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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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https://smashboards.com/threads/in-...oshi-pikmin-and-animal-crossing-added.456277/

I've gone and added four new series into the comprehensive music list.

  • Donkey Kong
  • Yoshi
  • Pikmin
  • Animal Crossing
Also, I updated the list to include the new version of Snake Eater.

Here are some neat observations from the new listings.

  • IF WE COUNT EVERY TIME THE TUNE IS USED, THE SMASH BROS FRANCHISE HAS 8 VERSIONS OF THE DK JUNGLE THEME!
  • Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country Returns take up the majority of the DK music.
  • None of the Donkey Kong GB or GBA games have tracks
  • None of the Donkey Kong arcade games aside from the original have any tracks.
  • Yoshi's Island (Melee) is now counted as a Super Mario track as of Smash 4.
  • There are three tracks that are titled Yoshi's Island in some way.
  • Environmental Noises is awful and I hate it.
  • All of the vocal songs from the Pikmin franchise were cut in smash 4.
  • Pikmin takes up 50% of the franchises tracks. Pikmin 2 and 3 makes up the other 50%. It's an even split.
  • The only Animal Crossing tracks that are not remixed are K.K. Slider songs that appear on Saturday Nights.
  • Animal Crossing has significantly more remixes than original tracks.
  • Smash 4 gave us six Animal Crossing remixes which is a pretty large number compared to other series.

I added a joke in the list. Can you all find it?
 

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https://smashboards.com/threads/in-...oshi-pikmin-and-animal-crossing-added.456277/

I've gone and added four new series into the comprehensive music list.

  • Donkey Kong
  • Yoshi
  • Pikmin
  • Animal Crossing
Also, I updated the list to include the new version of Snake Eater.

Here are some neat observations from the new listings.

  • IF WE COUNT EVERY TIME THE TUNE IS USED, THE SMASH BROS FRANCHISE HAS 8 VERSIONS OF THE DK JUNGLE THEME!
  • Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country Returns take up the majority of the DK music.
  • None of the Donkey Kong GB or GBA games have tracks
  • None of the Donkey Kong arcade games aside from the original have any tracks.
  • Yoshi's Island (Melee) is now counted as a Super Mario track as of Smash 4.
  • There are three tracks that are titled Yoshi's Island in some way.
  • Environmental Noises is awful and I hate it.
  • All of the vocal songs from the Pikmin franchise were cut in smash 4.
  • Pikmin takes up 50% of the franchises tracks. Pikmin 2 and 3 makes up the other 50%. It's an even split.
  • The only Animal Crossing tracks that are not remixed are K.K. Slider songs that appear on Saturday Nights.
  • Animal Crossing has significantly more remixes than original tracks.
  • Smash 4 gave us six Animal Crossing remixes which is a pretty large number compared to other series.

I added a joke in the list. Can you all find it?
I kinda hate it that Yoshi only got the "sweet sounding" tracks and not stuff like the Underground or Castle themes...
 

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I found the joke! Environmental Noises is the greatest piece of music ever composed and there's no way anyone could hate it.
That isn't the joke.

It's fact.


Regardless the joke is in the actual list.
 
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I kinda hate it that Yoshi only got the "sweet sounding" tracks and not stuff like the Underground or Castle themes...
Hopefully they add The Yoshi Clan in Ultimate, the greatest Yoshi theme of all time :4pacman:
 

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I rarely ever used Peach in the past, but now with Daisy, i might give her a shot due to not having the ever so annoying "aah, did I win?" Peach victory taunt.
I kind of liked Melee's take on that victory pose (so darn cute and innocent tone just tops it) - but hey.

Like stated here though, it mostly seems to go back on to the preferences towards preserving uniqueness to characters fans are very fond of, VS pleasing big crowds that apparently don't share same sentiment, and then keeping them probably forever as such.

The gamble tends to favour the big crowd, but TBQH, when done repeatedly so up to this point with even more blatant addition, the clones aren't exactly going to win people over in the long time due how just little they have after them aside from feeling like copies of other characters compared to more appealing characters with stand-alone movesets, especially if they were merely driven on to be being received happily by their fans getting to play them in Smash, but nothing more.

So I guess it's bit like pandering to certain crowds with what seems rather safe and easy way to do so, but over time, doesn't age well due how they don't stay any more fresh compared to the original counterparts (unless balance patches), hence why the fanbases get less invested with them over time.

