Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[OdnetninAges]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. King Hippo
2. Hades
3. Grima
4. Dr. Eggman / Dr. Wily team up in some sort of new mech.
5. Kraid

 

[Zinith]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Helmoroc King (How SSE never got a Zelda boss is baffling)
2. Kraid
3. Raphael Raven (with the moon stage and everything)
4. Metal Face
5. Hisstocrat

 

[WallyPalmer]

Honestly i really don't know enough about him to determine that. What does make him Crummy?

It seems like he feels he's entitled to thanks for "leaking", and he gets upset at people who piggyback off of his rumors or don't believe him. And he rants frequently about people spreading rumors despite him arguably doing the exact same thing. And anyone who calls him out for his spotty history is met with his intense anger. Also, pparently there is a group of people "in the know" about Smash, Vegetable Man himself being one, and they're not too happy with Divergebent spreading this information because it limits what new information may come. But of course, any of these people could be absolute liars, so there's no way of really knowing if there's consequences for these supposed "leaks".

 

[KMDP]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Shadow Queen
2. Mega Rayquaza
3. Zero 2
4. Too Lazy to name one, but a Legend of Zelda boss would be cool. Like Bongo Bongo.
5. Porky was pretty cool. Keep Porky.


Uh....

What is with the "jejeje"?

"Jejeje" = "Hehehe" in (Latin American) Spanish.

Now, as for bosses...

1. Death Egg Robot
2. Perfect Zygarde
3. Safer Sephiroth
4. Hades
5. Metal Gear REX

 

[RandomAce]

I’m gonna answer some things I wasn’t able to get to.

Skull Kid - The timing for his 3D re-release is perfect, and that mask/game are iconic in the world of Nintendo


Lycanroc - Where did the support base come from? It's a bare-bones Pokemon who's most popular form didn't even exist when the game was being planned

It began as early as 2016. When Midday and Midnight forms were revealed they were pushed pretty significantly by Game Freak as if they were important as much as the starters. Due to this, it could’ve been possible that Game Freak could’ve suggested Lycanroc to Sakurai because it was planned to be one of the big Gen 7 mons, not to mention that Lycanroc can use earth based powers which was something no one did in the roster yet (and there’s Isaac, which I’m hoping for, but they would still be as unique). If you look at when the Lycanroc support thread was made, it was first made in February of 2017, and this was when there was only Midday and Midnight forms, before Dusk was a thing.

It wasn’t until recently that the support for Lycanroc became notable because everyone was just talking about Mimikyu and Decidueye. Dusk just amplified Lycanroc’s big push, but the support was still there when there was only Midday and Midnight since it was that noticeable. It’s just in terms of Smash, no one batted an eye until now.

Hopefully that helps.
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Okay, also there was some people that were talking about a possible Gamescon reveal.

What’s so important about Gamescon?

 

[YoshiandToad]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. King Boo
2. Kraid
3. Vaati(giant eye form)
4. Kracko
5. Eggman

Let's see...

Sega has Bayo and Sonic
Capcom has Ryu and Mega Man
Namco has Pac-Man and reportedly Heihatchi
Konami has Snake and reportedly Simon Belmont

So... who will join Cloud? Geno? Terra? Black Mage? Slime? Anges? Olberic?

Lara Croft. Hopefully. About the only other Square owned character I could consider an actual gaming legend.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Shadow Queen
2. Mega Rayquaza
3. Zero 2
4. Too Lazy to name one, but a Legend of Zelda boss would be cool. Like Bongo Bongo.
5. Porky was pretty cool. Keep Porky.


Uh....

What is with the "jejeje"?

Petey Pirahna
Necrozma
Dark Matter
Manhandla
DJ Octavio

 

[FantasticMr.StarPit]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

5. Guardian (Zelda: BOTW)
4. Mecha Bowser (Super Mario Sunshine)
3. Kraid
2. Cyberdemon (Doom)
1. Hades...for now.

 

[blazefan519]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Shadow Queen
2. Mega Rayquaza
3. Zero 2
4. Too Lazy to name one, but a Legend of Zelda boss would be cool. Like Bongo Bongo.
5. Porky was pretty cool. Keep Porky.

1. Dark Matter
2. Giygas
3. Dr. Eggman
4. Primal Groundon and Kyogre
5. Draggadon

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Anyone from ARMS who isn't Twintelle. They'd probably all have really long range but laggy moves and idk if that's my playstyle :/

I do like a good zoning character like Duck Hunt so who knows?

Yep, same here.

