BotW, while Zelda is covering LttP/ALBW. Ganondorf, Young Link and Sheik are all showing off OoT and Toon Link has all three of his games covered. With Majora's Mask covered, that really would only leave Skyward Sword and TP for console Zelda games left.

We've also got the Mii Costume DLC theory that covers him too.

idk I know the leaks are weird right now but I still think he's pretty likely now.

Young Link reps both Ocarina and Majora's Mask, because he only gets the bow in MM.

 

[Noipoi]

To be fair, there seems to be a lot of hints that even though something is one thing, it can still be another.

> The Moon is in the background of Great Bay
> The Moon is an AT
> The Moon is in Skull Kid's Final Smash
> The Moon is beautiful tonight. Look outside.

> The Moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie that's Amoreee~

 

[RandomAce]

Aaaaaaand that's what killed him.

A dead giveaway like "cutscene scripts," about "Heroes vs. Villains" not relating to story mode is easily traceable within the company. This isn't footage of the trailer, but a script of the events made before production. His source likely got smoked out due to the fact that he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

>loz18 right now

I honestly thought that it was Skull Kid that killed him.

To be fair he did get very quiet after he posted about him. Not to mention the fact that he said that Skull Kid was added to promote something for Nintendo, when there is nothing new in sight for LOZ, Majora’s Misk or otherwise in the near future is what made assume THAT was fake information.

Unless, they make a Majora Mask remake that they plan to reveal and release soon for the Switch, but we have no confirmation right now since BOTW was fairly recent and took a lot of dev work.

 

[Wambo]

I looked outside and I don't see the moon. Not even joking, I don't see it.
did you rob the moon you madman

It's a reference to a creepy Reddit writing prompt. I suggest looking it up if you're the kind of person who gets disturbed easily likes spoopy stuff.

It wouldn't be too weird imo if the Mask comes off of him for the FS and transforms into Majora's Wrath, wips the heck out of everyone, and then becomes the Mask again and goes back onto Skull Kid's face.

I really wanna see this now, just so we can get the five frames where Skull Kid is actually himself and Majora traumatized the **** out of him.

 

[Knight Dude]

Jesus, that run still don't look right to me. I'll never get used to it, it's like Bowser's old run from Melee/Brawl.


Young Link reps both Ocarina and Majora's Mask, because he only gets the bow in MM.

I'm guessing they did that because, unlike Bowser, K.Rool's legs are extra stubby. So maybe a run animation for him is kind of hard to look right.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Edit: IDK what I was thinking.

 

[MainJPW]

Jesus, that run still don't look right to me. I'll never get used to it, it's like Bowser's old run from Melee/Brawl.

The one with Bowser literally skidding across the floor like a racecar? I mean at least K. Rool's is fitting for a fat crocodile with stubby legs.

 

[Blargg888]

Hakf of the K.Rool fans after final Smash direct: "K.Rool have endless moveset potential, he wouldn't share a single move with anyone, unlike those dime a dozen sword fighters."
Yeah... about that...

Every Smash game (except 64) there's a non-Fire Emblem newcomer that has a counter.

EVERY game.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm going to guess Skull Kid is not in the game and that was bait.

But willing to be pleasantly surprised.

 

[MainJPW]

Bowser's old run is based on his run from Mario RPG

Bowser actually uses his legs in that game.

 

[vaanrose]

Jesus, that run still don't look right to me. I'll never get used to it, it's like Bowser's old run from Melee/Brawl.


Young Link reps both Ocarina and Majora's Mask, because he only gets the bow in MM.

K.Rool's run animation in the trailer is majestic. Not sure how I feel about it being his run animation in the game itself, but it's cool. It was always a bit incongruous how anthropomorphized K.Rool was.

 

[Will]

I'm going to guess Skull Kid is not in the game and that was bait.

But willing to be pleasantly surprised.

Why would it be bait?

There's no reason for it to be so, as such there is no reason for why they didn't show the remaining missing Assists while also deconfirming Ashley in a ****ing brutal way by not even mentioning her existence in the Direct nor on the website. Of course there is reason to be skeptical. I mean, maybe the Assist-to-Character isn't Isabelle. It could be Devil or something.

 

[Zinith]

K.Rool's run animation in the trailer is majestic. Not sure how I feel about it being his run animation in the game itself, but it's cool. It was always a bit incongruous how anthropomorphized K.Rool was.

Why is it weird how anthropomorphized K. Rool is? He's always been that way

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Bowser actually uses his legs in that game.

I was totally mistaken. I don't even know why I thought that.

I don't think he has a run animation in Mario RPG.

I swear it's a reference to something though.

Why would it be bait?
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There's no reason for it to be so, as such there is no reason for why they didn't show the remaining missing Assists while also deconfirming Ashley in a ****ing brutal way by not even mentioning her existence in the Direct nor on the website. Of course there is reason to be skeptical. I mean, maybe the Assist-to-Character isn't Isabelle. It could be Devil or something.

Like people were saying, putting out false information to try and catch leakers

 

[Blargg888]

Why would it be bait?
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There's no reason for it to be so, as such there is no reason for why they didn't show the remaining missing Assists while also deconfirming Ashley in a ****ing brutal way by not even mentioning her existence in the Direct nor on the website. Of course there is reason to be skeptical. I mean, maybe the Assist-to-Character isn't Isabelle. It could be Devil or something.

Man, Melee Marth had a pretty big hand

Is that why his grab was so stupidly long?

K.Rool's run animation in the trailer is majestic. Not sure how I feel about it being his run animation in the game itself, but it's cool. It was always a bit incongruous how anthropomorphized K.Rool was.

I agree. I think it's a little weird, but I feel like it fits him since he's being portrayed as a "rival" of DK, so his run animation seems to "rival" DK's or something like that.

Or maybe I'm just looking in to it too much.

 

[Will]

I swear it's a reference to something though.

Or maybe he just made it up because not every move is gonna be a 100% reference.

Like people were saying, putting out false information to try and catch leakers

And...? What do they gain from people purposefully saying fake stuff?

 

[Radical Bones]

Surely anyone who has played Majora's Mask would prefer this beast over some silly Moon:

Spoiler

I mean, the final boss and representation of Majora makes more sense, right?

 

[Knight Dude]

Why is it weird how anthropomorphized K. Rool is? He's always been that way

He's saying how far removed he is from being an animal in his behavior.

DK basically acts like a gorilla, but Dedede doesn't act much like a bird. That sort of stuff. While K.Rool, depending on the game, either talks a lot, or can act like a straight up monster. Which is what his running animation does.

 

[BlueMagician]

K.Rool just running was an attack in his first game so maybe they though it'd be too strong to have him run normally

 

[vaanrose]

Why is it weird how anthropomorphized K. Rool is? He's always been that way

All the animals in the DKC series are pretty normal-ish on the anthro scale, though some of the Kongs start to push it. But then K.Rool (and all the other Kremlings) are bipedal Crocodiles wearing clothes who never even do anything Crocodilian. I enjoy seeing this more animalistic side to K.Rool. He's not just a Blofield parody who happens to be a Crocodile anymore, now he lets the predator come out.