Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Mc.Rad]

I hate that I was right about there possibly being no news this month, because I'm positive that there's going to be no EVO reveal at all this year. Which basically leaves me with the fact that there may possibly just be a thing on another Nintendo World Championship. Who knows exactly, it seems like that could be a legitimate thing to look towards

 

[Will]

Whats wrong with her personality? I don't play Xenoblade so I wouldn't know.

Why is personality all of a sudden a problem? It happened with Mimkyu, now with Elma.

 

[Murlough]

I hate that I was right about there possibly being no news this month, because I'm positive that there's going to be no EVO reveal at all this year. Which basically leaves me with the fact that there may possibly just be a thing on another Nintendo World Championship. Who knows exactly, it seems like that could be a legitimate thing to look towards

Daily reminder that they said "closer to December."

Dunno why people actually think that just meant "any moment now."

Word choice is important.

Why is personality all of a sudden a problem? It happened with Mimkyu, now with Elma.

I'm sorry. am I not allowed to ask a ***ing question?

There's no problem at all. I merely would like to know what they mean because I'm curious.

edit: Fun fact I've been using "theres" for several years of my life and its wrong rip. "There's" is the correct abbreviation for "there is." I hate apostrophes. :l

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Why is personality all of a sudden a problem? It happened with Mimkyu, now with Elma.

With Mimikyu, it's because of the anime, the anime shows Mimikyu as being a violent ************, which goes against the lonely nature which made Mimikyu popular in the first place

 

[Noipoi]

No news in July means we're definitely getting news in August!
...
R-Right?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

No news in July means we're definitely getting news in August!
...
R-Right?

"Smash Ultimate is cancelled, Sakurai spent too much money on Ridley's textures, we've become bankrupt"

 

[Icedragonadam]

No news in July means we're definitely getting news in August!
...
R-Right?

loz18, one of the people that leaked the Smash part of the E3 direct said there was suppose to be a direct in August.

As I said before perfect timing since Vesperia and Symphonia's 10th & 15th anniversary respectively is that month.

 

[Noipoi]

loz18, one of the people that leaked the Smash part of the E3 direct said there was suppose to be a direct in August.

As I said before perfect timing since Vesperia and Symphonia's 10th & 15th anniversary respectively is that month.

Not to mention Warioware Gold just came out...

 

[CodakTheWarrior]

Ocarina of Time: Hit the forest dungeon switch that tilts the room when i wasn't supposed too.
BOTW: Thunderblight Ganon

I can't really help you with OOT, but with BotW make sure you have the rubber armor, and Mipha's grace. The main thing to do is just master flurry attacks to the best of your abillity and have lots of weapons. Having the Master Sword also really helps, but it's understandable if you don't want to go for it. The battle is, tied with the DLC boss, the most difficult boss in the game I felt if you ask me, so just keep going at it and you'll get it eventually. Hope this helps!

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Wow. Didn't even try.

Here's everything wrong with this

Hatsune Miku? Haha, No way. I'm pretty sure she's a mascot for a music making program (correct me if I;m wrong)
That's like having Protogent in smash.

The Grammar here is great wow.

Magolor and Imagin are really odd too.

A just dance stage?...wow

If your gonna take a photo, at least focus the camera. gosh.

Hatsune Miku is actually owned by Sega, and has appeared in multiple music/rhythm based games. She's also massively popular in Japan.

Also, I'll say this about people saying the "leak" is fake because of the roster: people didn't believe the rosters of Melee, Brawl, and Sm4sh when they were actually leaked, mainly because they lacked characters that people saw as likely. If the "leak" is fake, it's not because it's roster doesn't contain mainly popular picks. You need to prepare ourselves for a roster without some popular picks such as K. Rool, Simon Belmont, Ashley, Geno, etc. or else you're going to face major disappointment.

Daily reminder that they said "closer to December."

Dunno why people actually think that just meant "any moment now."

Word choice is important.

I'm sorry. am I not allowed to ask a ***ing question?

There's no problem at all. I merely would like to know what they mean because I'm curious.

edit: Fun fact I've been using "theres" for several years of my life and its wrong rip. "There's" is the correct abbreviation for "there is." I hate apostrophes. :l

Literally every day is closer to December. Bill's words were vague, likely on purpose. If he meant we'd hear more around the game's release, he would've said something along those lines.

 

[staindgrey]

Also for Elma: “I didn’t saw[sic] her footage but I know she uses a mech as her final smash”

You didn’t see her in action, and you know this is true regardless?

Sure Jan.

Not that I ever really believe a leak, but depending on the source of the leak, that can totally happen.

For example. A concept artist who has nothing to do with actually coding anything could have been one of the people drawing up Elma's designs, and they know that the FS was going to incorporate a skell.

 

[Chandeelure]

loz18, one of the people that leaked the Smash part of the E3 direct said there was suppose to be a direct in August.

As I said before perfect timing since Vesperia and Symphonia's 10th & 15th anniversary respectively is that month.

Did loz really say that?

Cool.

 

[Knight Dude]

Why is personality all of a sudden a problem? It happened with Mimkyu, now with Elma.

Eh, some people get turned off by a characters traits that they don't like them. Not sure if that needs to be a real issue in Smash, since the characters don't do much talking.

Since narrative ain't ****, design and mechanics are the big elements I look to when talking about characters I like. But personality does still play a smaller part if it's someone I'm pretty familiar with.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Scorpion is going to get into Smash and I am going to verbally assault anyone who says otherwise.

Come at me, Bro. Get Fatality’d.

I need Scorpion to get his hands on Mario and Ryu so badly

 

[Blargg888]

E

Daily reminder that they said "closer to December."

Dunno why people actually think that just meant "any moment now."

Word choice is important.

The thing about it is that it can be interpreted as either "When we get close to December" a.k.a. (When we are near December, i.e. October and November), or it can be interpreted as "As we get closer to December" a.k.a. (Literally every day).

As it stands, we can't really know which one is correct until we actually get new information.

 

[Murlough]

Eh, some people get turned off by a characters traits that they don't like them. Not sure if that needs to be a real issue in Smash, since the characters don't do much talking.