 

[WallyPalmer]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Marx (Kirby)
2. The Ganon Blights (Zelda)
3. Zygarde (Pokemon)
4. Eggman (Sonic)
5. Porky (Mother)

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

It seems like he feels he's entitled to thanks for "leaking", and he gets upset at people who piggyback off of his rumors or don't believe him. And he rants frequently about people spreading rumors despite him arguably doing the exact same thing. And anyone who calls him out for his spotty history is met with his intense anger. Also, pparently there is a group of people "in the know" about Smash, Vegetable Man himself being one, and they're not too happy with Divergebent spreading this information because it limits what new information may come. But of course, any of these people could be absolute liars, so there's no way of really knowing if there's consequences for these supposed "leaks".

Geez. Sounds harsh.
(Who's Vegetable Man?)

 

[WallyPalmer]

Geez. Sounds harsh.
(Who's Vegetable Man?)

All nicknames for Vergeben. Just a bit of shade.

 

[Zinith]

So are we all in agreement that Ridley wasn't too big, but Kraid is?

 

[Pyra]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Dr. Robotnik
2. Exor (hahahaha)
3. Bongo Bongo
4. If not playable, then Skull Kid/Majora
5. Sephiroth. If only to hear that damn song in a Smash game.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Shadow Queen
2. Mega Rayquaza
3. Zero 2
4. Too Lazy to name one, but a Legend of Zelda boss would be cool. Like Bongo Bongo.
5. Porky was pretty cool. Keep Porky. Or Eggman.


Uh....

What is with the "jejeje"?

1. Mr. L
2. Guard Scorpion (iconic first boss from FFVII)
3. Porky
4. Zero-Two (Kirby 64)
5. Telethia the Endbringer (Xenoblade Chronicles X)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It seems like he feels he's entitled to thanks for "leaking", and he gets upset at people who piggyback off of his rumors or don't believe him. And he rants frequently about people spreading rumors despite him arguably doing the exact same thing. And anyone who calls him out for his spotty history is met with his intense anger. Also, pparently there is a group of people "in the know" about Smash, Vegetable Man himself being one, and they're not too happy with Divergebent spreading this information because it limits what new information may come. But of course, any of these people could be absolute liars, so there's no way of really knowing if there's consequences for these supposed "leaks".

This shows why he's a crummy person.

Who cares if he feels entitled, honestly. It doesn't affect us at all. If he's right, fans get characters they want. If he's wrong, fans still get characters they want. It's just different fans. Nothing changes. He's an attention hog. Better to ignore anything besides his leaks and if they're worth looking at. The information among the leaks is important. What's not is his attitude.

 

[Cosmic77]

So are we all in agreement that Ridley wasn't too big, but Kraid is?

Even if Kraid was Samus-sized, he'd still have to overcome his "unique" physique. Maybe if he hit the treadmills.

 

[SquashiniKun]

Let's see...

Sega has Bayo and Sonic
Capcom has Ryu and Mega Man
Namco has Pac-Man and reportedly Heihatchi
Konami has Snake and reportedly Simon Belmont

So... who will join Cloud? Geno? Terra? Black Mage? Slime? Anges? Olberic?

Either Sora, Geno or a Dragon Quest character

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

This shows why he's a crummy person.

Who cares if he feels entitled, honestly. It doesn't affect us at all. If he's right, fans get characters they want. If he's wrong, fans still get characters they want. It's just different fans. Nothing changes. He's an attention hog. Better to ignore anything besides his leaks and if they're worth looking at. The information among the leaks is important. What's not is his attitude.

Yeah. Agreeable.

 

[Zinith]

Even if Kraid was Samus-sized, he'd still have to overcome his "unique" physique. Maybe if he hit the treadmills.

You might want to remind the King K. Rool fans about that

 

[Pyra]

You might want to remind the King K. Rool fans about that

we need more fat characters

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Shadow Queen
2. Mega Rayquaza
3. Zero 2
4. Too Lazy to name one, but a Legend of Zelda boss would be cool. Like Bongo Bongo.
5. Porky was pretty cool. Keep Porky. Or Eggman.

1. Heavy Lobster
2. Dr. Wily
3. Dr. Eggman
4. Thanatos. Or Pandora, if she's not playable.
5. Dracula (if Simon's in)

Geez. Sounds harsh.
(Who's Vegetable Man?)

You know what they say, he who fights monsters may live long enough to become one himself.

So are we all in agreement that Ridley wasn't too big, but Kraid is?

Basically, yeah. Super Metroid did a fakeout with a miniature fake one, which certainly implies that he's nowhere near small now.

we need more fat characters

Besides Porky and Dr. Eggman, what else we got as options?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

we need more fat characters

Yes, yes we do.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Yes, yes we do.

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Ew. don't remind me of that Impa design.

