Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[ReeseBalaski]

Speaking of people with new tricks:

So it seems like in Ultimate, Ness's Dsmash has been changed that the YoYo will fall off the edge and hang by the ledge if Ness is close enough #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/qXNpQe0JCp

— Dax (@SB_Dax) July 10, 2018

my boy

So we're back to before Smash 4 in regards to how Ness charges his down smash, and presumably his up smash as well. A good tool to guard the ledge directly while charging. And with charge time for Smash attacks becoming much longer, there's a bit more benefit to using the move that way.

Yeah, Ness looks as awesome as ever.

 

[Schnee117]

You can look up Hawkeye or Brawlhalla’s bows

See also: Green Arrow (Injustice), Kung Jin (Mortal Kombat) and to a lesser extent, Yukari Takeba (Persona 4 Arena Ultimax) and Eagle (Killer Instinct).

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

No one is saying people are not allowed to not like things, it's just gonna start arguments that really didn't need to happen.

That's really that person's fault for letting it get to them.

Perfect example, Mimikyu is my number one desired now that I got Ridley. I'll defend Mimikyu's chances and explain to people why it would be a good choice. However I know @Lampy dislikes Mimikyu (and that's definitely putting it lightly). I'd like to think that we never start arguements over it, I just understand he does not want Mimikyu in the game.

Basically it's a game and people should not get upset that someone else doesn't want their character.

 

[Cosmic77]

Skull Kid, possibly, but none really have a lot of a chance. Impa’d make a good Sheik echo as well.

I’d love Urbosa, but I can’t see them only taking one champion since all four are equally important. Plus, even the devs have different favorites. Either make all four, or none (or Urbosa - I’m hypocritical enough to be okay with that). I’d be really salty if they only picked one and left the others with nothing, particularly one without a good characterization or who just gets in on “muh moveset” or “muh recency”

I have to ask, why would it upset you if only one Champion got in as a playable character? All four of them have equal importance, and all four have moveset potential that would make for some pretty unique characters. I don't care that much for Urbosa, but I wouldn't want Mipha holding her back just because the Champions are always seen as some type of bundled four-pack. Urbosa by herself would be a pretty cool addition.

For me, this feels similar to leaving out Decidueye because it wouldn't be fair to Incineroar and Primarina. I obviously have a preference with starter Pokémon and Champions, but if Sakurai thinks one is more unique than the others, I say he should go for it.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Pit was supposed to be one. That's how I pictured him pre-Brawl. But then Sakurai had him split his bow into two smaller blades.

Then Daddy Sakurai took Pit even further by giving him an arsenal of weapons to use (both in Smash and his own series)...I guess Sakurai doesn’t want a unique archer

You can look up Hawkeye or Brawlhalla’s bows

Hawkeye then decided to use more than a bow after some time

For unique? Skull Kid. He's a bit more than a one-off AND he's stood the test of time and become somewhat iconic AND his remake was right around the time of the project plan. If we get a Zelda newcomer I'd bet on him.

Hands down Impa. Makes too much sense as a Shiek echo.

She's one of the three newcomers I have full confidence in (Dixie and Bandana Dee are the others).

Are you guys sure y’all wouldn’t want Linkle instead...

 

[Demonfunds]

That's really that person's fault for letting it get to them.

Perfect example, Mimikyu is my number one desired now that I got Ridley. I'll defend Mimikyu's chances and explain to people why it would be a good choice. However I know @Lampy dislikes Mimikyu (and that's definitely putting it lightly). I'd like to think that we never start arguements over it, I just understand he does not want Mimikyu in the game.

Basically it's a game and people should not get upset that someone else doesn't want their character.

You know what, fair enough, you're right.

 

[Bowserlick]

Beedle is the kind of character that if he got in, people would exclaim how he was a shoe-in, easily guessable (while at the same time not guessing him) because he's been a long time staple of the series, in the latest game, ect., ect.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

These are your new fighters:

1. K. Rool
2. Dixie Kong
3. Elma
4. Buzzwole or Decidueye
5. Mach Rider
6. Chorus Kids
7. Beedle
8. Geno
9. Belmont

Your welcome.

I see what's happening, yeah. I'm face-to-face with greatness and it's strange.

 

[Idon]

Beedle is the kind of character that if he got in, people would exclaim how he was a shoe-in, easily guessable (while at the same time not guessing him) because he's been a long time staple of the series, in the latest game, ect., ect.

Yeah the issue is HE'S A FLIPPING SHOPKEEPER.