Since narrative ain't ****, design and mechanics are the big elements I look to when talking about characters I like. But personality does still play a smaller part if it's someone I'm pretty familiar with.

This is pretty much my thought process, too. For characters I don't know much of though, personality helps me decide if a character is someone I'd support.

I don't even know where "problem" even came from.

E

The thing about it is that it can be interpreted as either "When we get close to December" a.k.a. (When we are near December, i.e. October and November), or it can be interpreted as "As we get closer to December" a.k.a. (Literally every day).

As it stands, we can't really know which one is correct until we actually get new information.

I fully understand that. This doesn't even need to be said.

My main point is that it doesn't make sense to expect reveals with every new thing that comes up. If we are going to do that anyway then there was no point in the interviewee to even answer the question.

I guess its my same issue with "leaks." No matter what gets said, everyone immediately dismisses it as fake and laughs at it, then if something is actually proven correct we get posters who end up with 16+ likes saying "lul people are gonna relook at the leaks who guessed something right."

Like no **** we are gonna relook at the leaks who actually got something right. Why ****ing wouldn't we?! If we just blindly ignore all information we get what is the point of even coming into this thread.

 

[domriver]

tehponycorn - I need my daily fix of fake leaks pl0x. 2 times a day. Got any more?

 

[Blargg888]

I fully understand that. This doesn't even need to be said.

If that's the case, then why did you say this?

Dunno why people actually think that just meant "any moment now."

 

[Murlough]

If that's the case, then why did you say this?

I edited my post. Feel free to read that ramble if you really wanna know.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

EVO needs to hurry up already (I need more Smash Ultimate gameplay and the end of Smash 4)...also maybe DBFighterZ

 

[Questionmark222]

Not to mention Warioware Gold just came out...

And it could make sense to reveal her after Ridley, since she's to the Japanese community what he is to the West...

Realizes that the golden rule of Smash speculation is to never try to guess or explain anything with patterns
Well, if there's a character reveal at EVO, we're obviously going into it completely blind.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I'll say this about people saying the "leak" is fake because of the roster: people didn't believe the rosters of Melee, Brawl, and Sm4sh when they were actually leaked, mainly because they lacked characters that people saw as likely. If the "leak" is fake, it's not because it's roster doesn't contain mainly popular picks. You need to prepare ourselves for a roster without some popular picks such as K. Rool, Simon Belmont, Ashley, Geno, etc. or else you're going to face major disappointment.

I'm not saying it's fake because of who's not there.
I'm saying it's fake because of who is.

Biggest red flag being Imajin.
Imajin is an old promotional character for Fuji TV for their Yume Koujou '87 event. He and the other playable characters do not belong to Nintendo like the enemies do. They belong to Fuji TV.
Fuji TV ever since the event has been less than eager to remind the public that it existed to the point the unaltered Doki Doki Panic has never been re-released.
WHY would they be willing to license out an old "failure" of theirs to Nintendo for Smash?

 

[SquashiniKun]

I'm not saying it's fake because of who's not there.
I'm saying it's fake because of who is.

Biggest red flag being Imajin.
Imajin is an old promotional character for Fuji TV for their Yume Koujou '87 event. He and the other playable characters do not belong to Nintendo like the enemies do. They belong to Fuji TV.
Fuji TV ever since the event has been less than eager to remind the public that it existed to the point the unaltered Doki Doki Panic has never been re-released.
WHY would they be willing to license out an old "failure" of theirs to Nintendo for Smash?

Ah, so you watched Gaijillionare's video too?

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

tehponycorn - I need my daily fix of fake leaks pl0x. 2 times a day. Got any more?

In fact, I do. I'm gonna cram 8 "leaks," 1 big session.

Spoiler: Session 1

Spoiler: "Leak" 1

Hello Everybody I have some info on Smash Ultimate thanks to my insiders on the smash team. I don't have info on all of the characters. So, here is all of the info I have.

There are 8 newcomers but I only know about 4. Chibi Robo, King K Rool, and Geno are in thanks to the ballot popularity and doability. Chorus Kids were also added thanks to him being considered for smash 4 and cut due to system limitations. The lack of those limitations gave the Chorus Kids a second chance. I also know that Fountain of Dreams and Wind Hill Zone will return from previous entries. The game will also have a subspace style adventure mode just with less cutscenes.

Standard fare, but honestly those four characters would make the roster for me. Simon Belmont would make it even better, and Joker would make it an absolute dream.

Spoiler: "Leak" 2

Nintendo Direct August 16th
>Yoshi's Woolly World coming to Switch. The perviously announced Yoshi game is getting reworked and will be out sometime next year.
>Mario Kart Tour for Mobile details. Coming in February.
>Mega Man X for Super Smash Bros Ultimate
>Joycon bundles coming. Features joycon set and a copy of Breath of the wild,Splatoon 2,Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Super Mario Odyssey. Coming in October.
There will be more news regarding other games. But this is all I can share for now.

And the direct "leaks" continue into August. What fun.

Can we just get a Direct already so this can end?

Spoiler: "Leak" 3

I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and the rest at release

I bolded/italicized the part about Dixie because I remember a comment about their being workplace rumors among the developers. mr. leakerman did a good job adding that to make this one sound more believable. Otherwise it's standard fare.

Spoiler: "Leak" 4

Hi guys, Smash Bros Ultimate leaks are everwhere. There (*They're) all fake. You most likely going to debunk this leak. Take this with a grain of salt. There is still yet to be 7 remaining fighters to be revealed. Before that, new assist trophies are, Funky Kong, Paper Mario, Chibi-Robo, and Springman.
> In July, ( Going by series ) a fighter is to be announced on July 31. The series is Donkey Kong.
> August at EVO, the series Mortal Kombat surprisingly will join the battle.
> September 14, Sonic character and Mario will be getting fighters.
> October 31, Castlevainia will be getting a fighter.
> November 50 facts extravaganza, Overwatch and F-zero will be getting fighters. Also that day later Overwatch will be announced for Switch.
That's the fighters, can you guess who they are.