Brawl at least tried to avoid this problem, and I personally like the iteration of clones there more than what we received in Sm4sh, which just felt immensely bland and underwhelming in comparison, making the catering-to-fanbases part about them much more glaring and irksome to witness happening.
 

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https://smashboards.com/threads/in-...oshi-pikmin-and-animal-crossing-added.456277/

I've gone and added four new series into the comprehensive music list.

  • Donkey Kong
  • Yoshi
  • Pikmin
  • Animal Crossing
Also, I updated the list to include the new version of Snake Eater.

Here are some neat observations from the new listings.

  • IF WE COUNT EVERY TIME THE TUNE IS USED, THE SMASH BROS FRANCHISE HAS 8 VERSIONS OF THE DK JUNGLE THEME!
  • Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country Returns take up the majority of the DK music.
  • None of the Donkey Kong GB or GBA games have tracks
  • None of the Donkey Kong arcade games aside from the original have any tracks.
  • Yoshi's Island (Melee) is now counted as a Super Mario track as of Smash 4.
  • There are three tracks that are titled Yoshi's Island in some way.
  • Environmental Noises is awful and I hate it.
  • All of the vocal songs from the Pikmin franchise were cut in smash 4.
  • Pikmin takes up 50% of the franchises tracks. Pikmin 2 and 3 makes up the other 50%. It's an even split.
  • The only Animal Crossing tracks that are not remixed are K.K. Slider songs that appear on Saturday Nights.
  • Animal Crossing has significantly more remixes than original tracks.
  • Smash 4 gave us six Animal Crossing remixes which is a pretty large number compared to other series.

I added a joke in the list. Can you all find it?
Animal Crossing because it's a joke of a franchise :p
 

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You guys are exaggerating about the "drought of information." Rather than trying to look for clues and expect reveals from nothing how about waiting? Talking about how Dixie will be a clone or not and archives of 4chan garbage can only entertain you for so long.
You answered your own question about why we care about the info drought. We've been going through the same couple of topics for over a month. We need more information so we can talk about something even slightly new. We can't exactly wait either, unless you want this thread to die completely.

Also, what's the page limit for a thread here again? Is it 2500 or 3000? Either way, we're going to need another thread soon. I remember when we were at around page 1500 pre-E3. Oh how times change.
 
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So, I'll be honest here, since Sakurai stated that we won't expect a hefty amount of newcomers, I could "possibly" see 5 newcomers at best; 3 are Newcomers, and 2 are Echoes; if that's the case, what are the 5 characters that ya'll would like to see in Ultimate; (EDIT) ya'll can tweak it if you like

Me: Newcomers are K.Rool, Crash, & Simon Belmont.
Echoes are somewhat tricky to pick, but it'll be Dark Samus and... I guess Chrom.
 
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So, I'll be honest here, since Sakurai stated that we won't expect a hefty amount of newcomers, I could "possibly" see 5 newcomers at best; 3 are Newcomers, and 2 are Echoes; if that's the case, what are the 5 characters that ya'll would like to see in Ultimate;

Me: Newcomers are K.Rool, Crash, & Simon Belmont.
Echoes are somewhat tricky to pick, but it'll be Dark Samus and... I guess Chrom.
Mind if I tweak it a little? All assuming base roster btw

4 originals: Simon, Elma, Bandana Dee, Chorus Kids
1 Echo: Chrom
 
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Mind if I tweak it a little? All assuming base roster btw

4 originals: Simon, Elma, Bandana Dee, Chorus Kids
1 Echo: Chrom
Well if you were to replace 1 newcomer with an Echo fighter, who would it be?

On second thought, nah. It's just a preference who'll be in.
 
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So, I'll be honest here, since Sakurai stated that we won't expect a hefty amount of newcomers, I could "possibly" see 5 newcomers at best; 3 are Newcomers, and 2 are Echoes; if that's the case, what are the 5 characters that ya'll would like to see in Ultimate;

Me: Newcomers are K.Rool, Crash, & Simon Belmont.
Echoes are somewhat tricky to pick, but it'll be Dark Samus and... I guess Chrom.
Going with my three most wanted for unique, which would be Skull Kid, King K. Rool, and Geno.