 

[SlickWylde]

Since everyone else is doing it:

I'm sure this is going to be unpopular, but I don't want Shovel Knight.
Also, I just realized that almost all of my "dreamlist" characters are already in Smash. That's awesome!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah the issue is HE'S A FLIPPING SHOPKEEPER.

Hey man, I work in a store too, do you know how incredibly satisfying it is to wreck a supermarket in Yakuza? Cause imagine being a shopkeeper and beating the **** out of people after dealing with ****ty customers all day, it would be so goddamn cathartic

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

You know what, fair enough, you're right.

And I will also say that is has to be fair on the other person's side, for example Lampy (I won't tag you twice to annoy you lol) hardly goes out of his way to bully Mimikyu fans or is ever really rude about not wanting it in the game.

So really as long as no one is a jerk we should be good!....But it is the internet XD

Edit: Also how the heck did we get started on Beedle?! I mean...sure??? I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be salty he got in instead of a Champion/any other great Zelda character.

 

[KMDP]

Yeah the issue is HE'S A FLIPPING SHOPKEEPER.

Doesn't stop people wanting Tom Nook/Isabelle, really. (A Real Estate Agent and a Secretary).

 

[Murlough]

I like how people talked about verlisify while forgetting to mention he defends nazis as seen with his tweets about Charlotesville.


Also Skull Kid would be neat

Who follows Verlisify though?

I probably would have mentioned that but thankfully I value my sanity enough to avoid people like him on twitter.

These are your new fighters:

1. K. Rool
2. Dixie Kong
3. Elma
4. Buzzwole or Decidueye
5. Mach Rider
6. Chorus Kids
7. Beedle
8. Geno
9. Belmont

Your welcome.

1. Neat.
2. Ok.
3. Lets go!
4. Why hath Sakurai forsaken me.
5. Ok.
6. Ok.
7. Who?
8. Neat.
9. Depends on design and moveset.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Awaiting new info...or Viridi in Smash

 

[Bowserlick]

Yeah the issue is HE'S A FLIPPING SHOPKEEPER.

A flipping plumber is the face of the series.

 

[MysticKnives]

So we're back to before Smash 4 in regards to how Ness charges his down smash, and presumably his up smash as well. A good tool to guard the ledge directly while charging. And with charge time for Smash attacks becoming much longer, there's a bit more benefit to using the move that way.

Yeah, Ness looks as awesome as ever.

The fact you can charge smash attacks even longer now is no doubt on some random occasion catch some people off guard.

 

[KMDP]

A flipping plumber is the face of the series.

A Plumber who regularly goes on Princess-saving adventures; who can smash bricks with his fists and throw fireballs, and in some rare cases, fly.

 

[PeridotGX]

Here's my Ultimate chart thing

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, who brought up Verlisify again?

Comparing him to Midnight Lycanroc was already a travesty.

Guilty as charged.
They look alike and I needed to say something negative about it, don't @ me.

 

[Bowserlick]

A Plumber who regularly goes on Princess-saving adventures; who can smash bricks with his fists and throw fireballs, and in some rare cases, fly.

All plumbers can do that. Part of the job.

 

[wildvine47]

Looks like this template is going around, so lemme throw mine into the ring. Rate and hate, boys.

 

[kamus_aran]

There's something Smash related will be shown in 5 days. I hope there will be something new. Sorry if i'm late, lol

 

[Deleted member]

There's something Smash related will be shown in 5 days. I hope there will be something new. Sorry if i'm late, lol

We went over it several times.
It's just a competition they're livestreaming, probably no news.

 

[Schnee117]

Guilty as charged.
They look alike and I needed to say something negative about it, don't @ me.

Just call it ****ty Sabrewulf.

 

[Hidan]

So...

Proud to show you my own "SSBU player card", following the model made by @NintenZ here: https://t.co/WC3lf9f4TD pic.twitter.com/hZGgLvxmzD

— Pre-order Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (@FinalSmashGamer) July 10, 2018

...I made my own version of this.

Wow this took me way too long.

Spoiler

EDIT: Honorable mention to Giygas for newcomer, how oh how could I forget you.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

These are your new fighters:

1. K. Rool
2. Dixie Kong
3. Elma
4. Buzzwole or Decidueye
5. Mach Rider
6. Chorus Kids
7. Beedle
8. Geno
9. Belmont

Your welcome.