After a little bit of research, I can (reluctantly) say that an Overwatch character is possible, as some of the characters were finished by November 2014. Despite that, Overwatch for Switch would've had to have been planned early on in the Switch's for a character to be incorporated into Smash, which, guess what, it likely hasn't. A senior game producer for Overwatch stated that right now they're focusing on the live game (on PC, Xbox One, and PS4), and that a Switch port would complicate things). So unless Blizzard has a top-secret team working on a port, or Blizzard's multiple statements about how a Switch port would be difficult are lies, Overwatch likely isn't happening. Regardless, this leak presents an interesting roster with Overwatch and Mortal Kombat over other third parties. It has a kill switch soon, so we'll know about the veracity of this one soon.

Spoiler: "Leak" 5

Okay, so I have a source working on Smash Ultimate. He knows who some of the newcomers are gonna be, and wishes to remain anonymous. He didn't elaborate a great ton on what a lot of these characters can do, so take some of these things with a grain of salt.

First up, there are, in total, six new fighters in Smash Ultimate not counting the Echo Fighters. These characters are Simon Belmont, Ridley, Inklings, King K. Rool, Waddle Dee, and Geno.

Waddle Dee is specifically Bandana Dee. He got in thanks to having a highly unique and creative moveset, yet very easy to work with. A lot of inspiration came from a couple of Kirby's moves without being derived from him (for example, Kirby's jab is given to Waddle Dee, except he uses a spear when doing so). Waddle Dee's attacks do have sweet spots.

King K. Rool was a difficult character to come up with a unique and effective moveset for, and even taking into account all of his appearances in the DKC franchise, still required some creative liberties in order to make him effective. My source expects him to be one of the last characters to be revealed, if not the last one due to some necessary tweaking to make him work.

He doesn't know much about Simon Belmont or Geno outside of the fact that both fighters are going to be quite technical. He does know, however, that Belmont's costumes are going to be inspired by the wardrobes of the other main characters in the Castlevania series.

He has no knowledge as to how many echo fighters that there will be, nor who is going to get in. All he does know is that there's going to be more echo fighters to show off, and that they will likely be added in based on the Smash Ballot results.

A couple characters were planned but ultimately cut either for licensing issues or due to time constraints. The only notable omission that my source is aware of is Heihachi.

No DLC is planned. However, if we do get any, expect to see Heihachi, and presumably a few other of these cut characters.

Sing it with me:

Spoiler: "Leak" 6

> At EVO, the full roster will be revealed. Except the Echo's and Newcomers that aren't revealed yet.
> I work with the team to create Smash.
> There is 2 characters that got cut from the roster.
> Tails, and Captain Toad
> This is the full roster
> Echo fighters
> Louie, and Glass Joe
> Fighters are
> Hades
> King K Rool
> Springman, Yes the creator said he might not appear in smash, but they have been working really hard on him. He will be announced at EVO
> Geno
> Tracer from Overwatch, with the announcement of Overwatch Switch.
> Take this with a grain of salt
> Assist trophies are
> Simon Belmont, Rabbids, Paper Mario, Funky Kong, Alm, Twintelle, Magnus, Sylux, Deciueye, and Prince Fluff.

Another EVO leak claiming that the full ****ing roster is going to be revealed at EVO. I find this one hard to believe.

Spoiler: "Leak" 7

I work on the team for Smash. Take this with a grain of salt.
Newcomers are
> Hades due to ballot
> King K Rool do to ballot
> Springman, I know the creator said he might not be in Smash, but Sakuria has been working hard
> Geno due to ballot
> Tracer for no reasone, prob due to Overwatch coming to Switch soon.
> Echo
> Louie and Mrs. Pac-Man
> Assist trophies, are Belmont, Rabbids, Chibi-Robo, Paper Mario, Alm, Funky Kong, and Captain Toad.

A near repeat of "Leak" 6, but the echoes are different so I'm reluctantly including it. Tracer is the flavor of the week.

Spoiler: "Leak" 8

There's a Smash Direct coming in September.

During the trailer, they're going to rapid fire through all 6 remaining echos, for a total of 9 echos in the game.

The Echoes are:

• Ninten
• Black Shadow
• Dark Meta Knight
• Shadow
• Dark Samus
• Dry Bowser

The roster is very small, so they're padding it out with echos to make it look "normal" sized for a Smash game.

I'm not saying it's fake because of who's not there.
I'm saying it's fake because of who is.

Biggest red flag being Imajin.
Imajin is an old promotional character for Fuji TV for their Yume Koujou '87 event. He and the other playable characters do not belong to Nintendo like the enemies do. They belong to Fuji TV.
Fuji TV ever since the event has been less than eager to remind the public that it existed to the point the unaltered Doki Doki Panic has never been re-released.
WHY would they be willing to license out an old "failure" of theirs to Nintendo for Smash?

That's a fair point, but there's always the possibility that they had a change or heart, or Sakurai really wanted him and managed to convince them, or a bevy of other potential reasons. The weird thing about this Smash Bros. is that a lot of different characters are on the table, even if they're near impossible.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't doubt nor believe that this "leak" is true. Either way I don't care.

On another note, how popular in Mortal Kombat in Japan?

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

In fact, I do. I'm gonna cram 8 "leaks," 1 big session.

Spoiler: Session 1

Spoiler: "Leak" 1

Hello Everybody I have some info on Smash Ultimate thanks to my insiders on the smash team. I don't have info on all of the characters. So, here is all of the info I have.

There are 8 newcomers but I only know about 4. Chibi Robo, King K Rool, and Geno are in thanks to the ballot popularity and doability. Chorus Kids were also added thanks to him being considered for smash 4 and cut due to system limitations. The lack of those limitations gave the Chorus Kids a second chance. I also know that Fountain of Dreams and Wind Hill Zone will return from previous entries. The game will also have a subspace style adventure mode just with less cutscenes.

Standard fare, but honestly those four characters would make the roster for me. Simon Belmont would make it even better, and Joker would make it an absolute dream.

Spoiler: "Leak" 2

Nintendo Direct August 16th
>Yoshi's Woolly World coming to Switch. The perviously announced Yoshi game is getting reworked and will be out sometime next year.
>Mario Kart Tour for Mobile details. Coming in February.
>Mega Man X for Super Smash Bros Ultimate
>Joycon bundles coming. Features joycon set and a copy of Breath of the wild,Splatoon 2,Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Super Mario Odyssey. Coming in October.
There will be more news regarding other games. But this is all I can share for now.