For echoes, I'd go with Shadow and Dark Samus. I fully realize they could and should be unique like Dixie would hopefully be, but I'd have them as echoes. Dixie probably has enough fan demand to make it in as DLC while the other two don't, and I'd rather having something than nothing.
 

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So, I'll be honest here, since Sakurai stated that we won't expect a hefty amount of newcomers, I could "possibly" see 5 newcomers at best; 3 are Newcomers, and 2 are Echoes; if that's the case, what are the 5 characters that ya'll would like to see in Ultimate;

Me: Newcomers are K.Rool, Crash, & Simon Belmont.
Echoes are somewhat tricky to pick, but it'll be Dark Samus and... I guess Chrom.
Imma tweak it too.

Elma, Dixie, Impa and Krystal Bandana Dee as unique characters
And Octoling as an echo.

That being said I expect a couple more newcomers, at least 8 total that are unique
 
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So, I'll be honest here, since Sakurai stated that we won't expect a hefty amount of newcomers, I could "possibly" see 5 newcomers at best; 3 are Newcomers, and 2 are Echoes; if that's the case, what are the 5 characters that ya'll would like to see in Ultimate;

Me: Newcomers are K.Rool, Crash, & Simon Belmont.
Echoes are somewhat tricky to pick, but it'll be Dark Samus and... I guess Chrom.
Who would I like to see?
Newcomers: Dovahkiin, K.Rool, and Urbosa
Echoes: Tails (Sonic, minor change that he gets a Peach-like float) and Azura (Palutena) - or go with Chrom (Ike) if we need to stay within series.
 

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Crash in the base roster is unlikely. I definitely see him as a DLC character, but not the base game.

I stand firmly by my roster prediction, give or take 2-3 characters.
Ultimate + Predictions Roster.png
I'm largely working under the same assumptions that not too many newcomers is a half-truth, the ballot is being used, and Mii Costumes were a concession.

