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I would be shocked if Smash released this year unless it was an absurdly barebones port (something like only a few 3DS stages and songs and that is it). I think next year is going to be the earliest assuming we get any new characters added.
Just curious. What are your thoughts on a Sun/Moon Pokémon (Decidueye, Mimikyu, Tapu Koko, Incineroar, etc), particularly if the "Stars" rumor pans out?
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Do you have the stats on how long complete development took for each entry to the series, and which of those had engines built from the ground up?
Oh yeah I remember that. At the time we thought it was an arcade game in the works because Arcades are still not dead in Japan. I guess the 6 is because the WiiU version is technically #5.
Only a few 3DS stages? I want all of them.
I assume that it has something to do with the DQ ports 3DS has been getting, as well as Dragon Quest XI and Dragon Quest Heroes coming to switch
If that's the case, I don't think that should be enough to consider a DQ character likely, to be honest.
I'm curius as to why you think Takamaru is such a contender. With all the other characters I can sorta see why they'd be pretty good contenders but I can't with Takamaru. Looking through the movesets on his thread still leads me to believe he'd fall short compared to so many other unique options for fighters.
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To be fair, he's only got one game to draw from. At least it's compared to what other retros like Duck Hunt had to work with. Finding a new and unique playstyle is hardest part for moveset making. They are fairly old to be honest.
Ah I missed that when i quickly brushed through the movesets. Okay I stand corrected he's got something to work with.
I want all three in Smash.
They'll probably start mid-April when the other E3 "rumours" begin.
I want Shantae more as well, and I think given her history with Nintendo, which include more than a single game, she probably "deserves" inclusion more, but Shovel Knight would probably be the one to get in first. Given his higher popularity, greater impact as a character and game, and, I believe, larger Japanese presence.
Like, the four most demanded Nintendo characters? That's a lot for being at very least.
And then just for that, we get Mario.
I kinda assumed that was already gonna happen, just with Marth.And then just for that, we get Mario.
Like literally a second Mario. Not like Dr. Mario or a different kind of Mario like Paper Mario, Metal Mario, Gold Mario, etc.
But a 2nd Mario on the CSS.
Yes!
Just because Sakurai has a good relationship with Takamaru's VA in Japan (he did that interview with him), and because Takamaru has been considered multiple times for Smash. Sakurai's reasoning for not including Takamaru is because he is not well known in the West, but his role as an AT has publicized him a bit. Also, Sakurai usually tries to include some retro representation, and with the exception of King K. Rool (remember, Smash introduced the K. Rool costume as a 'Retro revival' in Japanese and English) , I felt my list was missing a retro rep, so I added Takamaru.
I forgot to add Decidueye to that list. I think Decidueye is a strong contender for Smash, especially with the Stars rumor.
We might as well then call the franchise Super Fire Emblem Bros
I'm not sure what to think of Bandana Dee's chances, the metaphorical stars seem to be aligning for him and he's certainly important enough to be qualified for inclusion but at the same time I feel like there's also the possibility that he might have literally no chance at all due to Mr. Sakurai's personal biases (if he's still directing and/or otherwise heavily involved).
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Well, he has recency, importance and moveset potential, and is quite popular, so I think he has a deecent shot.
Zerp
said, Sakurai favors content from older games, which could be a problem for him (assuming Sakurai continues as the director).
That's true, my post is outdated, I said that before we knew about the whole Epic Yarn to Wooly World thing. Although, it doesn't change the fact that Kirby's still the only major Ninty franchise without a modern stage, it's not as bad now that we know one was planned, but, they could've just shafted Great Cave Offensive for insert modern stage here like they did here with Epic Yarn for Wooly World. Also, yeah, Kirby's Final Smash is from Return to Dreamland.
That is true. Still, if I remember correctly, every other franchise's (excluding retros and dormant series like Earthbound and F-Zero) new stages were from post-Brawl games.
Super Mario Galaxy was released a few months before Brawl, but aside from that one, you're actually right.
That's a good theory, but I think of 2 factors that might have prevented it to happen, besides the promotional stuff for FE Fates:We might as well then call the franchise Super Fire Emblem Bros
Speaking of FE characters, here is an interesting what-if scenario - How different would things have been in an alternate scenario where, instead of the final two characters being Bayonetta and Corrin, we got Bayonetta and Dixie (with of course the assumption in this scenario that Sakurai wasn't looking for an advertisement character and instead selected Dixie based off different reasoning)? I'll explain my theory below
The one thing that would most obviously stay the same is that the hype backlash following the Final Presentation in December 2015 would be high no matter what, naturally. However, I fully believe the extend of the hate Dixie would have gotten would have been significantly less than Corrin.
For one, Corrin was the 6th FE character and people back then already thought 5 was way too much (not to mention he the second FE character added as DLC). A pretty common sentiment among the fanbase was that the Donkey Kong franchise was underrepresented with two characters in Smash 4 (with Dixie and K. Rool being the DK characters with the highest demand). So overrepresentation would obviously not be a major complain with Dixie.
Another more important factor is that Dixie had more established history, familiarity within the Smash Bros. fanbase and fan demand than Corrin had. Given that one character was a major breakout character who made several appearances in her own home franchise (and a character people in the speculative community agreed made sense as a Smash Bros character) and another was a character whose game wasn't even released in the west yet, I'm sure the former would have been more accepted than the latter.
Another aspect to consider is how the K. Rool fanbase would have reacted. I believe the reaction would have been somewhat mixed. I don't think that many K. Rool supporters would have hated Dixie Kong's inclusion, but I definitely see many K. Rool supporters being disappointed that it wasn't K. Rool (but still happy for Dixie supporters) or happy that Dixie made it in (it is important to note that there is a lot more overlap between the K. Rool and Dixie fanbase than some people think). Either way, the large K. Rool support would still continue.
A final aspect to consider is what effect it would have on FE, especially in the speculative community. Whilst Fates would still sell impressively well in this scenario no matter what, would that have translated to Corrin, or even another FE character, getting massive support? Definitely not. Whilst there would be some people thinking that a 6th FE character would be appropriate, most people in the community would be all like "No! No More FE characters! Give other franchises a chance to shine!"(Also, based off what I know, Corrin isn't all that well-received among fans who played Fates so that should also be considered)
Why bother writing all this down? because I believed discussing this what-if scenario was interesting.
, and given how Sakurai took priority for the creation of brand-new newcomers (barren and which took a negligible amount of time to make) for this Smash iteration, Dixie could have not been in Sakurai's top of priority. and , which technically count like 2 characters in one, which is more attractive for the more casual audience.