And the direct "leaks" continue into August. What fun.

Can we just get a Direct already so this can end?

Spoiler: "Leak" 3

I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and the rest at release

I bolded/italicized the part about Dixie because I remember a comment about their being workplace rumors among the developers. mr. leakerman did a good job adding that to make this one sound more believable. Otherwise it's standard fare.

Spoiler: "Leak" 4

Hi guys, Smash Bros Ultimate leaks are everwhere. There (*They're) all fake. You most likely going to debunk this leak. Take this with a grain of salt. There is still yet to be 7 remaining fighters to be revealed. Before that, new assist trophies are, Funky Kong, Paper Mario, Chibi-Robo, and Springman.
> In July, ( Going by series ) a fighter is to be announced on July 31. The series is Donkey Kong.
> August at EVO, the series Mortal Kombat surprisingly will join the battle.
> September 14, Sonic character and Mario will be getting fighters.
> October 31, Castlevainia will be getting a fighter.
> November 50 facts extravaganza, Overwatch and F-zero will be getting fighters. Also that day later Overwatch will be announced for Switch.
That's the fighters, can you guess who they are.

After a little bit of research, I can (reluctantly) say that an Overwatch character is possible, as some of the characters were finished by November 2014. Despite that, Overwatch for Switch would've had to have been planned early on in the Switch's for a character to be incorporated into Smash, which, guess what, it likely hasn't. A senior game producer for Overwatch stated that right now they're focusing on the live game (on PC, Xbox One, and PS4), and that a Switch port would complicate things). So unless Blizzard has a top-secret team working on a port, or Blizzard's multiple statements about how a Switch port would be difficult are lies, Overwatch likely isn't happening. Regardless, this leak presents an interesting roster with Overwatch and Mortal Kombat over other third parties. It has a kill switch soon, so we'll know about the veracity of this one soon.

Spoiler: "Leak" 5

Okay, so I have a source working on Smash Ultimate. He knows who some of the newcomers are gonna be, and wishes to remain anonymous. He didn't elaborate a great ton on what a lot of these characters can do, so take some of these things with a grain of salt.

First up, there are, in total, six new fighters in Smash Ultimate not counting the Echo Fighters. These characters are Simon Belmont, Ridley, Inklings, King K. Rool, Waddle Dee, and Geno.

Waddle Dee is specifically Bandana Dee. He got in thanks to having a highly unique and creative moveset, yet very easy to work with. A lot of inspiration came from a couple of Kirby's moves without being derived from him (for example, Kirby's jab is given to Waddle Dee, except he uses a spear when doing so). Waddle Dee's attacks do have sweet spots.

King K. Rool was a difficult character to come up with a unique and effective moveset for, and even taking into account all of his appearances in the DKC franchise, still required some creative liberties in order to make him effective. My source expects him to be one of the last characters to be revealed, if not the last one due to some necessary tweaking to make him work.

He doesn't know much about Simon Belmont or Geno outside of the fact that both fighters are going to be quite technical. He does know, however, that Belmont's costumes are going to be inspired by the wardrobes of the other main characters in the Castlevania series.

He has no knowledge as to how many echo fighters that there will be, nor who is going to get in. All he does know is that there's going to be more echo fighters to show off, and that they will likely be added in based on the Smash Ballot results.

A couple characters were planned but ultimately cut either for licensing issues or due to time constraints. The only notable omission that my source is aware of is Heihachi.

No DLC is planned. However, if we do get any, expect to see Heihachi, and presumably a few other of these cut characters.

Sing it with me:

Spoiler: "Leak" 6

> At EVO, the full roster will be revealed. Except the Echo's and Newcomers that aren't revealed yet.
> I work with the team to create Smash.
> There is 2 characters that got cut from the roster.
> Tails, and Captain Toad
> This is the full roster
> Echo fighters
> Louie, and Glass Joe
> Fighters are
> Hades
> King K Rool
> Springman, Yes the creator said he might not appear in smash, but they have been working really hard on him. He will be announced at EVO
> Geno
> Tracer from Overwatch, with the announcement of Overwatch Switch.
> Take this with a grain of salt
> Assist trophies are
> Simon Belmont, Rabbids, Paper Mario, Funky Kong, Alm, Twintelle, Magnus, Sylux, Deciueye, and Prince Fluff.

Another EVO leak claiming that the full ****ing roster is going to be revealed at EVO. I find this one hard to believe.

Spoiler: "Leak" 7

I work on the team for Smash. Take this with a grain of salt.
Newcomers are
> Hades due to ballot
> King K Rool do to ballot
> Springman, I know the creator said he might not be in Smash, but Sakuria has been working hard
> Geno due to ballot
> Tracer for no reasone, prob due to Overwatch coming to Switch soon.
> Echo
> Louie and Mrs. Pac-Man
> Assist trophies, are Belmont, Rabbids, Chibi-Robo, Paper Mario, Alm, Funky Kong, and Captain Toad.

A near repeat of "Leak" 6, but the echoes are different so I'm reluctantly including it. Tracer is the flavor of the week.

Spoiler: "Leak" 8

There's a Smash Direct coming in September.

During the trailer, they're going to rapid fire through all 6 remaining echos, for a total of 9 echos in the game.

The Echoes are:

• Ninten
• Black Shadow
• Dark Meta Knight
• Shadow
• Dark Samus
• Dry Bowser

The roster is very small, so they're padding it out with echos to make it look "normal" sized for a Smash game.

But mooooooooooom I'm too lazy to read several paragraphs!

 

[SlickWylde]

loz18, one of the people that leaked the Smash part of the E3 direct said there was suppose to be a direct in August.

As I said before perfect timing since Vesperia and Symphonia's 10th & 15th anniversary respectively is that month.

I wouldn't recommend using anniversaries to predict Nintendo announcements. There could be a coincidental direct, but there isn't really any correlation (based on history) between directs and anniversaries.

 

[Cosmic77]

In fact, I do. I'm gonna cram 8 "leaks," 1 big session.