The roster officially has 80 characters (84 counting Mii Fighters and Pokémon Trainer as 6 characters instead of 2), which is a great number for marketing purposes. While 17 characters is the same number of newcomers added to the base game in Sm4sh, it's really 12.5 unique characters (Daisy, Chrom, Isabelle, and Dark Samus are echoes and Dixie is a Semi-Clone), which is lower than both Brawl and Sm4sh.
King K. Rool: I think it's safe to assume that K. Rool performed well in the ballot. Not just in the West like Ridley, but overall. Sakurai is definitely aware of the demand, seeing that K. Rool recieved a Mii Costume. I don't imagine that Sakurai couldn't come up with a moveset for him, as his problem with Ridley wasn't size, but conveying his vicious fighting style and being true to his character. It's definitely possible to make K. Rool true to his zany self. If we don't see K. Rool, then we'll see Dixie as a consolation of sorts.
Geno: Again, Geno likely performed decently in the ballot, moreso in the West. However, Geno's been a long time coming with his potential inclusion being a thing since Brawl. Sakurai likely already has a moveset prepared and only needed Square Enix's approval. He's already got them at the negotiations table, and he's already negotiated to use Geno as a mii costume, so I think next he's going to negotiate for Geno as a character.
Ashley: She's Japan's Ridley. Sakurai has commented on her popularity, acknowledging it with a Mii costume, and she'd be the "Little Mac" of this game. She balances out both Ridley and the Little Mac trend by being a predominantly Japanese pick. She'd bring a full mage moveset to the game, so she'd have a unique moveset too.
Bandana Waddle Dee: A moderately popular character overall who also has the perk of relevance in the Kirby series. A little bit of Sakubias could carry him as well. He fights with a Spear, which is also new to Smash Bros. in terms of movesets.
Lloyd/a Namco Rep: Lloyd is my bias, but I see us getting either Lloyd or Heihachi/a Tekken representative. Both are popular, having received Mii Costumes, represent prominent game series (Tales of being one of the "big three JRPGs" and Tekken being one of the big fighting games), and could bring new movesets to Smash (Lloyd with dual wielding swords and Heihachi with a Tekken based moveset). I think it comes down to two factors: who's more popular and who Sakurai can come up with a moveset for. Hell, we might get both at once, or (my guess) the other as DLC. If Lloyd is made into DLC, there's the possibility he becomes Yuri Lowell due to Tales of Vesperia's popularity and the upcoming definitive edition. However, looking back at what Sakurai said about Heihachi, I don't think we'll be seeing him in this game. When asked about Heihachi, Sakurai said "However, implementing Heihachi’s movement in Smash would be difficult." I think what's significant here is that he's not citing lack of a moveset, but difficulty of implementing the movement of Tekken, which is a 3D fighter. The 3D aspect is important to the series, and I don't think Sakurai and his team are going to be able to emulate to a point they'll be satisfied. Instead, Lloyd presents himself as a 2D fighter (no free run in Tales of Symphonia) with an already viable moveset (dual wielding swords) and louder fan demand than Heihachi. If we get another Namco rep, it's likely going to be Lloyd. We could also get Heihachi alongside Lloyd or as DLC though.
Simon Belmont: Not just due to Vergeben, but also because he's a popular third party pick. I think Simon Belmont would still be a popular character in fan speculation without Vergeben as he and his series are iconic. A whip moveset could also open up a lot of possibilities. I legitimately think that if Simon gets in Konami had something to do with it. There are a couple of leaks that state that Konami specifically requested Simon, or even held Snake hostage and forced Simon in for Sakurai and his team to use Snake, and knowing Konami nowadays it sounds plausible. Castlevania has also been seeing a recent push from Konami in the form of the Netflix series, which has a second season coming out this October. The show's been in development for 10 years, and was likely picking up steam behind the scenes when Sakurai approached Konami to use Snake. Dude's also iconic, and is really the last true classic third party we need in my opinion. Plus, dude also showed up in a fighting game with Snake and Bomberman, so I feel like we'll be seeing him in some form.
Chorus Men: A scrapped idea from Smash 4 (evidenced by Gematsu) that Sakurai can now add due to no technical limitations holding him back. A moveset is prepped, assets from Smash 4 development likely already exist (Smash Ultimate is built from Smash 4), and there's nothing stopping them this time.
Chibi-Robo: He's our WTF character, but he's also a Nintendo icon in his own right. His series has been around and kicking since the Gamecube Era, with him appearing on every console minus the Wii U in one form or another. In 2015 he also had relevance, with Chibi Robo Zip-Lash coming out then.
Dark Samus: An echo that's easy to make and promotes the upcoming Metroid Prime 4. Also adds some much needed Metroid representation.
Chrom: He's the perfect echo in my eyes. Sakurai has said he'd be too similar to Marth and Ike, he's made fun of for being too similar in a Palutena's guidance conversation, and Ike's moveset practically fits 1:1 on Chrom. And Sakurai gets to avoid Fire Emblem controversy as he takes little to no development time because he's an echo and he gets to please Fire Emblem fans who've been waiting for Chrom since the last game. Celica as a Robin echo is an honorable mention.
Isabelle: A popular character (she's practically the face of Animal Crossing) that's easy to add and appease fans. It's perfect.
Dixie Kong: A popular, relevant Donkey Kong character who was originally planned to be in Brawl. I imagine her being a semi-clone of Diddy Kong (or maybe an echo), which makes her easier to implement as a character.
Incineroar: I think he's the most likely Pokémon newcomer given that he could bring a unique fighting style to Smash, being that of a grappler/wrestler. That fighting style is classic, and I think Sakurai would want to represent that in Smash Bros. through Incineroar.
Erdrick: One of the leaks today I read really got to me when it said that the Japanese weren't as hyped about Smash 4 as Americans were with picks like Little Mac. I think that makes perfect sense. Characters like Little Mac and now Ridley cater primarily to American fans. Case in point: Little to no one played Ridley in the open tournament tonight compared to characters like Ike, Ness, and Inkling. I feel like this "Ultimate/Special" version of Smash Bros. is meant to cater to both western and eastern fans equally. Characters like Ridley and Geno are largely western picks, whereas characters like Ashley and Erdrick are largely eastern picks. Of course, there is overlap in terms of western/eastern appeal with all of these characters, but certain characters cater more towards certain demographics this time around. Plus, Sakurai might as well take all the Square Enix characters he can while he has them at the table, right?
 
