Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Murlough]

I think it's mostly the pros who are giving us footage are just trying to see if they still like their old mains if they're in the demo more than not wanting to use Ridley.

That and trying to test the new game mechanics and such with characters they are already familiar with.

 

[Deleted member]

That was not what I said.

>Peace
>Smash fandom
Pick one.

Smash 4 got two new whatever game pits from Representatives and those two are literally the most likely to go

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Well, that makes sense.

I have to wonder why FEW in particular has so many clone characters when the last Warriors games like Warriors All-Stars, Berserk, and HW had less of them.

To be fair, FE doesn't have too many animations to draw from, which is becoming less of a thing over time of course (or they wanted to do the whole each class has similar animations but different stats which I was against although I didn't think I voiced that in my Editor articles on Serenes it was more on the mechanical improvements and how FE mechanics work super well with the Warriors Formula), and while there were quite a number of clones in FEW I found all of the movesets fun as opposed to HW where only around 30 to 40% of them at all are fun to me anyways.

Berserk has barely any cast, All-Stars could resource reuse to focus more on the uniques.

Meanwhile i've been far too spoiled by Orochi 3, Dynasty Warriors 8XL and Samurai Warriors 4-II having so many unique movesets, but despite this I think FEW and HW are two of the most mechanically solid Warriors games and certain keep a faster pace, even if I think the 3 I just mentioned above are overall more polished due to enemies actually having threatening moves and being able to block specials among having like 50 to 90 uniques.

 

[Idon]

We've been discussing characters with decently sized fanbases to appeal to, but I have to wonder what's the most realistic character choice that would generate the most outrage within the Smash community. My bet's on Minecraft's Steve.

 

[Opossum]

We've been discussing characters with decently sized fanbases to appeal to, but I have to wonder what's the most realistic character choice that would generate the most outrage within the Smash community. My bet's on Minecraft's Steve.

Steve or Rabbids, probably.

 

[Deleted member]

We've been discussing characters with decently sized fanbases to appeal to, but I have to wonder what's the most realistic character choice that would generate the most outrage within the Smash community. My bet's on Minecraft's Steve.

I wouldn't be outraged but I'm the person that would be excited for Dora the Explorer which is technically still on the table she has her own games on a Nintendo console multiple actually so she hit the same criteria that Megaman and Sonic hit

 

[Icedragonadam]

So is there more confirmed character changes at CEO or is the demo at CEO the exact same one from E3?

 

[Metal Shop X]

I wouldn't be outraged but I'm the person that would be excited for Dora the Explorer which is technically still on the table she has her own games on a Nintendo console multiple actually so she hit the same criteria that Megaman and Sonic hit

Dora didn't come from a video game.

Doesn't matter how many games she have, she is out of the table like Goku & Shrek.

 

[Pakky]

I wouldn't be outraged but I'm the person that would be excited for Dora the Explorer which is technically still on the table she has her own games on a Nintendo console multiple actually so she hit the same criteria that Megaman and Sonic hit

She's not a video game character so, no she nowhere near Smash.

Agumon for example would work because he is a video game character

 

[Cosmic77]

Since it was brought up, how likely is it for us to get two new DK characters? I know we're trying to avoid conflict by creating scenarios where both Dixie and K. Rool get in, but I'm not convinced we'd be lucky enough to get two reps.

Assuming we're even lucky enough to get a DK character (because despite how people are acting, there's still the possibility we don't get anyone), I feel like we'd only get one or the other. Only so many characters can get in; Sakurai might want to spend development time on a rep for a different franchise instead of doubling down on DK.

 

[Troykv]

Well, that makes sense.

I have to wonder why FEW in particular has so many clone characters when the last Warriors games like Warriors All-Stars, Berserk, and HW had less of them.

Maybe the game is low budget? xDU

 

[Deleted member]

Dora didn't come from a video game.

Doesn't matter how many games she have, she is out of the table like Goku & Shrek.

Pikachu first existed in the anime

 

[osby]

Since it was brought up, how likely is it for us to get two new DK characters? I know we're trying to avoid conflict by creating scenarios where both Dixie and K. Rool get in, but I'm not convinced we'd be lucky enough to get two reps.

Assuming we're even lucky enough to get a DK character (because despite how people are acting, there's still the possibility we don't get anyone), I feel like we'd only get one or the other. Only so many characters can get in; Sakurai might want to spend development time on a rep for a different franchise instead of doubling down on DK.

Definition of luck changes. I'll considered myself really lucky if we get only Dixie Kong and Cranky Kong if two DK character is going to be in.
Which doesn't seem likely, unless Dixie Kong is a last minute addition like Wolf.

 

[Pakky]

Pikachu first existed in the anime

You can't think that's true.

Not being mean but you can't think that.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Pikachu first existed in the anime

Uh, what?

No, Pikachu first apparear in Pokemon Red & Green in Japan, which came in 1996, while the Pokemon anime came in 1997.

 

[GunBlaze]

Pikachu first existed in the anime

BOI

 

[Darkraid]

Since it was brought up, how likely is it for us to get two new DK characters? I know we're trying to avoid conflict by creating scenarios where both Dixie and K. Rool get in, but I'm not convinced we'd be lucky enough to get two reps.