Spoiler: Session 1

Spoiler: "Leak" 1

Hello Everybody I have some info on Smash Ultimate thanks to my insiders on the smash team. I don't have info on all of the characters. So, here is all of the info I have.

There are 8 newcomers but I only know about 4. Chibi Robo, King K Rool, and Geno are in thanks to the ballot popularity and doability. Chorus Kids were also added thanks to him being considered for smash 4 and cut due to system limitations. The lack of those limitations gave the Chorus Kids a second chance. I also know that Fountain of Dreams and Wind Hill Zone will return from previous entries. The game will also have a subspace style adventure mode just with less cutscenes.

Standard fare, but honestly those four characters would make the roster for me. Simon Belmont would make it even better, and Joker would make it an absolute dream.

Spoiler: "Leak" 2

Nintendo Direct August 16th
>Yoshi's Woolly World coming to Switch. The perviously announced Yoshi game is getting reworked and will be out sometime next year.
>Mario Kart Tour for Mobile details. Coming in February.
>Mega Man X for Super Smash Bros Ultimate
>Joycon bundles coming. Features joycon set and a copy of Breath of the wild,Splatoon 2,Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Super Mario Odyssey. Coming in October.
There will be more news regarding other games. But this is all I can share for now.

And the direct "leaks" continue into August. What fun.

Can we just get a Direct already so this can end?

Spoiler: "Leak" 3

I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and the rest at release

I bolded/italicized the part about Dixie because I remember a comment about their being workplace rumors among the developers. mr. leakerman did a good job adding that to make this one sound more believable. Otherwise it's standard fare.

Spoiler: "Leak" 4

Hi guys, Smash Bros Ultimate leaks are everwhere. There (*They're) all fake. You most likely going to debunk this leak. Take this with a grain of salt. There is still yet to be 7 remaining fighters to be revealed. Before that, new assist trophies are, Funky Kong, Paper Mario, Chibi-Robo, and Springman.
> In July, ( Going by series ) a fighter is to be announced on July 31. The series is Donkey Kong.
> August at EVO, the series Mortal Kombat surprisingly will join the battle.
> September 14, Sonic character and Mario will be getting fighters.
> October 31, Castlevainia will be getting a fighter.
> November 50 facts extravaganza, Overwatch and F-zero will be getting fighters. Also that day later Overwatch will be announced for Switch.
That's the fighters, can you guess who they are.

After a little bit of research, I can (reluctantly) say that an Overwatch character is possible, as some of the characters were finished by November 2014. Despite that, Overwatch for Switch would've had to have been planned early on in the Switch's for a character to be incorporated into Smash, which, guess what, it likely hasn't. A senior game producer for Overwatch stated that right now they're focusing on the live game (on PC, Xbox One, and PS4), and that a Switch port would complicate things). So unless Blizzard has a top-secret team working on a port, or Blizzard's multiple statements about how a Switch port would be difficult are lies, Overwatch likely isn't happening. Regardless, this leak presents an interesting roster with Overwatch and Mortal Kombat over other third parties. It has a kill switch soon, so we'll know about the veracity of this one soon.

Spoiler: "Leak" 5

Okay, so I have a source working on Smash Ultimate. He knows who some of the newcomers are gonna be, and wishes to remain anonymous. He didn't elaborate a great ton on what a lot of these characters can do, so take some of these things with a grain of salt.

First up, there are, in total, six new fighters in Smash Ultimate not counting the Echo Fighters. These characters are Simon Belmont, Ridley, Inklings, King K. Rool, Waddle Dee, and Geno.

Waddle Dee is specifically Bandana Dee. He got in thanks to having a highly unique and creative moveset, yet very easy to work with. A lot of inspiration came from a couple of Kirby's moves without being derived from him (for example, Kirby's jab is given to Waddle Dee, except he uses a spear when doing so). Waddle Dee's attacks do have sweet spots.

King K. Rool was a difficult character to come up with a unique and effective moveset for, and even taking into account all of his appearances in the DKC franchise, still required some creative liberties in order to make him effective. My source expects him to be one of the last characters to be revealed, if not the last one due to some necessary tweaking to make him work.

He doesn't know much about Simon Belmont or Geno outside of the fact that both fighters are going to be quite technical. He does know, however, that Belmont's costumes are going to be inspired by the wardrobes of the other main characters in the Castlevania series.

He has no knowledge as to how many echo fighters that there will be, nor who is going to get in. All he does know is that there's going to be more echo fighters to show off, and that they will likely be added in based on the Smash Ballot results.

A couple characters were planned but ultimately cut either for licensing issues or due to time constraints. The only notable omission that my source is aware of is Heihachi.

No DLC is planned. However, if we do get any, expect to see Heihachi, and presumably a few other of these cut characters.

Sing it with me:

Spoiler: "Leak" 6

> At EVO, the full roster will be revealed. Except the Echo's and Newcomers that aren't revealed yet.
> I work with the team to create Smash.
> There is 2 characters that got cut from the roster.
> Tails, and Captain Toad
> This is the full roster
> Echo fighters
> Louie, and Glass Joe
> Fighters are
> Hades
> King K Rool
> Springman, Yes the creator said he might not appear in smash, but they have been working really hard on him. He will be announced at EVO
> Geno
> Tracer from Overwatch, with the announcement of Overwatch Switch.
> Take this with a grain of salt
> Assist trophies are
> Simon Belmont, Rabbids, Paper Mario, Funky Kong, Alm, Twintelle, Magnus, Sylux, Deciueye, and Prince Fluff.

Another EVO leak claiming that the full ****ing roster is going to be revealed at EVO. I find this one hard to believe.

Spoiler: "Leak" 7

I work on the team for Smash. Take this with a grain of salt.
Newcomers are
> Hades due to ballot
> King K Rool do to ballot
> Springman, I know the creator said he might not be in Smash, but Sakuria has been working hard
> Geno due to ballot
> Tracer for no reasone, prob due to Overwatch coming to Switch soon.
> Echo
> Louie and Mrs. Pac-Man
> Assist trophies, are Belmont, Rabbids, Chibi-Robo, Paper Mario, Alm, Funky Kong, and Captain Toad.