 

[RouffWestie]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

Tatanga
Heavy Lobster
Rawk Hawk
Heavy Gunner
Dracula

 

[Zinith]

we need more fat characters

Characters like my boi and Kirby marginalize fat characters by having powerful metabolisms. K. Rool for Smash!!!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ew. don't remind me of that Impa design.

It's a great design, though. It's a good cross between her younger and older self. She looks quite inshape and ready to rumble, but also still has her older features to a degree. Best of both worlds. That, and we could use some heavyweight females, really~

 

[Zinith]

It's a great design, though. It's a good cross between her younger and older self. She looks quite inshape and ready to rumble, but also still has her older features to a degree. Best of both worlds. That, and we could use some heavyweight females, really~

Didn't that version of Impa inadvertently cause the problems in both Oracle games?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Lets play a fun game.
Not counting the final boss, lets say Ultimate had an Adventure Mode.
Name five bosses you would want.

1. Shadow Queen
2. Mega Rayquaza
3. Zero 2
4. Too Lazy to name one, but a Legend of Zelda boss would be cool. Like Bongo Bongo.
5. Porky was pretty cool. Keep Porky. Or Eggman.

1. Mecha Dragon from Mega Man 2 (with some of Ridley's Boss moves)
2. Krako
3. Giratina
4. Death Egg Robot (may as well take it all the way)
5. Wingo

 

[Deleted member]

Dracula

The start of the Dracula fight had better include the what is a man cutscene, complete with whichever character you fight him with doing Richter's lines.

 

[SquashiniKun]

YOUR REACTION
If we get an entire month where a newcomer would be revealed every week.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

It's a great design, though. It's a good cross between her younger and older self. She looks quite inshape and ready to rumble, but also still has her older features to a degree. Best of both worlds. That, and we could use some heavyweight females, really~

Lemme rephrase what i meant. It's a good design, I just don't personally like it. Impas always been shown as either a Ninja, or an Old Lady, But I have a few issues with this design

1. Is she even old? she looks way too young. No Wrinkles or anything.
2. She just looks like some random fat lady. Not, Well, Impa.

Could just be me, But i dunno.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Didn't that version of Impa inadvertently cause the problems in both Oracle games?

I think she was only taken over in Ages, but not Seasons. So only one, at best. She tried to help otherwise.

 

[Zinith]

The start of the Dracula fight had better include the what is a man cutscene, complete with whichever character you fight him with doing Richter's lines.

"YOSHI YOSHI" [You don't belong in this world]

"What IS a Yoshi? A miserable pile of SHY GUYS!!!"

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

It's a great design, though. It's a good cross between her younger and older self. She looks quite inshape and ready to rumble, but also still has her older features to a degree. Best of both worlds. That, and we could use some heavyweight females, really~

One could do worse by suggesting the (post-cursed) Zora Queen, though admittedly the priority for that one is rock-bottom low.

As an aside, are there any female characters that could qualify as "heavy" by simply having too much/heavy equipment they carry around? Otherwise the best compromise is having Fio and Eri making it as alts for Marco, with an optional Big Mode.

 

[FantasticMr.StarPit]

I think no leak is worth mentioning to begin with in my eyes. I like to think & share what content we hope to see without showing a rumor permeated with blocks of texts and fake pictures that at the end of the day means nothing. Granted, there's many in the community that loves to speculate, and that's fine by me. I wanna stay surprised, but no luck has it that everything will be spoiled near the game's release. (Like Zorak (from Space Ghost C2C-Cartoon Planet, "Oh well, what are you gonna do?") lol.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

YOUR REACTION
If we get an entire month where a newcomer would be revealed every week.

HELL YEAH BABY!!! Best way to make up for the drought that was last month!

bonus points if Elma and Bandana Dee (and maybe Simon) are among the newcomers revealed

 

[Cosmic77]

we need more fat characters

Pikachu would've been considered fat if he kept his 64 appearance, but modern times demanded that he slim up, set a good example for the kiddies, and occasionally appear on the side of a McDonald's Happy Meal box filled with fat-free milk and apple slices.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

The start of the Dracula fight had better include the what is a man cutscene, complete with whichever character you fight him with doing Richter's lines.

Kirby: Hii!
Dracula: IT IS NOT BY MY HAND I AM ONCE AGAIN GIVEN FLESH. I WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD BE HEU-MANS WHO WISHED TO PAY ME TRIBUTE.
Kirby: Pyo!
Dracula: PERHAPS THE SAME CAN BE SAID OF ALL RELIGIONS.
Kirby: *does a happy little dance*
Dracula: WHAT IS A MAN?! A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS!