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I'm pretty sure it is codeveloping, but I don't expect a Soul Calibur character. Despite how awesome Ivy's whip moveset would be, or how iconic to the franchise Nightmare is (Siegfried alt, pls). Soul Calibur's been in a rut lately, and we don't know if SCVI is going to pull it out. Beyond that, even Namco seems to favor their modern franchise Tekken, so I'd expect Heihachi before Nightmare.
Yeah I’m real confused on that too, as interesting as this is that part is real sketchy. Could mean he works under Sora technically since Sakurai is one of the founders I guess.
I agree. I played SMRPG when I was a kid, and even though he wasn't my favorite, I can see why Geno has an appeal. That being said, the Mario series is rolling right along, and it left Geno back in 1996. Both old and new recurring characters continue to make appearances in a gazillion Mario spin-offs, while Geno fails to even make it in games where Nintendo partners up with Square Enix (Hoops 3-on-3, Fortune Street, Sports Mix). Even with obvious fan demand for the character, Nintendo has made a bare minimum effort to push Geno (if they even tried pushing him at all) in the past two decades. It's sad to say that getting a costume in Smash was the highlight for Geno over the course of 15 years.
Nintendo ≠ Sakurai
I made sure to mention that I literally only said it because I personally want it to happen.
The mii costume honestly just seemed like a way to throw the fans a bone with minimal effort but I'd honestly be very surprised if they ended up making him a full on character. He has moderate popularity but that's dwindled more and more as time goes on, I don't think he would've done all that well in the ballot tbh, sakurai has acknowledged his popularity before but that was brawl days popularity and not recent results via the ballot. As it stands there's not much reason to add geno when more relevant mario character options exist with captain toad and paper mario.
I've always just interpreted that costume as "I wanted him to be a character but we got Squeenix approval too late and there isn't time, so take this" or something. He did mention the fact that he wanted him in Sm4sh (or... "as far back as Brawl", not like that implies that he ever stopped) when he was talking about the inclusion of the costume.
Yeah I'm doubtful he was ever even considered for smash 4, now that cloud's in here it's more possible for ultimate but I don't think they would've added both to smash 4
The more detail you put in, the more real the leak becomes, obviously!
If Namco gets a second rep in the form of a fighting game character, it would probably be from Tekken...though Ivy in Smash wouldn’t be a problem
Ashley’s giving me like major Homura Akemi vibes here and I’m not complaining
She probably said something different in the Japanese text that couldn't really be worked into the translation.
Ashley: "Hungry is different from the others. It's so powerful it doesn't need to hide in a labyrinth. And when it appears, thousands of people are going to die. Just like that. Since ordinary humans can't see it, they'll think the destruction was caused by an earthquake, tornado, or other disaster."
The real kicker would been if leak said Cross was the one that cause her to become an assist trophy, I wouldn't have been able to read anything else, I'd be too busy dying with laughter,>that new leak
I can’t even be in despair that Elma’s an AT, the whole “considered” thing is making me laugh
No offense but "Smash 4" rules are here since day one. Retro character concept introduced in Melee and aside from them, pretty much every newcomer is from a recent game.
Certain characters would make me reconsider the game, not guarantee I won't buy it. Only guaranteed way I would not buy it is if 4th Party characters made it in. Because then Smash would be going down road I will not follow.
First off, I wouldn't say I'm 'super hyped' for the game. Sure, I'm very happy Wolf is back, but one character isn't enough for me to ignore everything else and just buy the game. Smash 4 left a sour taste for me, due to many factors. There's several things that can happen with Smash Ultimate that would turn me away from the game. Best way I can put it is like this:
You're missing the obvious answer: the leaker is Sakurai's wife!
Little Mac and Pit were also pretty popular in their own. Probably not as Geno, but still, I like this idea.
I'll admit, I'd be severely disappointed if Sakurai follows his old trends from Smash 4 and adds a bunch of third-parties and characters from relatively niche franchises that I have no connection with. I know others feel differently, but that's what I personally would consider disappointing.
Here's the thing. K. Rool has made notable appearances in DS and Wii games, whereas the only notable role Geno has ever had was in a SNES game.
I don't know who waifus are but they must be nice ladies if Pit saved them by banishing forces of evil.
You know you don't have to play as the characters you dislike, right? It's inevitable to have a roster of 60+ characters of which there are a few a person doesn't like.
This^
Your argument was literally invalidated in my post that you quoted. "Retro reps" do not work that way, especially since the Excitebiker was considered as an NES-era representative despite a recent upcoming game at the time.
One major flaw though - Ashley needs her equivalent of Madoka to even fit close enough to Homura in general.
That's actually a good point! After Melee most retro pics were popualr characters (retro pics, not the historical pics like ROB and Duck Hunt).
Could you clarify "by that logic". Where the smash community draws the line for retro pick is always interesting to me.
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That's the second time i heard someone say she sounds like Mandy...Who the hecks Mandy. xDOne major flaw though - Ashley needs her equivalent of Madoka to even fit close enough to Homura in general.
Also I can't imagine Ashley in a Moemura-esque phase before becoming the kind of girl she is today.
Then again, I more saw Mandy from Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy on Ashley if anything.