A near repeat of "Leak" 6, but the echoes are different so I'm reluctantly including it. Tracer is the flavor of the week.

Spoiler: "Leak" 8

There's a Smash Direct coming in September.

During the trailer, they're going to rapid fire through all 6 remaining echos, for a total of 9 echos in the game.

The Echoes are:

• Ninten
• Black Shadow
• Dark Meta Knight
• Shadow
• Dark Samus
• Dry Bowser

The roster is very small, so they're padding it out with echos to make it look "normal" sized for a Smash game.

*sigh*

K. Rool has gotten in so many fake leaks that I'm almost starting to wish Sakurai would purposely leave him out just so he could throw us for a loop.

Almost.

 

[staindgrey]

*sigh*

K. Rool has gotten in so many fake leaks that I'm almost starting to wish Sakurai would purposely leave him out just so he could throw us for a loop.

Almost.

Or confirm him right now so every fake leak can claim to be real simultaneously.

 

[Mc.Rad]

Spoiler: "Leak" 3

I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Man, My favorite Character... Okami

 

[Noipoi]

*sigh*

K. Rool has gotten in so many fake leaks that I'm almost starting to wish Sakurai would purposely leave him out just so he could throw us for a loop.

Almost.

Let me preface this by saying I like K Rool, and i'd like it if he got in.
But the only reason he's considered a 'lock' is because people want him.
Could he get in because of fan outcry? Sure. It worked for Ridley.
But he's still got some hurdles to jump and he's by no means guaranteed.

 

[domriver]

In fact, I do. I'm gonna cram 8 "leaks," 1 big session.

Spoiler: Session 1

Spoiler: "Leak" 1

Hello Everybody I have some info on Smash Ultimate thanks to my insiders on the smash team. I don't have info on all of the characters. So, here is all of the info I have.

There are 8 newcomers but I only know about 4. Chibi Robo, King K Rool, and Geno are in thanks to the ballot popularity and doability. Chorus Kids were also added thanks to him being considered for smash 4 and cut due to system limitations. The lack of those limitations gave the Chorus Kids a second chance. I also know that Fountain of Dreams and Wind Hill Zone will return from previous entries. The game will also have a subspace style adventure mode just with less cutscenes.

Standard fare, but honestly those four characters would make the roster for me. Simon Belmont would make it even better, and Joker would make it an absolute dream.

Spoiler: "Leak" 2

Nintendo Direct August 16th
>Yoshi's Woolly World coming to Switch. The perviously announced Yoshi game is getting reworked and will be out sometime next year.
>Mario Kart Tour for Mobile details. Coming in February.
>Mega Man X for Super Smash Bros Ultimate
>Joycon bundles coming. Features joycon set and a copy of Breath of the wild,Splatoon 2,Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Super Mario Odyssey. Coming in October.
There will be more news regarding other games. But this is all I can share for now.

And the direct "leaks" continue into August. What fun.

Can we just get a Direct already so this can end?

Spoiler: "Leak" 3

I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and the rest at release

I bolded/italicized the part about Dixie because I remember a comment about their being workplace rumors among the developers. mr. leakerman did a good job adding that to make this one sound more believable. Otherwise it's standard fare.

Spoiler: "Leak" 4

Hi guys, Smash Bros Ultimate leaks are everwhere. There (*They're) all fake. You most likely going to debunk this leak. Take this with a grain of salt. There is still yet to be 7 remaining fighters to be revealed. Before that, new assist trophies are, Funky Kong, Paper Mario, Chibi-Robo, and Springman.
> In July, ( Going by series ) a fighter is to be announced on July 31. The series is Donkey Kong.
> August at EVO, the series Mortal Kombat surprisingly will join the battle.
> September 14, Sonic character and Mario will be getting fighters.
> October 31, Castlevainia will be getting a fighter.
> November 50 facts extravaganza, Overwatch and F-zero will be getting fighters. Also that day later Overwatch will be announced for Switch.
That's the fighters, can you guess who they are.

After a little bit of research, I can (reluctantly) say that an Overwatch character is possible, as some of the characters were finished by November 2014. Despite that, Overwatch for Switch would've had to have been planned early on in the Switch's for a character to be incorporated into Smash, which, guess what, it likely hasn't. A senior game producer for Overwatch stated that right now they're focusing on the live game (on PC, Xbox One, and PS4), and that a Switch port would complicate things). So unless Blizzard has a top-secret team working on a port, or Blizzard's multiple statements about how a Switch port would be difficult are lies, Overwatch likely isn't happening. Regardless, this leak presents an interesting roster with Overwatch and Mortal Kombat over other third parties. It has a kill switch soon, so we'll know about the veracity of this one soon.

Spoiler: "Leak" 5

Okay, so I have a source working on Smash Ultimate. He knows who some of the newcomers are gonna be, and wishes to remain anonymous. He didn't elaborate a great ton on what a lot of these characters can do, so take some of these things with a grain of salt.

First up, there are, in total, six new fighters in Smash Ultimate not counting the Echo Fighters. These characters are Simon Belmont, Ridley, Inklings, King K. Rool, Waddle Dee, and Geno.

Waddle Dee is specifically Bandana Dee. He got in thanks to having a highly unique and creative moveset, yet very easy to work with. A lot of inspiration came from a couple of Kirby's moves without being derived from him (for example, Kirby's jab is given to Waddle Dee, except he uses a spear when doing so). Waddle Dee's attacks do have sweet spots.

King K. Rool was a difficult character to come up with a unique and effective moveset for, and even taking into account all of his appearances in the DKC franchise, still required some creative liberties in order to make him effective. My source expects him to be one of the last characters to be revealed, if not the last one due to some necessary tweaking to make him work.

He doesn't know much about Simon Belmont or Geno outside of the fact that both fighters are going to be quite technical. He does know, however, that Belmont's costumes are going to be inspired by the wardrobes of the other main characters in the Castlevania series.

He has no knowledge as to how many echo fighters that there will be, nor who is going to get in. All he does know is that there's going to be more echo fighters to show off, and that they will likely be added in based on the Smash Ballot results.