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So, I'll be honest here, since Sakurai stated that we won't expect a hefty amount of newcomers, I could "possibly" see 5 newcomers at best; 3 are Newcomers, and 2 are Echoes; if that's the case, what are the 5 characters that ya'll would like to see in Ultimate
While I think people are expecting too much, 3 newcomers just sounds sad. Regardless:

Want (realistic): Ashley, Lloyd, Geno, Octoling (Echo), Jeanne (Echo)

Expect: Simon (leak), Banana Weedle Doo (amiibo support), King K Rool (popularity), Shadow (Echo - Knuckles AT replacement), Dark Samus (Echo - just cuz of the missing palette swap)
 

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I got warned on Gamefaqs for making a topic titled "Corrin is more iconic than K Rool"

Am I wrong? Am I right? What do you guys think?
Corrin is certainly more relevant, but neither are really iconic; if "Iconic" means "Household name".
 
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I got warned on Gamefaqs for making a topic titled "Corrin is more iconic than K Rool"

Am I wrong? Am I right? What do you guys think?
I think you need another warning.
****ing disgusting avatar
 

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Crash in the base roster is unlikely. I definitely see him as a DLC character, but not the base game.

I stand firmly by my roster prediction, give or take 2-3 characters.
I'm largely working under the same assumptions that not too many newcomers is a half-truth, the ballot is being used, and Mii Costumes were a concession.