Assuming we're even lucky enough to get a DK character (because despite how people are acting, there's still the possibility we don't get anyone), I feel like we'd only get one or the other. Only so many characters can get in; Sakurai might want to spend development time on a rep for a different franchise instead of doubling down on DK.

Likely if Dixie is echo.

 

[Deleted member]

You can't think that's true.

Not being mean but you can't think that.

The first episode of the anime was released in 1997 the games came out in 1998

 

[Metal Shop X]

The first episode of the anime was released in 1997 the games came out in 1998

Please tell me you readed my previous post.

 

[GunBlaze]

The first episode of the anime was released in 1997 the games came out in 1998

BOI, NO. It was in 1996

 

[Deleted member]

Uh, what?

No, Pikachu first apparear in Pokemon Red & Green in Japan, which came in 1996, while the Pokemon anime came in 1997.

Oh right Japan I just really want Dora in smash mainly so I can Pummel her

 

[Idon]

The first episode of the anime was released in 1997 the games came out in 1998

It is a google search away...

 

[Pyra]

Oh right Japan I just really want Dora in smash mainly so I can Pummel her

Avatar checks out

 

[Metal Shop X]

Oh right Japan I just really want Dora in smash mainly so I can Pummel her

Alright, I'm not going to continue from there.

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe even an assist trophy you can ko those now for points

 

[Crooked Crow]

Pikachu first existed in the anime

Somebody should sig this.

 

[Deleted member]

Avatar checks out

I hope you mean in terms of being "edgy" and not making a crack at the Shadow fanbase. :V

 

[Pyra]

Steve or Rabbids, probably.

Steve I can probably handle more than the Rabbids. People who talk to me about Smash know I'm generally accepting of the weird things Sakurai does, but the Rabbids would throw me for a loop. A disgruntled loop.

I hope you mean in terms of being "edgy" and not making a crack at the Shadow fanbase. :V

Well, yeah.
I'll put a footnote next time about me meaning that the character is edgy, haha.

 

[Pakky]

Been thinking about Skull Kid and due to being here I guess he's just as likely.

I mean true he doesn't have a huge amount of appearances however neither does in terms of his character he's basically the same idea as BWD and Captain Toad, an enemy or NPC made into an actual character separate from the rest.

 

[KMDP]

Wrote this on a whim due to general boredom.

Smash has changed.

It's no longer about fandom, relevancy and moveset potential. It's an endless series of Multi-Man Smashes, fought by Third Parties and Figure Players.

Smash--and it's consumption of wallets--has become a well-oiled machine.

Smash has changed.

ID-tagged Players carry ID-tagged Amiibo, use ID-tagged Controllers. Inherent flaws inside the engine enhance and regulate their abilities.

Franchise control, leak control, hype control, battlefield control... Everything is tiered and kept under control.

Smash... has changed.

The age of Party Gaming has become the age of Tier Lists, all in the name of averting catastrophe from the top tier fighters, and he who controls the Tier Lists, controls Tournaments.

Smash... has changed.

When the Battlefields are under total control, Smash becomes Competitive.

 

[Deleted member]

Somebody should sig this.

On it

 

[Pyra]

I mean true he doesn't have a huge amount of appearances however neither does in terms of his character he's basically the same idea as BWD and Captain Toad, an enemy or NPC made into an actual character separate from the rest.

Skull kid actually has more appearances than Sheik, right? He was in both OoT and MM.

Unless I'm totally missing an obscure appearance of either.

I know I didn't respond to your point, but I never thought about that before.

 

[Deleted member]

On it

You just played yourself.

 

[Idon]

Been thinking about Skull Kid and due to being here I guess he's just as likely.

I mean true he doesn't have a huge amount of appearances however neither does in terms of his character he's basically the same idea as BWD and Captain Toad, an enemy or NPC made into an actual character separate from the rest.

Sheik is a product of perfect timing. While she may be in a similar boat to Skully, he's just not as lucky.
Skull Kid's chance slipped with Brawl

 

[Metal Shop X]

Been thinking about Skull Kid and due to being here I guess he's just as likely.

I mean true he doesn't have a huge amount of appearances however neither does in terms of his character he;s basically the same idea as BWD and Captain Toad, and enemy or NPC given made into an actual character separate from the rest.

Heh, he had 3 appareances, OOT, MM & TP. Sure, he have a very minor role in OOT, a somewhat more important but still very minor role in TP, but compared to Sheik, I say Skull Kill had more relevance to the series than Sheik only somewhat major role in OOT. (She also apparear in Hyrule Warrior, but so Skull Kid too later on thanks to Legend)

 

[Deleted member]

You just played yourself.

????

 

[osby]

Been thinking about Skull Kid and due to being here I guess he's just as likely.

I mean true he doesn't have a huge amount of appearances however neither does in terms of his character he's basically the same idea as BWD and Captain Toad, an enemy or NPC made into an actual character separate from the rest.

Tbh Sheik is Zelda.

 

[Pakky]

????

People are being a little rambunctious, don't worry about it.

 

[Deleted member]

Tbh Sheik is Zelda.

But I saw them in the same room together once!

 

[Deleted member]

People are being a little rambunctious, don't worry about it.

I find my own stupidness funny sometimes and that was the most stupid thing I said on this site so it's my signature until I say something stupider