A couple characters were planned but ultimately cut either for licensing issues or due to time constraints. The only notable omission that my source is aware of is Heihachi.

No DLC is planned. However, if we do get any, expect to see Heihachi, and presumably a few other of these cut characters.

Sing it with me:

Spoiler: "Leak" 6

> At EVO, the full roster will be revealed. Except the Echo's and Newcomers that aren't revealed yet.
> I work with the team to create Smash.
> There is 2 characters that got cut from the roster.
> Tails, and Captain Toad
> This is the full roster
> Echo fighters
> Louie, and Glass Joe
> Fighters are
> Hades
> King K Rool
> Springman, Yes the creator said he might not appear in smash, but they have been working really hard on him. He will be announced at EVO
> Geno
> Tracer from Overwatch, with the announcement of Overwatch Switch.
> Take this with a grain of salt
> Assist trophies are
> Simon Belmont, Rabbids, Paper Mario, Funky Kong, Alm, Twintelle, Magnus, Sylux, Deciueye, and Prince Fluff.

Another EVO leak claiming that the full ****ing roster is going to be revealed at EVO. I find this one hard to believe.

Spoiler: "Leak" 7

I work on the team for Smash. Take this with a grain of salt.
Newcomers are
> Hades due to ballot
> King K Rool do to ballot
> Springman, I know the creator said he might not be in Smash, but Sakuria has been working hard
> Geno due to ballot
> Tracer for no reasone, prob due to Overwatch coming to Switch soon.
> Echo
> Louie and Mrs. Pac-Man
> Assist trophies, are Belmont, Rabbids, Chibi-Robo, Paper Mario, Alm, Funky Kong, and Captain Toad.

A near repeat of "Leak" 6, but the echoes are different so I'm reluctantly including it. Tracer is the flavor of the week.

Spoiler: "Leak" 8

There's a Smash Direct coming in September.

During the trailer, they're going to rapid fire through all 6 remaining echos, for a total of 9 echos in the game.

The Echoes are:

• Ninten
• Black Shadow
• Dark Meta Knight
• Shadow
• Dark Samus
• Dry Bowser

The roster is very small, so they're padding it out with echos to make it look "normal" sized for a Smash game.

That's a fair point, but there's always the possibility that they had a change or heart, or Sakurai really wanted him and managed to convince them, or a bevy of other potential reasons. The weird thing about this Smash Bros. is that a lot of different characters are on the table, even if they're near impossible.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't doubt nor believe that this "leak" is true. Either way I don't care.

On another note, how popular in Mortal Kombat in Japan?

LEAKS LEAKS LEAKSSSSSSSSSSS! lol Thanks. Ill re check before i hit the hay. maybe some more might be around LOL.

 

[RileyXY1]

Yeah. No character is guaranteed. Not even King K Rool and a Gen 7 Pokemon.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Looks like Tracer is the most recent Flavor of The Week(tm) character in leaks, with Reimu being last week’s. Either way I can’t believe leaks with them, without verifiable proof (videos, legit looking screens that aren’t blurred to all hell)

Also Dry Bowser...LOL

 

[prowler12]

In fact, I do. I'm gonna cram 8 "leaks," 1 big session.

Spoiler: Session 1

Spoiler: "Leak" 1

Hello Everybody I have some info on Smash Ultimate thanks to my insiders on the smash team. I don't have info on all of the characters. So, here is all of the info I have.

There are 8 newcomers but I only know about 4. Chibi Robo, King K Rool, and Geno are in thanks to the ballot popularity and doability. Chorus Kids were also added thanks to him being considered for smash 4 and cut due to system limitations. The lack of those limitations gave the Chorus Kids a second chance. I also know that Fountain of Dreams and Wind Hill Zone will return from previous entries. The game will also have a subspace style adventure mode just with less cutscenes.

Standard fare, but honestly those four characters would make the roster for me. Simon Belmont would make it even better, and Joker would make it an absolute dream.

Spoiler: "Leak" 2

Nintendo Direct August 16th
>Yoshi's Woolly World coming to Switch. The perviously announced Yoshi game is getting reworked and will be out sometime next year.
>Mario Kart Tour for Mobile details. Coming in February.
>Mega Man X for Super Smash Bros Ultimate
>Joycon bundles coming. Features joycon set and a copy of Breath of the wild,Splatoon 2,Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Super Mario Odyssey. Coming in October.
There will be more news regarding other games. But this is all I can share for now.

And the direct "leaks" continue into August. What fun.

Can we just get a Direct already so this can end?

Spoiler: "Leak" 3

I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and the rest at release

I bolded/italicized the part about Dixie because I remember a comment about their being workplace rumors among the developers. mr. leakerman did a good job adding that to make this one sound more believable. Otherwise it's standard fare.

Spoiler: "Leak" 4

Hi guys, Smash Bros Ultimate leaks are everwhere. There (*They're) all fake. You most likely going to debunk this leak. Take this with a grain of salt. There is still yet to be 7 remaining fighters to be revealed. Before that, new assist trophies are, Funky Kong, Paper Mario, Chibi-Robo, and Springman.
> In July, ( Going by series ) a fighter is to be announced on July 31. The series is Donkey Kong.
> August at EVO, the series Mortal Kombat surprisingly will join the battle.
> September 14, Sonic character and Mario will be getting fighters.
> October 31, Castlevainia will be getting a fighter.
> November 50 facts extravaganza, Overwatch and F-zero will be getting fighters. Also that day later Overwatch will be announced for Switch.
That's the fighters, can you guess who they are.

After a little bit of research, I can (reluctantly) say that an Overwatch character is possible, as some of the characters were finished by November 2014. Despite that, Overwatch for Switch would've had to have been planned early on in the Switch's for a character to be incorporated into Smash, which, guess what, it likely hasn't. A senior game producer for Overwatch stated that right now they're focusing on the live game (on PC, Xbox One, and PS4), and that a Switch port would complicate things). So unless Blizzard has a top-secret team working on a port, or Blizzard's multiple statements about how a Switch port would be difficult are lies, Overwatch likely isn't happening. Regardless, this leak presents an interesting roster with Overwatch and Mortal Kombat over other third parties. It has a kill switch soon, so we'll know about the veracity of this one soon.