The roster officially has 80 characters (84 counting Mii Fighters and Pokémon Trainer as 6 characters instead of 2), which is a great number for marketing purposes. While 17 characters is the same number of newcomers added to the base game in Sm4sh, it's really 12.5 unique characters (Daisy, Chrom, Isabelle, and Dark Samus are echoes and Dixie is a Semi-Clone), which is lower than both Brawl and Sm4sh.
King K. Rool: I think it's safe to assume that K. Rool performed well in the ballot. Not just in the West like Ridley, but overall. Sakurai is definitely aware of the demand, seeing that K. Rool recieved a Mii Costume. I don't imagine that Sakurai couldn't come up with a moveset for him, as his problem with Ridley wasn't size, but conveying his vicious fighting style and being true to his character. It's definitely possible to make K. Rool true to his zany self. If we don't see K. Rool, then we'll see Dixie as a consolation of sorts.
Geno: Again, Geno likely performed decently in the ballot, moreso in the West. However, Geno's been a long time coming with his potential inclusion being a thing since Brawl. Sakurai likely already has a moveset prepared and only needed Square Enix's approval. He's already got them at the negotiations table, and he's already negotiated to use Geno as a mii costume, so I think next he's going to negotiate for Geno as a character.
Ashley: She's Japan's Ridley. Sakurai has commented on her popularity, acknowledging it with a Mii costume, and she'd be the "Little Mac" of this game. She balances out both Ridley and the Little Mac trend by being a predominantly Japanese pick. She'd bring a full mage moveset to the game, so she'd have a unique moveset too.
Bandana Waddle Dee: A moderately popular character overall who also has the perk of relevance in the Kirby series. A little bit of Sakubias could carry him as well. He fights with a Spear, which is also new to Smash Bros. in terms of movesets.
Lloyd/a Namco Rep: Lloyd is my bias, but I see us getting either Lloyd or Heihachi/a Tekken representative. Both are popular, having received Mii Costumes, represent prominent game series (Tales of being one of the "big three JRPGs" and Tekken being one of the big fighting games), and could bring new movesets to Smash (Lloyd with dual wielding swords and Heihachi with a Tekken based moveset). I think it comes down to two factors: who's more popular and who Sakurai can come up with a moveset for. Hell, we might get both at once, or (my guess) the other as DLC. If Lloyd is made into DLC, there's the possibility he becomes Yuri Lowell due to Tales of Vesperia's popularity and the upcoming definitive edition. However, looking back at what Sakurai said about Heihachi, I don't think we'll be seeing him in this game. When asked about Heihachi, Sakurai said "However, implementing Heihachi’s movement in Smash would be difficult." I think what's significant here is that he's not citing lack of a moveset, but difficulty of implementing the movement of Tekken, which is a 3D fighter. The 3D aspect is important to the series, and I don't think Sakurai and his team are going to be able to emulate to a point they'll be satisfied. Instead, Lloyd presents himself as a 2D fighter (no free run in Tales of Symphonia) with an already viable moveset (dual wielding swords) and louder fan demand than Heihachi. If we get another Namco rep, it's likely going to be Lloyd. We could also get Heihachi alongside Lloyd or as DLC though.
Simon Belmont: Not just due to Vergeben, but also because he's a popular third party pick. I think Simon Belmont would still be a popular character in fan speculation without Vergeben as he and his series are iconic. A whip moveset could also open up a lot of possibilities. I legitimately think that if Simon gets in Konami had something to do with it. There are a couple of leaks that state that Konami specifically requested Simon, or even held Snake hostage and forced Simon in for Sakurai and his team to use Snake, and knowing Konami nowadays it sounds plausible. Castlevania has also been seeing a recent push from Konami in the form of the Netflix series, which has a second season coming out this October. The show's been in development for 10 years, and was likely picking up steam behind the scenes when Sakurai approached Konami to use Snake. Dude's also iconic, and is really the last true classic third party we need in my opinion. Plus, dude also showed up in a fighting game with Snake and Bomberman, so I feel like we'll be seeing him in some form.
Chorus Men: A scrapped idea from Smash 4 (evidenced by Gematsu) that Sakurai can now add due to no technical limitations holding him back. A moveset is prepped, assets from Smash 4 development likely already exist (Smash Ultimate is built from Smash 4), and there's nothing stopping them this time.
Chibi-Robo: He's our WTF character, but he's also a Nintendo icon in his own right. His series has been around and kicking since the Gamecube Era, with him appearing on every console minus the Wii U in one form or another. In 2015 he also had relevance, with Chibi Robo Zip-Lash coming out then.
Dark Samus: An echo that's easy to make and promotes the upcoming Metroid Prime 4. Also adds some much needed Metroid representation.
Chrom: He's the perfect echo in my eyes. Sakurai has said he'd be too similar to Marth and Ike, he's made fun of for being too similar in a Palutena's guidance conversation, and Ike's moveset practically fits 1:1 on Chrom. And Sakurai gets to avoid Fire Emblem controversy as he takes little to no development time because he's an echo and he gets to please Fire Emblem fans who've been waiting for Chrom since the last game. Celica as a Robin echo is an honorable mention.
Isabelle: A popular character (she's practically the face of Animal Crossing) that's easy to add and appease fans. It's perfect.
Dixie Kong: A popular, relevant Donkey Kong character who was originally planned to be in Brawl. I imagine her being a semi-clone of Diddy Kong (or maybe an echo), which makes her easier to implement as a character.
Incineroar: I think he's the most likely Pokémon newcomer given that he could bring a unique fighting style to Smash, being that of a grappler/wrestler. That fighting style is classic, and I think Sakurai would want to represent that in Smash Bros. through Incineroar.
Erdrick: One of the leaks today I read really got to me when it said that the Japanese weren't as hyped about Smash 4 as Americans were with picks like Little Mac. I think that makes perfect sense. Characters like Little Mac and now Ridley cater primarily to American fans. Case in point: Little to no one played Ridley in the open tournament tonight compared to characters like Ike, Ness, and Inkling. I feel like this "Ultimate/Special" version of Smash Bros. is meant to cater to both western and eastern fans equally. Characters like Ridley and Geno are largely western picks, whereas characters like Ashley and Erdrick are largely eastern picks. Of course, there is overlap in terms of western/eastern appeal with all of these characters, but certain characters cater more towards certain demographics this time around. Plus, Sakurai might as well take all the Square Enix characters he can while he has them at the table, right?

Having the 3 big JRPGS in the same game duking it out would be the perfect dream match for me. And Ultimate is more or less the best chance of that happening. I honestly hope a crossover game like that happens eventually.
 

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I’m honestly still not sold on Simon’s old NES design based off the Castlevania box art, honestly I’m content with having Chronicles Simon because I feel I can take Ayane Kojima’s take on the character much more seriously than the other design which just looks like a standard barbarian with no real defining traits.

It doesn’t appeal to me, and that’s okay for those it appeals to, it’s just really not my cup of tea.
 

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I got warned on Gamefaqs for making a topic titled "Corrin is more iconic than K Rool"

Am I wrong? Am I right? What do you guys think?
...Sorry, what? I'm too busy staring at your Ridley-dwarfing Dixie avatar and wishing I had the ability to unsee things.
 
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