1. Eh, why not.
2. Sure.
3. HECKIN’ YAAAAAAAAASSSSS!!!!
4. Meh
5. Oh please no
6. Sure, a rhythm based fighter seems neat
7. Who?
8. Meh
9. Yessssss!

 

[Jibblypuff_]

Did you guys see this?

Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...the-echo-chamber.52040/page-288#post-10239096

By the way, Ryce leaked the Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite roster. I think he knew Ultimate info as well.

 

[Pyra]

Yeah the issue is HE'S A FLIPPING SHOPKEEPER.

That only makes me suddenly want to play him whereas before I didn't get any thought.

Capsbold tends to do that to me though.

 

[ChocolatGelgato]

I am mostly ambivlent on zelda as a whole but I'd love to see classic ganon or Vaati in. I don't really play shiek so im not too hyped for a shiek-style character like Impa again.

 

[Deleted member]

These are your new fighters:

1. K. Rool
2. Dixie Kong
3. Elma
4. Buzzwole or Decidueye
5. Mach Rider
6. Chorus Kids
7. Beedle
8. Geno
9. Belmont

Your welcome.

1. "Oh, cool!"
2. "Meh, whatever."
3. "Pretty cool I guess."
4. Buzzwole: "Eh, at least it's not Mimikyu or Lycanroc."
   Decidueye: "**** YEAH!!!!"
5. "Meh."
6. "Neat, I guess."
7. 
8. "Bleh..."
9. "Eh, pretty cool."

 

[Inawordyes]

So I saw many moons (aka pages) ago that people were talking about trying to find new topics to discuss so we don't keep coming back to the same points over and over and over and over and over again.

So here's something I haven't seen anybody talk about: Blaziken as a Falcon Echo.

Considering it's vast popularity but also vast similarity to the Captain, and with Ganondorf being further decloned, do you think that Blaziken could pull a Daisy and finally get it's day in Smash?

 

[Pyra]

These are your new fighters:

1. K. Rool
2. Dixie Kong
3. Elma
4. Buzzwole or Decidueye
5. Mach Rider
6. Chorus Kids
7. Beedle
8. Geno
9. Belmont

Your welcome.

1. Hope it's how he looked before, the Mii costume does bode well for that.
2. Okay.
3. I haven't played that game.
4. I have said it before, but Buzzwole better play like Fishbunjin.
5. Okay.
6. Excellent.
7. I usually like the character reveals that cause a weird schism in the playerbase, this would probably one of them.
8. [M. Bison saying YES!]
9. Cool

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

Oh, I did that thingy like a week ago. Here it is:

I know y'all are nosey, so her's my ugly photoshopped pic for the fad. #SmashBros pic.twitter.com/a9D4OifsFB

— Tyler Sanchez 👽🔭🪐 (@PlayerOneTyler) July 3, 2018

 

[kylexv]

Did you guys see this?

Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...the-echo-chamber.52040/page-288#post-10239096

By the way, Ryce leaked the Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite roster. I think he knew Ultimate info as well.

Despite how far we think we have come, we can never truly escape Gematsu and Sal Romano.
Still taking this with a grain of salt despite Sal having some credibility.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Makes sense, how can you fight with a regular bow?

EDIT: No, really, how? Can a "pure archer" fan explain?

Like this:

 

[Pyra]

If I was honest about my least wanted newcomers on mine, it'd probably have been Rabbids / Steve from Minecraft instead of Shrekarot

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Of the common top 10 most often leaked characters (Geno, Ashley, Simon, Bandana Waddle Dee, K. Rool, Dixie, Elma, Isabelle, Shadow, and Decidueye) which do you want the MOST?

For me, it’s quite obviously Elma, I will literally cry tears of joy if she’s in hdoeibdidjdh

I’d also like Bandana Waddle Dee and Simon, but I’m sure they’ll be in anyway.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Of the common top 10 most often leaked characters (Geno, Ashley, Simon, Bandana Waddle Dee, K. Rool, Dixie, Elma, Isabelle, Shadow, and Decidueye) which do you want the MOST?

For me, it’s quite obviously Elma, I will literally cry tears of joy if she’s in hdoeibdidjdh

I’d also like Bandana Waddle Dee and Simon, but I’m sure they’ll be in anyway.

I'm split between Dixie and Elma, both are my most wanted

 

[Schnee117]

pic.twitter.com/S1gkUuhJet

— Orie Branwen (@OrieBranwen) July 10, 2018

Made my peace that Rex and Pyra are probably gonna happen at some point because of DLC and that all my most wanted have no chance except maybe Red.