Spoiler: "Leak" 5

Okay, so I have a source working on Smash Ultimate. He knows who some of the newcomers are gonna be, and wishes to remain anonymous. He didn't elaborate a great ton on what a lot of these characters can do, so take some of these things with a grain of salt.

First up, there are, in total, six new fighters in Smash Ultimate not counting the Echo Fighters. These characters are Simon Belmont, Ridley, Inklings, King K. Rool, Waddle Dee, and Geno.

Waddle Dee is specifically Bandana Dee. He got in thanks to having a highly unique and creative moveset, yet very easy to work with. A lot of inspiration came from a couple of Kirby's moves without being derived from him (for example, Kirby's jab is given to Waddle Dee, except he uses a spear when doing so). Waddle Dee's attacks do have sweet spots.

King K. Rool was a difficult character to come up with a unique and effective moveset for, and even taking into account all of his appearances in the DKC franchise, still required some creative liberties in order to make him effective. My source expects him to be one of the last characters to be revealed, if not the last one due to some necessary tweaking to make him work.

He doesn't know much about Simon Belmont or Geno outside of the fact that both fighters are going to be quite technical. He does know, however, that Belmont's costumes are going to be inspired by the wardrobes of the other main characters in the Castlevania series.

He has no knowledge as to how many echo fighters that there will be, nor who is going to get in. All he does know is that there's going to be more echo fighters to show off, and that they will likely be added in based on the Smash Ballot results.

A couple characters were planned but ultimately cut either for licensing issues or due to time constraints. The only notable omission that my source is aware of is Heihachi.

No DLC is planned. However, if we do get any, expect to see Heihachi, and presumably a few other of these cut characters.

Sing it with me:

Spoiler: "Leak" 6

> At EVO, the full roster will be revealed. Except the Echo's and Newcomers that aren't revealed yet.
> I work with the team to create Smash.
> There is 2 characters that got cut from the roster.
> Tails, and Captain Toad
> This is the full roster
> Echo fighters
> Louie, and Glass Joe
> Fighters are
> Hades
> King K Rool
> Springman, Yes the creator said he might not appear in smash, but they have been working really hard on him. He will be announced at EVO
> Geno
> Tracer from Overwatch, with the announcement of Overwatch Switch.
> Take this with a grain of salt
> Assist trophies are
> Simon Belmont, Rabbids, Paper Mario, Funky Kong, Alm, Twintelle, Magnus, Sylux, Deciueye, and Prince Fluff.

Another EVO leak claiming that the full ****ing roster is going to be revealed at EVO. I find this one hard to believe.

Spoiler: "Leak" 7

I work on the team for Smash. Take this with a grain of salt.
Newcomers are
> Hades due to ballot
> King K Rool do to ballot
> Springman, I know the creator said he might not be in Smash, but Sakuria has been working hard
> Geno due to ballot
> Tracer for no reasone, prob due to Overwatch coming to Switch soon.
> Echo
> Louie and Mrs. Pac-Man
> Assist trophies, are Belmont, Rabbids, Chibi-Robo, Paper Mario, Alm, Funky Kong, and Captain Toad.

A near repeat of "Leak" 6, but the echoes are different so I'm reluctantly including it. Tracer is the flavor of the week.

Spoiler: "Leak" 8

There's a Smash Direct coming in September.

During the trailer, they're going to rapid fire through all 6 remaining echos, for a total of 9 echos in the game.

The Echoes are:

• Ninten
• Black Shadow
• Dark Meta Knight
• Shadow
• Dark Samus
• Dry Bowser

The roster is very small, so they're padding it out with echos to make it look "normal" sized for a Smash game.

That's a fair point, but there's always the possibility that they had a change or heart, or Sakurai really wanted him and managed to convince them, or a bevy of other potential reasons. The weird thing about this Smash Bros. is that a lot of different characters are on the table, even if they're near impossible.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't doubt nor believe that this "leak" is true. Either way I don't care.

On another note, how popular in Mortal Kombat in Japan?

with the amount talk about over watch in smash it might be true

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Scorpion would be nice, but Fulgore exists so my heart is taken.

Why not both? They're both iconic, awesome, full of "let's kick ass", and from major franchises.

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

"Take this with a grain of salt" should not be the follow up to "I work on Smash Ultimate". lmfao

 

[ned_ballad]

Tracer robbed Dry Bowser of his flavor of the week moment

Pros of Dry Bowser
- Has been the final boss of half a dozen Mario games
- Can easily re-use Bowser's animations
- Nintendo seems to love him and throws him into everything

 

[Deleted member]

Looks like Tracer is the most recent Flavor of The Week(tm) character in leaks, with Reimu being last week’s. Either way I can’t believe leaks with them, without verifiable proof (videos, legit looking screens that aren’t blurred to all hell)

Also Dry Bowser...LOL

Ooh.
Can I predict next week's character?

I doth decree that the next "Flavor of the Week" after Reimu and Tracer is Saber.

 

[DJ3DS]

I have a lot of time for people suggesting Dry Bowser as an echo.

I've always wanted him as a skin for Bowser. Seems an easy and cool thing to do.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

with the amount talk about over watch in smash it might be true

Likely not. 4chan "leaks" piggyback on each other, claiming similar or the same information to make their "leaks" seem more credible overall. We're only talking about it because they brought it up.

I'm just gonna paste this since it's hidden in the most recent session.

After a little bit of research, I can (reluctantly) say that an Overwatch character is possible, as some of the characters were finished by November 2014. Despite that, Overwatch for Switch would've had to have been planned early on in the Switch's for a character to be incorporated into Smash, which, guess what, it likely hasn't. A senior game producer for Overwatch stated that right now they're focusing on the live game (on PC, Xbox One, and PS4), and that a Switch port would complicate things). So unless Blizzard has had a top-secret team working on a port for a while now, or Blizzard's multiple statements about how a Switch port would be difficult are lies, Overwatch likely isn't happening.

Okay but seriously how popular is Mortal Kombat in Japan? Can I get an answer on that? I think America's "roster pick points" have been all but drained up with Ridley.